3.8 is the most broken patch we've had for a long time, perhaps if you had tried during 3.7 it might have been a better experience. The patch certainly hasn't helped folks who merely dip their toes in SC infrequently or the new backers...
Star Citizen Discussion Thread v11
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Viajero
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Damn, the flight model is still trash
Hold on, I remember this gem. Just a no clip FPS in 3D. Cool part starts around 0:25 but the whole clip is priceless.
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Yeah I’m not really getting involved in the actual argument
. I haven’t seen enough combat footage to judge re dead stops from speed.There definitely is a ‘no clip’ / inertia-less quality to some ongoing footage in general though. That jump point traversal is just horrible from a ‘stop start’ perspective.
Watched a bit of the German guy’s stream and saw various bizarre fly-bys which seemed to involve dead stops / extreme momentum switches. (Can’t find a great example right now, so have this pilot no-clipping instead
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Wow, they've really captured that London Underground experience down to a T!
Damn, that is just shameful. Are they using the space (hand)brake to pull off those U-turns?
That is over a year old and would not be possible in the current flight model post 3.5.
Viajero
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It is still quite possible. You can see them every day. But hey, look, we have already shown plenty examples, slow speed, fast speed, recent, old. I have the suspicion no matter how many more examples you will just say... "no".
It is still quite possible. You can see them every day. But hey, look, we have already shown plenty examples, slow speed, fast speed, recent, old. I have the suspicion no matter how many more examples you will just say... "no".
lol
Viajero
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Tons of more examples in this stream aswell. But also...
Source: https://clips.twitch.tv/AlertCloudyFrogHotPokket
How.. why... warum indeed! Nevermind.
How.. why... warum indeed! Nevermind.
The 890 Jump mission is getting better then...
Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/ehb31b/lord_vader_has_joined_the_channel_origin_890_jump/?st=k4rki1k2&sh=850c6563
Source: https://old.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/ehb31b/lord_vader_has_joined_the_channel_origin_890_jump/?st=k4rki1k2&sh=850c6563
Definitely doing similar things with any light fighter or even a Hornet... The only ray of hope was the VTOL flight model but that's gone too.
Genuinely sad to hear that. When all is said and done, another decent space game would be very welcome.
This basically sounds like trying to get to work on Northern trains.
Since I've been put off my usual job of trucking cargo by the sheer instability of 3.8, I've been trying my hand back as a miner..and quite enjoying it too. I've been dragging in around 10-30k per run in a Prospector...which is pretty lightweight earnings compared to my usual hauling in a Caterpillar... but it's certainly engaging.
Ci¬G seems to have the balance of challenge and reward about right, you have to cherry pick which materials you mine, which rocks to look for and which fragments of the cracked rock to extract for a higher yield. The main thing is you don't feel like it's a grind when you're doing it, it takes a bit of time and patience, a bit of skill but it's rarely boring. The variety and capabilities of the new mining heads also add a bit of complexity to the mining and temper your choices on what you can mine and what you can't. Like most things, it's a learning curve and gets easier and better with experience (See SaltEMike's vid below)
They've adjusted the RNG spawn rate and yield of the rocks...made some larger and more lucrative deposits that are difficult if not impossible to crack open with standard size 1 mining heads or a single prospector...adding a higher power head makes a bit of difference but some of the bigger rocks with larger mass and/or higher resistance need a multicrewed Mole to crack, or a pair of Prospectors working in tandem. I also noticed that they've massively reduced the amount of inert material with higher % of raw ore per chunk...the inert material sometimes breaks off in separate large pieces too which is nice, leaving the raw extractable ore all packed into one or more smaller pieces.
It's been a refreshing change from the hauling as much as it's not as financially rewarding (as yet), I still feel like it's a good time versus effort mechanic compared to even how it used to be. A definite improvement all round and with the Prospectors now being rentable and buyable in game removing the old hard cash pay wall aspect of mining in SC...it's worth a bash.
Mining techniques and locations...
Ci¬G seems to have the balance of challenge and reward about right, you have to cherry pick which materials you mine, which rocks to look for and which fragments of the cracked rock to extract for a higher yield. The main thing is you don't feel like it's a grind when you're doing it, it takes a bit of time and patience, a bit of skill but it's rarely boring. The variety and capabilities of the new mining heads also add a bit of complexity to the mining and temper your choices on what you can mine and what you can't. Like most things, it's a learning curve and gets easier and better with experience (See SaltEMike's vid below)
They've adjusted the RNG spawn rate and yield of the rocks...made some larger and more lucrative deposits that are difficult if not impossible to crack open with standard size 1 mining heads or a single prospector...adding a higher power head makes a bit of difference but some of the bigger rocks with larger mass and/or higher resistance need a multicrewed Mole to crack, or a pair of Prospectors working in tandem. I also noticed that they've massively reduced the amount of inert material with higher % of raw ore per chunk...the inert material sometimes breaks off in separate large pieces too which is nice, leaving the raw extractable ore all packed into one or more smaller pieces.
It's been a refreshing change from the hauling as much as it's not as financially rewarding (as yet), I still feel like it's a good time versus effort mechanic compared to even how it used to be. A definite improvement all round and with the Prospectors now being rentable and buyable in game removing the old hard cash pay wall aspect of mining in SC...it's worth a bash.
Mining techniques and locations...
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Nobody is ever going to create a game that 'most of us want to play'. Not unless 'us' is a very small subset of the gaming community. Even amongst the subset that is interested in 'space games', there are very differing ideas as to what is wanted. CIG has managed to convince its backers that it is going to deliver exactly what they each want, even when what they want isn't remotely achievable in a single game (ege mods and private servers, in a MMO - this can't work, without fracturing the 'MMO universe' into pieces). As for costs, figures are hard to come by, and it is very difficult to make direct comparisons, but don't think there is much room for doubt that the 'build it in dribs and drabs, trying to keep it working while you make fundamental revisions' method that CIG works to is inefficient and expensive. Whatever they end up with, at best the finished product (if there ever is one) could have been done more quickly and cheaper by conventional means. Except of course that if CIG had been honest about what was achievable, and how long it was going to take, they'd never have raised the funds in the first place.
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