Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

[Factabulous]

They changed the website to show SC as 'Early Access'

So now people can argue it is a pre-alpha / alpha / early access / playable now. Pick your state!

 

[TiberiusDuval]

LOL, Star Citizen isn't a knock off.


Wow, wait, what? I had to check funding tracker and it's still only at an affordable $721mil.

Are those inflation adjusted dollars? You know 2010's dollars were somewhat stronger money than nowadays

 

[TiberiusDuval]

Now factor in Chris' claim of every dollar spent is worth 5x as much as with a traditional publisher and its the first multi-billion dollar alpha.

Well Chris does not say to whom they are 5x as much as worth. I can easily see that to Chris and business companions that may be true. No middlemen taking their own part of loot

 

[Viajero]

They changed the website to show SC as 'Early Access'

So now people can argue it is a pre-alpha / alpha / early access / playable now. Pick your state!

I mean, they already had Early Access signs plastered all over the place at the launcher in game, at most promo video materials etc. That is not really new.

The question is what was stated in that particular page before this change?

 

[Agony_Aunt]

They changed the website to show SC as 'Early Access'

So now people can argue it is a pre-alpha / alpha / early access / playable now. Pick your state!

Funny. Went to: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/star-citizen

Can't see a single mention of early access or alpha.

Just a lot of "Play now"

 

[Viajero]

Btw, we are probably not looking at the same pages, because at the main SC landing pages there is no mention of the early acces or alpha (nevermind crowdfund).

It’s all about “PLAY NOW!”

Star Citizen - Roberts Space Industries | Follow the development of Star Citizen and Squadron 42

Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.

robertsspaceindustries.com

Edit: ninjaed!

 

[cigwatch]

The Bengal for one billion!

฿engal

 

[rootsrat]

Funny. Went to: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/star-citizen

Can't see a single mention of early access or alpha.

Just a lot of "Play now"

Btw, we are probably not looking at the same pages, because at the main SC landing pages there is no mention of the early acces or alpha (nevermind crowdfund).

It’s all about “PLAY NOW!”

Star Citizen - Roberts Space Industries | Follow the development of Star Citizen and Squadron 42

Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.

robertsspaceindustries.com

Edit: ninjaed!

Same here

That "Limitless Sci Fi Universe" is still cracking me up big time

Also note how they want to me to buy the game (again), despite me already having it and being logged in to my account.

 

[VR Golgot]

 

[rootsrat]

There should be more boxes to tick:

"I confirm that I don't understand how game development works."
"I confirm that it's a skills issue."
"I confirm that it's just my PC."

 

[Viajero]

This def won't come back to haunt them

Not sure if true or troll but

Looks like a good fake though

 

[VR Golgot]

Not sure if true or troll but

Looks like a good fake though

Hmm yeah, nothing on their 'official' discord feed. Guessing that's just a troll poke for Twitter.

Only a matter of time though . (CIG have already got paints lined up it seems).

 

[Ed02350]

Are those inflation adjusted dollars? You know 2010's dollars were somewhat stronger money than nowadays

Don't know about inflation conversion, but it's a funny coincidence they made almost enough to have a $mil for each employee.
I read on here more of their devs are straight from college and probably paid pretty low, anyone can alculate how much one of these would earn after 10 years at CIG? I'm guessing not $0.25mil

 

[Mole HD]

Same here
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That "Limitless Sci Fi Universe" is still cracking me up big time

Also note how they want to me to buy the game (again), despite me already having it and being logged in to my account.

Ahh, but you don't have any alt accounts used for aUEC farming or griefing

 

[Mole HD]

Not sure if true or troll but

Looks like a good fake though

It's a troll, nothing on the concierge store...no idea of subbies since I haven't subbed for years...and I'm not about to throw $20 in to the dumpster fire to find out

 

[rootsrat]

Ahh, but you don't have any alt accounts used for aUEC farming or griefing

I can do it all on my main.

Wait, no, that's not true. I could be doing it all on my main, if the gam... the demo was working properly

 

[Monk]

*taps the glass on my dusty Mustang in a forgotten hangar
This thing still work? The Aurora over there doesn't look much better...
Haven't checked on this in long time...years even

Hmm...oh well

EDIT:
I'm coming up on 10 years since I bought an Aurora to hop into the pre-pre-pre-pre-Alpha. I knew I was playing the long game here, but dang...

 

[Darkfyre99]

I'm coming up on 10 years since I bought an Aurora to hop into the pre-pre-pre-pre-Alpha. I knew I was playing the long game here, but dang...

One of the biggest ironies regarding Star Citizen’s development is that I backed the Kickstarter to give me something to play while I waited for Elite Dangerous to develop. I instead, it turned out to be the other way around, and SC is no closer to a playable state now than it was in 2014, let alone 2012 when Chris Roberts wrote on the Kickstarter

Even with our very limited self-funding we have been able to do already a lot of work which is why we can show you not just concept art and a cinematic trailer, but an extensive demo of actual game play.

Star Citizen

Reclaim the stars in the exciting new Space Epic from legendary game designer Chris Roberts.

www.kickstarter.com

 

[VR Golgot]

Stu has been digging...

Ortwin's retirement / golden yacht membership pretty much confirmed...

Comparison of latest confirmation statement (Sep 2024) to previous (Sep 2023)

11,745,920 total shares

Chris Roberts
was 8,354,020
now 8,354,020
no change
71% of total shares

Ortwin Freyermuth
was 973,990
now 0
lost all (-100%)
no share ownership

Erin Roberts
was 486,990
now 551,292
gain 63,302 (+13%)
4.7% of total shares

Erloch Ltd
was 36,000
now 70,034
gain 34,034 (+95%)
0.59% of total shares

Indus Management Ltd
was 1,563,900
now 2,435,116
gain 871,216 (+56%)
20.7% of total shares

Infatrade Group Corp
was 277,500
now 277,500
no change
2.4% of total shares

Marc Beaudet
was 26,760
now 28,979
gain 2,219 (+8%)
0.25% of total shares

Benoit Beausejour
was 26,760
now 28,979
gain 2,219 (+8%)
0.25% of total shares
Key note: Indus Management is Calders, and their shareholding has increased to 20.7% of the company, up from 15% (back in 2020 following their second investment)

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89.4% of Ortwin's shares went to Calders
what would be of partial interest, though i doubt it'll ever be made public, is whether Ortwin gave away his shares for free, or sold them.
because the price he sold them at would define the current valuation of the company.
if he sold them at the same valuation used when Calders invested back in 2020, Ortwin will have pocketed $20m or so.
imo it's doubtful Ortwin gave his shares for free, but also i doubt they'd have been at the previous valuation - my guess is Calders and the others got them cheap

Makes me think they Calders aren't eyeing the Q1 2025 lever then. (Unless they can cream that extra 6% off? And think CIG are good for it?)

Could make sense for any 2028 level pull though? IE more for the 3yr multiplier etc.

On the face of it though, they're still nesting with the golden goose. And ignoring the weirdly-shaped eggs

 

[VR Golgot]

Holy crap, they also copyrighted an MMO name in June:

'SOULSINGER'

Serial Number
98617408
Word Mark
SOULSINGER
Status
630 - New Application - Record Initialized Not Assigned To Examiner
Status Date
2024-06-25
Filing Date
2024-06-25

Goods and Services
Downloadable computer games software; downloadable video game software
Goods and Services
Entertainment provided via the Internet, namely, providing online massively multi-player video games; on-line entertainment services in the nature of online computer game tournaments; providing on-line information in the field of computer gaming entertainment; Entertainment services, namely, ongoing multimedia programs about a computer game featuring a fictional universe, accessible by web-based applications, mobile phone applications, and computer networks

Current Trademark Owners
Party Name
Cloud Imperium Rights LLC
Party Type
10 - Original Applicant
Legal Entity Type
16 - Limited Liability Company

Correspondences
Name
John Paul Oleksiuk Cooley LLP

Trademark Events

Event Date	Event Description
2024-06-25	NEW APPLICATION ENTERED

https://trademarks.justia.com/986/17/soulsinger-98617408.html

Is Tony Z going to emerge from the woods?

• CIG have a small skunkworks team working on a fantasy MMO. It is intended to broaden CIG's portfolio after SQ42 & SC launch. CR sees CIG as a successful name in the gaming world and is planning accordingly.
• Tony Z is working on an unnamed project. Possibly the same one.