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They're going to have invent a new (never done before!) term to describe streamers held hostage by a crappy game dev and feeling beholden to them. Robert's Syndrome? Citizen Syndrome? 
I mentioned it in my previous post, evocati builds aren't really playable, they're test client builds where very little, if any, of the game or patch functions in the subsequent PTU or live patches are included or work. The first EPTU builds are deemed as 'good' if the client doesn't crash when loaded up, the devs add more 'game' functions to the test client if it's stable enough then we start all over again testing individual or problem elements until it breaks or is stable. EPTU isn't a play test, that comes later when the devs hand it over to PTU.Evo is another world. Bog just mentioned how today's Evo is performing well. (He spent the prior 30 minutes stuck in lifts).
Stuff like this doesn't even cause a twitch
I know the NDA rules have been relaxed and all that...but why anyone would want to stream any of the evocati builds or even to make it appear as trying to play them like a PTU or released patch utterly baffles me. That's not what EPTU is all about...or at least it wasn't. General rule of thumb here and the same goes for PTU, if you want to just play the game with the new patch specific features or make your coin through streaming it rather than testing it, just toddle off and wait until the patch is dropped as a live release like everyone else.
I guess streamers just need those clicks and subs
There's a reason I stopped with any form of testing quite a few years ago, I don't have a PTU client installed either...It was killing any enthusiasm I ever had for just playing the game... and being a backer and long time player by choice rather than an unpaid QA tester by profession, I just wanted to play the game as a gamer and backer of star citizen... warts and all and such as it is. At least now when the game invariably crashes or breaks every 5 minutes, I can just turn it off, go play something else until casually dropping back in for the next patch release without filling in bug reports and spending time endlessly downloading client builds. It's quite liberating
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Evo is another world. Bog just mentioned how today's Evo is performing well. (He spent the prior 30 minutes stuck in lifts).
Stuff like this doesn't even cause a twitch
Yeah, if not for anything else CIG deserves at least a couple accolades: An impressive alleged funding over a decade thanks to some of the most abusive anticonsumer practices; and the also impressive success at normalizing objectively horrid quality thanks to constant bait & switch dreams and hopes that never really materialize coupled with a very effective communication strategy that has prevented any kind of widespread formal product reviews even after being released in early access.
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What's a stream of an evocati build got to do with Ci~G's bordering on fraudulent money laundering marketing strategies we all know about? I don't hear Bog trying to sell the game to anyone or shill for Ci~G... As much as I dislike streamers and 99% of their generally banal content, Bog is fairly tame and only shows or discusses what he sees
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The non sequitur met the reality of absolute inability.
Meanwhile 3.24 ain't winning any accolades...
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1ghv79i/is_anybody_having_fun_right_now/
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/1ghv79i/is_anybody_having_fun_right_now/
Viajero
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What's a stream of an evocati build got to do with Ci~G's bordering on fraudulent money laundering marketing strategies we all know about? I don't hear Bog trying to sell the game to anyone or shill for Ci~G... As much as I dislike streamers and 99% of their generally banal content, Bog is fairly tame and only shows or discusses what he sees
I was not referring to Bog specifically, he is chill indeed, but about the general problem of CIG succeeding at normalizing crap quality.
Etc... mentioned how today's Evo is performing well. (He spent the prior 30 minutes stuck in lifts) ... Stuff like this doesn't even cause a twitch
As far as I can tell he is just one more victim of that normalization. Although in his case at least he can also monetize it, so good on him.
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What's a stream of an evocati build got to do with Ci~G's bordering on fraudulent money laundering marketing strategies we all know about? I don't hear Bog trying to sell the game to anyone or shill for Ci~G... As much as I dislike streamers and 99% of their generally banal content, Bog is fairly tame and only shows or discusses what he sees
Directly or indirectly, SC streamers are trying to sell the game to other people. Its their livelihood. People don't buy into it, they might find themselves without money.
And a Spectrum thread about Morph's video, and some people dumping on super shill Morph for making this video. They clearly didn't watch it, since Morph was still being quite upbeat overall.
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25+ Features Star Citizen 4.0 Removed - Morphologis - Star Citizen Spectrum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-h63Ek7wbw 0:00 Missing Features 1:16 Don't Kill the Messenger 1:58 Official Removed Features 2:16 Life Support 2:44 Engineering 3:30 Fire 4:12 Charge/ Drain 4:31...
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Lol...
## Relevant Datamines
||```datapad_exechangar_pyam_outage_body=Em,\n\nYour design’s been approved by the board. Let’s meet out at the Executive Hangar tomorrow and we can start going over specifics of converting to the DCHS Comp-Boards.\n\n-Sasha\n\n----------------------------\n\nSasha,\n\nWe’ve had a similar issue with some of the Pyro I mining rigs, and I’ve done some preliminary work on converting them to use specialized Comp-Boards that’ll allow me to replace individual operations as they burn out. I haven’t had much time to test them, so I’m not sure if there’ll be any waterfall effects, but in theory it should work if we took all the Executive Hangar’s operations and converted them into discrete core hangar systems that could be fabricated and replaced as needed.\n\n-Em\n\nEmily Minot\nLead Engineer, Material Processing, Pyrotechnic Amalgamated.\n\n----------------------------\n\nTom,\n\nThat counts as sass. Serious suggestions only please.\n\n-Sasha\n\n----------------------------\n\nHow about they just land their ships at the normal stations like everyone else.\n\n-Tom\n\n---------------------------\n\nHey All,\n\nI am sure some of you have heard about the incident on Tuesday where an individual was trapped inside of the executive hangar owing to a flare event overloading the station’s power. To get everything operational again, it required a full replacement of the entire core operating center, which was costly and time consuming. \n\nThe executive board would like to hear solutions to help mitigate this happening in the future, and I don’t want to hear anything about how we shouldn’t have built a station so close to the sun. Those concerns were raised and dismissed before the Executive Hangar was constructed and I’m not in the mood for anyone’s sass.\n\nSasha McKail\nChief of Station Engineering & Maintenance, Pyrotechnic Amalgamated\n
datapad_exechangar_pyam_outage_title=RE: Executive Hangar Outage```||
||```datapad_exechangar_pothole_body=Get this - Ganker, Tumble and I fought our way to the vault inside Ghost Arena. Mixed in with the primo scram, found some sort of compboard fabricator there. \n\nTurns out the twisted s behind the arena have set up a race across pyro. Collect seven of ‘em and you get a new ride.\n\nNot sure what they get out of it? Probably betting on which one of us will live long enough to get our grubby little hands on the prize. Not that I’m complaining. If me getting rich is how they get their kicks, so be it.\n\n----------------------------\n\nFound another of the compboards buried in the abandoned section of one of the refueling stations. Had to kill a dozen or so of those Fire Rat loons to grab it. From the looks of it, not even sure they knew what they were sittin’ on. \n\nWas going to put the board in my ruck when Ganker stopped me. Said it was only fair if we each held on to one to keep us honest and all that. I said that seemed like a good way to lose ‘em since Tumble can’t even keep track of their pants half the time, but I was overruled.\n\nI guess the bigger problem is figuring out what to do with these things if we even manage to get all seven. Just gotta stay focused on that for now.\n\n----------------------------\n\nTurns out the compboards are used by this Executive Hangar that Pyrotechnic set up near the star. It’s locked up tight right now, but I bet there’s a juicy ship waiting in there. \n\nGanker and Tumble started talking about what we should do with the new ship once we got it and who gets to be captain. I should know better than to open my mouth, but I made the mistake of askin’ what happens if it’s a solo ship? Ganker said it should be theirs because Tumble already has a ship, and that made Tumble mad. They said they should get it since Ganker was the reason their ship was in such bad shape, anyway. \n\nAt least I wasn’t fool enough to say it was going to be my ship.\n\n----------------------------\n\nGanker killed Tumble! Said they couldn’t be trusted. Now Ganker’s holdin’ 5 of the compboards and things ain’t lookin’ too good for me. \n\nDabatin’ if I want to cut loose at this point, or wait until we get the seventh board? Maybe once we get to the hangar I can figure something out. Hard to pass on a new ship.\n
datapad_exechangar_pothole_title=Pothole's Journal```||
||```item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_01=DCHS-01 Executive Access Protocols Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_01_short=DCHS-01
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_02=DCHS-02 Security Encryption Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_02_short=DCHS-02
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_03=DCHS-03 Vehicle Management Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_03_short=DCHS-03
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_04=DCHS-04 Power Processing Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_04_short=DCHS-04
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_05=DCHS-05 Orbital Positioning Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_05_short=DCHS-05
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_06=DCHS-06 Air Traffic Control Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_06_short=DCHS-06
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_07=DCHS-07 Engineering Maintenance Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_07_short=DCHS-07
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_08=DCHS-08 Gravity Control Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_08_short=DCHS-08
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_09=DCHS-09 Atmospheric Control Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_09_short=DCHS-09
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_01=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with executive access protocol operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_02=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with security encryption operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_03=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with vehicle management operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_04=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with power processing operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_05=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with orbital positioning operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_06=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with air traffic control operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_07=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with engineering maintenance operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_08=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with gravity control operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_09=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with atmospheric control operations.
```||
||```datapad_exechangar_pyam_outage_body=Em,\n\nYour design’s been approved by the board. Let’s meet out at the Executive Hangar tomorrow and we can start going over specifics of converting to the DCHS Comp-Boards.\n\n-Sasha\n\n----------------------------\n\nSasha,\n\nWe’ve had a similar issue with some of the Pyro I mining rigs, and I’ve done some preliminary work on converting them to use specialized Comp-Boards that’ll allow me to replace individual operations as they burn out. I haven’t had much time to test them, so I’m not sure if there’ll be any waterfall effects, but in theory it should work if we took all the Executive Hangar’s operations and converted them into discrete core hangar systems that could be fabricated and replaced as needed.\n\n-Em\n\nEmily Minot\nLead Engineer, Material Processing, Pyrotechnic Amalgamated.\n\n----------------------------\n\nTom,\n\nThat counts as sass. Serious suggestions only please.\n\n-Sasha\n\n----------------------------\n\nHow about they just land their ships at the normal stations like everyone else.\n\n-Tom\n\n---------------------------\n\nHey All,\n\nI am sure some of you have heard about the incident on Tuesday where an individual was trapped inside of the executive hangar owing to a flare event overloading the station’s power. To get everything operational again, it required a full replacement of the entire core operating center, which was costly and time consuming. \n\nThe executive board would like to hear solutions to help mitigate this happening in the future, and I don’t want to hear anything about how we shouldn’t have built a station so close to the sun. Those concerns were raised and dismissed before the Executive Hangar was constructed and I’m not in the mood for anyone’s sass.\n\nSasha McKail\nChief of Station Engineering & Maintenance, Pyrotechnic Amalgamated\n
datapad_exechangar_pyam_outage_title=RE: Executive Hangar Outage```||
||```datapad_exechangar_pothole_body=Get this - Ganker, Tumble and I fought our way to the vault inside Ghost Arena. Mixed in with the primo scram, found some sort of compboard fabricator there. \n\nTurns out the twisted s behind the arena have set up a race across pyro. Collect seven of ‘em and you get a new ride.\n\nNot sure what they get out of it? Probably betting on which one of us will live long enough to get our grubby little hands on the prize. Not that I’m complaining. If me getting rich is how they get their kicks, so be it.\n\n----------------------------\n\nFound another of the compboards buried in the abandoned section of one of the refueling stations. Had to kill a dozen or so of those Fire Rat loons to grab it. From the looks of it, not even sure they knew what they were sittin’ on. \n\nWas going to put the board in my ruck when Ganker stopped me. Said it was only fair if we each held on to one to keep us honest and all that. I said that seemed like a good way to lose ‘em since Tumble can’t even keep track of their pants half the time, but I was overruled.\n\nI guess the bigger problem is figuring out what to do with these things if we even manage to get all seven. Just gotta stay focused on that for now.\n\n----------------------------\n\nTurns out the compboards are used by this Executive Hangar that Pyrotechnic set up near the star. It’s locked up tight right now, but I bet there’s a juicy ship waiting in there. \n\nGanker and Tumble started talking about what we should do with the new ship once we got it and who gets to be captain. I should know better than to open my mouth, but I made the mistake of askin’ what happens if it’s a solo ship? Ganker said it should be theirs because Tumble already has a ship, and that made Tumble mad. They said they should get it since Ganker was the reason their ship was in such bad shape, anyway. \n\nAt least I wasn’t fool enough to say it was going to be my ship.\n\n----------------------------\n\nGanker killed Tumble! Said they couldn’t be trusted. Now Ganker’s holdin’ 5 of the compboards and things ain’t lookin’ too good for me. \n\nDabatin’ if I want to cut loose at this point, or wait until we get the seventh board? Maybe once we get to the hangar I can figure something out. Hard to pass on a new ship.\n
datapad_exechangar_pothole_title=Pothole's Journal```||
||```item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_01=DCHS-01 Executive Access Protocols Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_01_short=DCHS-01
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_02=DCHS-02 Security Encryption Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_02_short=DCHS-02
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_03=DCHS-03 Vehicle Management Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_03_short=DCHS-03
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_04=DCHS-04 Power Processing Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_04_short=DCHS-04
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_05=DCHS-05 Orbital Positioning Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_05_short=DCHS-05
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_06=DCHS-06 Air Traffic Control Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_06_short=DCHS-06
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_07=DCHS-07 Engineering Maintenance Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_07_short=DCHS-07
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_08=DCHS-08 Gravity Control Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_08_short=DCHS-08
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_09=DCHS-09 Atmospheric Control Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_09_short=DCHS-09
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_01=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with executive access protocol operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_02=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with security encryption operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_03=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with vehicle management operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_04=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with power processing operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_05=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with orbital positioning operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_06=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with air traffic control operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_07=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with engineering maintenance operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_08=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with gravity control operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_09=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with atmospheric control operations.
```||
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Lol...
## Relevant Datamines
||```datapad_exechangar_pyam_outage_body=Em,\n\nYour design’s been approved by the board. Let’s meet out at the Executive Hangar tomorrow and we can start going over specifics of converting to the DCHS Comp-Boards.\n\n-Sasha\n\n----------------------------\n\nSasha,\n\nWe’ve had a similar issue with some of the Pyro I mining rigs, and I’ve done some preliminary work on converting them to use specialized Comp-Boards that’ll allow me to replace individual operations as they burn out. I haven’t had much time to test them, so I’m not sure if there’ll be any waterfall effects, but in theory it should work if we took all the Executive Hangar’s operations and converted them into discrete core hangar systems that could be fabricated and replaced as needed.\n\n-Em\n\nEmily Minot\nLead Engineer, Material Processing, Pyrotechnic Amalgamated.\n\n----------------------------\n\nTom,\n\nThat counts as sass. Serious suggestions only please.\n\n-Sasha\n\n----------------------------\n\nHow about they just land their ships at the normal stations like everyone else.\n\n-Tom\n\n---------------------------\n\nHey All,\n\nI am sure some of you have heard about the incident on Tuesday where an individual was trapped inside of the executive hangar owing to a flare event overloading the station’s power. To get everything operational again, it required a full replacement of the entire core operating center, which was costly and time consuming. \n\nThe executive board would like to hear solutions to help mitigate this happening in the future, and I don’t want to hear anything about how we shouldn’t have built a station so close to the sun. Those concerns were raised and dismissed before the Executive Hangar was constructed and I’m not in the mood for anyone’s sass.\n\nSasha McKail\nChief of Station Engineering & Maintenance, Pyrotechnic Amalgamated\n
datapad_exechangar_pyam_outage_title=RE: Executive Hangar Outage```||
||```datapad_exechangar_pothole_body=Get this - Ganker, Tumble and I fought our way to the vault inside Ghost Arena. Mixed in with the primo scram, found some sort of compboard fabricator there. \n\nTurns out the twisted s behind the arena have set up a race across pyro. Collect seven of ‘em and you get a new ride.\n\nNot sure what they get out of it? Probably betting on which one of us will live long enough to get our grubby little hands on the prize. Not that I’m complaining. If me getting rich is how they get their kicks, so be it.\n\n----------------------------\n\nFound another of the compboards buried in the abandoned section of one of the refueling stations. Had to kill a dozen or so of those Fire Rat loons to grab it. From the looks of it, not even sure they knew what they were sittin’ on. \n\nWas going to put the board in my ruck when Ganker stopped me. Said it was only fair if we each held on to one to keep us honest and all that. I said that seemed like a good way to lose ‘em since Tumble can’t even keep track of their pants half the time, but I was overruled.\n\nI guess the bigger problem is figuring out what to do with these things if we even manage to get all seven. Just gotta stay focused on that for now.\n\n----------------------------\n\nTurns out the compboards are used by this Executive Hangar that Pyrotechnic set up near the star. It’s locked up tight right now, but I bet there’s a juicy ship waiting in there. \n\nGanker and Tumble started talking about what we should do with the new ship once we got it and who gets to be captain. I should know better than to open my mouth, but I made the mistake of askin’ what happens if it’s a solo ship? Ganker said it should be theirs because Tumble already has a ship, and that made Tumble mad. They said they should get it since Ganker was the reason their ship was in such bad shape, anyway. \n\nAt least I wasn’t fool enough to say it was going to be my ship.\n\n----------------------------\n\nGanker killed Tumble! Said they couldn’t be trusted. Now Ganker’s holdin’ 5 of the compboards and things ain’t lookin’ too good for me. \n\nDabatin’ if I want to cut loose at this point, or wait until we get the seventh board? Maybe once we get to the hangar I can figure something out. Hard to pass on a new ship.\n
datapad_exechangar_pothole_title=Pothole's Journal```||
||```item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_01=DCHS-01 Executive Access Protocols Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_01_short=DCHS-01
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_02=DCHS-02 Security Encryption Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_02_short=DCHS-02
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_03=DCHS-03 Vehicle Management Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_03_short=DCHS-03
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_04=DCHS-04 Power Processing Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_04_short=DCHS-04
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_05=DCHS-05 Orbital Positioning Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_05_short=DCHS-05
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_06=DCHS-06 Air Traffic Control Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_06_short=DCHS-06
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_07=DCHS-07 Engineering Maintenance Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_07_short=DCHS-07
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_08=DCHS-08 Gravity Control Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_08_short=DCHS-08
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_09=DCHS-09 Atmospheric Control Comp-Board
item_name_ExecHangar_CompBoard_09_short=DCHS-09
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_01=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with executive access protocol operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_02=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with security encryption operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_03=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with vehicle management operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_04=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with power processing operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_05=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with orbital positioning operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_06=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with air traffic control operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_07=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with engineering maintenance operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_08=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with gravity control operations.
item_desc_ExecHangar_CompBoard_09=This discrete core hangar system comp-board is coded with atmospheric control operations.
```||
An exclusive F8C? Surely it must punch above its weight!