I haven't been able to get into the game alpha game all day. I either 30K a second after joining a server, or the game just sits at the loading screen. On the plus side, I've never had better framerates.
Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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Those pesky Sandwurms! Been in the game since 2016.
Mojang is the studio behind Minecraft.Not a clue who or what Mojang are/is, or what on earth they/it has to do with folk who occasionally play or stream Star Citizen
If by any chance you’ve neglected to try out Minecraft, whether because you assumed it was just a kids game or thought it just wasn’t for you, I emplore you to reconsider! It is a phenomenal game, deceptively simple, perfectly open-ended.
I haven’t tried SC in… quite a while. I have an aurora which really isn’t much fun to fly, and I’ve tried a couple of other ships during free fly events. The flight model has yet to grow on me, and it takes too much SSD space for me to leave it there and keep trying, so I’ll get curious about it and reinstall and then get frustrated and uninstall. Quantum drives me nuts. I always felt like Supercruise made intuitive sense, even things I had to learn made sense once I’d learned them, like “of course you have to adjust your speed down to the blue zone, otherwise you’re going too fast and will overshoot”. Is Quantum like that for you guys? Is it something you get used to, or something that just clicks and then it’s obvious? I don’t want to complain about something I just haven’t used enough, but trying to get from the station to a planet I could walk around on was just not fun for me, partially because it crashed multiple times and put me back on the station (does that show how long ago it was since I tried this?) and partially because it just didn’t seem intuitive to me. Then again, Im old and crotchety sometimes. Still willing to give this game a shot, even if I won’t give it any more money.
Apologies.
Wise words.
However, not taking a break from following the development of the game. No other product has given me as much comedic entertainment as SC! And all for free!
OA, Yamiks, and many others have also been covering SC (on and off) for years.
Its almost as though space game fans might be interested in multiple space games :O
I think Lt Dan is trying to show that because some ED players have swtiched to SC due to Odyssey's abysmal release it somehow means SC is now good. I think we all understand the fallacy behind such a position as one does not depend on the other. It may be that for some people they find SC to better than Odyssey, they get more enjoyment out of it, but both are bug ridden unoptmized messes.
Its basically a case of choose your poison.
But for SC, you have a clear label on the bottle that it's still poison (alpha) where FDEV put a "maple syrup" on it (released). The taste of the syrup is quite surprising for some
But for SC, you have a clear label on the bottle that it's still poison (alpha) where FDEV put a "maple syrup" on it (released). The taste of the syrup is quite surprising for some
Ah yes, the eternal alpha. So if FD had kept Odyssey in alpha for all these months you think ED players would have been ok with that?
I think ED players expect delivery of the product they paid for, especially those that preordered.
It only appears to be in SC land people are prepared to accept an eternal alpha while throwing more and more money at the devs for non-delivery.
Speaking for myself and a lot of people I know.
CIG is the only company trying to deliver (and already delivering some parts of) what I want in a space game : beautiful visuals in space and on planets with weather, no loading, ship interior, EVA, a leg first universe and FPS. So no choice if you want all of that. And the funding will not dry up as the alpha is more and more enjoyable patch after patch. The more CIG is funded, the more the alpha deliver. It's only in your mind that you don't see delivery, and a lot of recent ED players switching to SC sudenly realise that. They try the SC alpha because of EDO, thinking they will only find jpg/no gameplay/crash every 5 min after reading tread like this one and have a blast.
And the EDO release fiasco also confirms to a lot of backers that they were right to give money to CIG. After the no VR, no ship interior, no new gen console (because, I'm sure at 95%, FDEV doesn't want to switch to last gen API DX12/Vulkan) announced, also a lot of ED players start to understand that the company that will deliver in the future will be CIG and not FDEV.
You love to talk about sunk cost fallacy here, but always talk about the cost in money, never the cost in time.
After pouring thousand of hours in a game, the "sunk cost fallacy" hit at max for a lot of ED players. It's not possible to find better elsewhere ! I will not abandon my game after all those hours invested for a blatant tech demo with fake ships... It doesn't help to understand what's going on now.
It effects us carebears too you know...we can't dodge the bullets
I like misguided optimism...added with a touch of misguided loyalty and misplaced trust, it sums up how I view your outlook and comments on Ci¬G and Star Citizen. I'm not suggesting it's wrong, I can remember when I felt like that too
As for the supposed 'fiasco' of EDO...many folk just keep on playing... and enjoying it... after having paid roughly half the cost of a Star Citizen starter package to do so. The more pragmatic of those supporters and players trust that FDev will address the issues it has and don't attempt vacuous point scoring comparisons with a project from a developer who has produced nothing more technically complicated than a tech demo of a screenshot generator after 10 years of taking people's money.
EDO is what it is, it's released, it's playable...warts and all... and it's paid for, FDev won't be asking for more of people's money to fix it... Star Citizen after roughly the same time in development as both ED and EDO combined is still 90% incomplete, still very broken and Ci¬G are still asking for people's money. Where's the comparison besides the fact both games have pixel spaceships?
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Sorry to break the gently flowing argument, but when's the next free to play? Is there any way to get notified? I think I'd like to try it...
Mojang was / is Minecraft dev. Persson sold it to Microsoft.Are you genuinely just running out of relevant comments...or is this just another recent addition to your exhaustive list of completely random internet scams you've freshly uncovered? You really should try playing some games occasionally since I'm sure the constant search for anything at all, vaguely or not, related to Ci¬G or Star Citizen must be very tiring. You seem to be fixated on folk leaving any game currently being played to try out Star Citizen then making videos about it...I also have no idea why this is in any way important to you...
Not a clue who or what Mojang are/is, or what on earth they/it has to do with folk who occasionally play or stream Star Citizen
My trust is not misplaced. Since I play games, I always wanted a space game with (quoted from my last post) beautiful visuals in space and on planets with weather, ship interior, EVA, a leg first universe and FPS. That's exactly what I have in the alpha now. It's not about trust anymore for those elements, I just see it, play it and enjoy it. And as CIG is constantly adding elements I greatly enjoy to the alpha (caves, new biomes, boarding missions, derelict missions...), I don't see in a near future why I should not trust CIG anymore.I like misguided optimism...added with a touch of misguided loyalty and misplaced trust, it sums up how I view your outlook and comments on Ci¬G and Star Citizen. I'm not suggesting it's wrong, I can remember when I felt like that too
There are between 2 and 4 freefly events by year, you just have missed the last one. I cant' find a newsletter to subscribe to in the official website. Perhaps subscribe on a gaming news site that have a dedicated news channel for SC.
Because CIG lied to us multiple times in a way it would make them go out of business under any sane publisher? Only because they can? Because a hostage fanbase cannot be bothered to exercise any kind of coordinated accountability measures that a publisher otherwise would?
As you said, it is not a question of trust, because there is nothing to trust them with anymore. The fact that you enjoy SC in its current state is not mutually exclusive with SC being a complete failure on the project management and delivery level. If you are happy with a wonky, unstable arena shooter, great. Really. I was happy with initial, very limited iterations of Warframe as well. But your contentment says nothing about the disconnect between promises and deliveries, or how much resources it already took to deliver the current state of affairs.
(SQ42 when?
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One of these developers has a ghost in hells chance of getting out of the alpha state.But for SC, you have a clear label on the bottle that it's still poison (alpha) where FDEV put a "maple syrup" on it (released). The taste of the syrup is quite surprising for some
So where should I go if I want my daily dose of beautiful visuals in space and on planets with weather, ship interior, EVA, a leg first universe and FPS ? Which game can I play now for this experience ? Or which company can I trust for it now ?
The loud parts (because I don't have a clue what the silent parts are like) of the ED/SC communities are not space game fans though. They're hardcore tribal single-game fundamentalists, and though they define themselves as "space game fans", they define "space game" as per the list of features (as of latest patch) of the one game they play. So you start with first-person-space-trading-mining-combat-with-space-ww2-dogfights-and-loud-explosions-in-space, then you add stuff. If you miss one feature, sorry, your game isn't really a space game, and it's boring anyway. Who can play a space game without a bartender serving virtual drinks or less than 2 billion star systems? What's even the point? Anything not in the feature list is at best an inconsequential nice-to-have (ex: orbital mechanics or functional multiplayer). Until it's implemented of course, then it gets promoted to the first category.
They remind me of the Linux distro wars on Usenet. Except it's possible that some of the distro wars participants have played Kerbal Space Program or Children of a Dead Earth since, which makes them more legit space game fans according to my very own personal intricate ranking system that history books will someday use as a reference. Also, the distro wars people used to play both Wing Commander and X-Wing.
