They end up stressed out and walk, it all becomes too much. Not a bad gig if you are young and single, but at his time of life? Separated miles from family and friends in rainy Manchester would do anyone's head in.
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Who said Strangli is coming too?
Ok, so this applies somewhat to CIG's marketing as well as certain backers, some of them streamers/youtubers who use their channels to promote SC.
They talk about SC like its already this wonderfully playable game. So many things to do! How they hardly ever have bugs! They entice people into playing the game by misrepresenting the actual state of the game. Even those who just comment on reddit or Spectrum create this view.
Then someone, whether its a YouTuber or a poster posts their criticism of the game.
Response: You can't criticize it, ITS ALPHA!
Now, you think that's fine?
Well, that's your choice.
CIG has already admitted they won't release the game Chris described (a universal shard where all players can interact). So they've already failed, meaning those of us who claimed it was a scam have already been shown to be correct.
And they've raised half a billion (!) dollars with Chris' lies. Releasing a different game doesn't fix that.
And they've raised half a billion (!) dollars with Chris' lies. Releasing a different game doesn't fix that.
I feel this is a major strawman. Every youtuber i've seen be critical of SC, every negative article, and of course, on refunds ITS ALPHA is a running joke.
I think its often quite clear that its alpha and nobody is trying to deny that.
Even when people are praising SC, they talk about how wonderful it is, despite it being an alpha. But then, as i said, the moment someone is critical, then ITS ALPHA!!!! Even if the person being critical is fully aware of this and maybe even mentioned it.
AFAIK, (and i could be wrong) there has been no statement as to whether Sandi and the kids are moving with Chris.
We still don't know if Jared has family or not.
I think one needs to frame it in terms of cognitive dissonance, and there is a rift in trying to juggle "There is a game and I've had many enjoyable hours engaging with what is available" with "It's an alpha, it's supposed to be buggy, I'm having fun but you really can't critique this project, because it's not a game yet."
Both cannot exist simultaneously. Even games designated as "early access" get reviews, but somehow SC seems to sidestep this, despite CR's statements that it's an early access game. The SC community at large seems to not want to read any official reviews, even though many members of the same community have no problem deriding similar EA games.
Personally, I don't like that "EA" is (and has been) a designation. I don't review meals from a restaurant based on their line prep, or my cocktails based on how the bartender was cutting up limes prior to opening.
EDIT: Should musicians be reviewed based on demo tracks?
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Can you see her in Manchester away from the California sun and her Hollywood chums? Me neither. I still stand by my Hobo Lando comment though, family or not.
Almost half a billion dollar to create a company with 700 employees and create two games (with one of them where players have already great fun) ? You laugh but I don't understand why. Some other players were laughing with you last years, now they play SC and actually wonder why they were laughing at the game the year before...Almost half a billion dollars! Don't make me laugh.
Oh1 OK then
You should try a free fly, perhaps you will understand why some players don't laugh anymore about SC.
Almost HALF A BILLION DOLLARS! See why I'm laughing. You're in too deep mate.
I'm sure it's a mutual thing. Ant bombarding us with outright nollocks can be seen as respectless and with the amounts he dumps here - who'd take anything from him serious anymore. The toxic gitgud attitude of the average pimple-faced PvP salt-farmer surely provides fror the appropriate response in kind.
No one said it wouldn’t improve either. They were just laughing at its poor state in TYOOL 2018. And the litany of reworks both planned for it and already lying in its wake.
Just as people laugh at all the many changes, both executed and planned, for HUDs, 'physical damage', gravlev flight etc etc. The endless conveyor belt of mothballed reveals, ropey reworks, and sacrificial art…
There is nothing normal about a monetised open alpha closing in on its first decade…
... despite lacking the majority of planned features, and one that's nowhere to be seen, is dependent on all the same broken technology that plagues the other game, and is currently 7 years late with no release even planned.
Why do you think the number of employees a defense? Pointing out how little has been achieved with so much money is no worse than pointing out how little has been achieved by so many people.
Also it's not just one company, and the majority of the companies aren't even involved in developing the games.
Isn't it possible to both laugh at SC/CIG and enjoy playing it?
I don't think its binary.
700 employees is not a good defense regarding the current state of SC and neither is half a billion dollars.
So what ? Those are rookie numbers for 2 AAAA games.
Metaverse will cost 10 billion for 2021.
GTA 5 earning $2.5 million per day since it's release...
Puzzle & Dragons earning 8 billion dollars
You've lost me now. CI-G haven't sold a game yet, what are you on about?
Fan sites and Patreon-driven channels aren’t de facto better than tabloids. They come out with uninquisitive, bombastic tat all the time. Digital Foundry would be a good case in point:
Fun to catch up on his tech expectations after nearly 2 years though
Expectations (Oct 2019):
"It’s not 100% there yet. As I see it there are about three main things getting in the way of that vision coming together."
- Player Count: Server Meshing, "where multiple servers work in a lattice and hand off information and simulation tasks to each other cooperatively, is still in development and something to be added in the future…"
- AI Behaviour: "SOCS will intelligently cull and time slice aspects of simulation, so much more of it can happen at any given time. Paving the way for more detailed AI simulation." [12m20s]
- Full Persistence: "Full on persistence tracking for item placement, or the status of all the NPCs and characters… is scheduled in the future to come out concurrently with SOCS." [13m30s]
Well we got SOCS. Shame the other stuff didn’t happen :/
But at least the chambered bullet is still visible if you peer down your gun…
For all their comparable clickbait sins, the traditional press do at least chuck out some decently researched journalism from time to time. The Kotaku UK series is probably the stand-out in this regard.
So what ? Those are rookie numbers for 2 AAAA games.
Metaverse will cost 10 billion for 2021.
GTA 5 earning $2.5 million per day since it's release...
Puzzle & Dragons earning 8 billion dollars
Released. Products.
(When is SC gonna work on my Oculus Rift by the way?
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Sure, I get the logical contradiction. What I dont get is why that is a problem. I mean, what it boils down to is "people in fandom [x] are unreasonable and illogical in their praise of [x]". Yeah, true, but as long as they aren't teaching formal logic at uni with this as a good example of logical consistency I dont see the problem with fans being unreasonably positive. If it was a serious journalist on an 'official' platform it would be a bit more problematic.
True. Its weird how it became so accepted so readily. Discussing the cons of this industry trend is absolutely fair for sure.
Personally I despise 'scoring reviews' of music in general. Its fine to have a magazine post something like "demo tracks of [x] have surfaced. You can hear early versions of [songs]. Most notable the famous guitar solo is here played on an electric kazoo, and the tempo is almost three times higher than on the record. High intensity recordings, though with admittedly sub-optimal production values. "
Not much of a fan of "Evangelical screamo-core band gurgbleblaster's latest album is a bit boring. 7/10, you're better off listening to the latest turbo folk album of Marko Goranovic as we gave that one a 7.5/10."
Btw, if you join fandoms of specific pop artists you'll see similar loads of bizarre claims and nonsense as people put their chosen musician on a pedestal. Silly? Yup. A problem, as Agony puts it? Dont see why. I also don't see why it is important, useful or even fun to mock people for being unreasonably positive about a computer game. One might even consider it to be needlessly rude and unkind. Just my 2c, as always.