Odyssey adds atmospheres up to 0.1 atm, Mars' atmosphere sits at ~0.088 atm. Mars has clouds and duststorms, Odyssey planets do not. Weather effects are possible in the Atmospheres allowed by Odyssey. Mars also has cave-like structures, while Odyssey does not.
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Holy Jesus, that cadence of the faithful can only mean a fuse is going to burn out soon.
QFT!
Yet, both games started development at roughly the same time. Yes, CIG had to grow, but we know they extensively used contractors early on and by late 2013 already had more people working on SC than FD had (and have) working on ED. In terms of money, CIG have had a whole lot more money than the ED team has had invested.
Neither game has stopped development, so any time one of the faithful says its not finished (or its alpha) we can use the same argument for ED.
The main difference is, one actually made a releasable product within 2 years, the other still hasn't after 10 years.
Yet you and others do compare your alpha to a released game. So its one rule for you but another rule for others?
If you're saying not all of CIG's 700+ employees are developers, you're probably right, although i don't know from where you got the 400 number. But the same can be said of any game dev company. Not everyone is a developer. Otherwise i'm missing your point completely.
Word!
My favourite answer to the question of "What are NFTs?"
Well I suppose the comparison isn't fair but there isn't another Alpha space game.
Cloud Imperium Financials for 2020
CIG's Chief Financial Officer Presents Our Accounting for the 2020 Financial Year
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Also, seems to be 511 people to be precise.
"A team of approximately 1,600 people developed Red Dead Redemption 2 over several years."
I doubt that people like financial analysts at the company are included in that figure.
Hahaha
They were largely gifted 88 million and still don't have a releasable product.
It is quite fascinating in itself.
There again, Elizabeth Holmes got almost 1 billion without making a deliverable product, so in comparison, CR is a bit behind. They do both like wearing those black turtlenecks though.
Money does not make games, people do. Throwing money at a server and telling to mesh will not get you anywhere.
Ah, a prediction of the future. Time will tell on that one.
Sure, but can they deliver?
CIG say lots of things. We were talking about whether CIG will deliver 5-10 systems at all, not just after release. My position was we will be lucky to get 5-10 by the end going off CIG's current development pace. Or at least in our lifetimes. But again, counterpoint was there are a few systems out there more complex than Stanton. So, you're suggesting effectively there will be nothing more complicated than Stanton in the coming years? You might be right!
Also, ships are not planets/systems. We know CIG can create ships, it seems like a majority of what they deliver at times. Systems they don't seem to be able to do quickly.
So, basically the most complex system is going to remain Stanton? Wow..... that's going to be such a good space game! Surely the Best Damn Space Sim Ever!
Ummm.... what? That seems like a poor attempt at a deflection. I'm pretty certain you know to what i am referring and simply don't want to acknowledge it.
Nah, the more CRs there are the slower it would get.
Imagine all the blue pixels he would spot that need changing!
Finally a decent counterpoint!
I agree, ED could do more with things like volcanos and duststorms on low atmosphere planets. Erm... not an expert, but i guess you can have volcanos on planets without atmospheres as well.
Well they've shown off Pyro with all of it's Planets at citcon...
They've delivered with Stanton LZs so far..
Most likely not. Stanton is a commercial hub in-lore.
Make a singular 3D model vs making multiple planets, a landing zone maybe, with unique locations and flora. I think there is quite the difference.
Do you want more complex? What's the problem with Stanton? Too simple? Should they take more time and feature creep even more? Is that what you're saying?
That was the original pitch, wasn't it?
What does that have to do with anything? Again, SC faithful be like "SC good, ED bad!", others "ED actually better than SC at X". SC faithful "That's not fair! You can't compare it, ITS ALPHA"
Cloud Imperium Financials for 2020
CIG's Chief Financial Officer Presents Our Accounting for the 2020 Financial Year
Also, seems to be 511 people to be precise.
Ah, right. Even bigger now according to CR.
Question is, does that mean all at the same time or all the people who worked on the project over time? We know at CIG everyone working there is working on either SC or SQ42, which share a lot of common elements.
Yet backers love to point to how much money CIG have taken in as proof that somehow SC is going to be a success and released one day in line with what they were sold.
If you're gonna compare an unreleased game that clearly isnt finished with bugs (you know, an Alpha) to a game that is completely finished with all content done then there's gonna be fundamental differences making the comparison stupid.
What are you trying to say with this?
The DeanBeat: How much did Red Dead Redemption 2 cost to make? (updated)
Is it possible that Rockstar Games spent $644 million to make its epic Wild West game, Red Dead Redemption 2? We've taken our guess.
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I've looked around and i've seen figures of 3000 people "over time" and the statement above. So I suppose that while in full swing production they had 1000 people working on it.
I'm saying double standards on display, by you. You're happy to compare SC favourably to ED and don't bring up its alpha, but the moment we compare ED favourably to SC, suddenly ITS ALPHA, YOU CANT COMPARE THEM.
I'm calling you out on that.
"In the works for seven years with a team as high as 1,000 developers, artists, designers, writers, and more, it could very well be the most expensive game of all time."The DeanBeat: How much did Red Dead Redemption 2 cost to make? (updated)
Is it possible that Rockstar Games spent $644 million to make its epic Wild West game, Red Dead Redemption 2? We've taken our guess.
I've looked around and i've seen figures of 3000 people "over time" and the statement above. So I suppose that while in full swing production they had 1000 people working on it.
Thanks. Big team then. Still, they did deliver a game in 7 years.
Fair, should have said that it's an Alpha and that they can very well degrade the planets back to being a barren mess because reasons.
With about double the developers that CIG has now.
Morphologis? LOL, pass. Guy is not an objective source.