Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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In Odyssey you get first landing tag, if you get out of your ship too...probably worth some money.Does landing on planets in Elite get you anything more for exploration than just scanning them from orbit?
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Not really "gameplay" wise, unless you want to scan some space plants or take part in an FPS mission. There are also human and non-human locations to visit.Does landing on planets in Elite get you anything more for exploration than just scanning them from orbit?
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If, on the other hand, you are up for a walk on a rock orbiting another rock somewhere in the magnificient, vast void of the universe, while witnessing some potentially breathtaking starsets or starrises, the answer changes dramatically.
Why would i do that? I saw the video in advance@StuartGT you gotta let obsidian know that just because a bar ends on the progress tracker, that doesn mean it is done. just that no one is working on it.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lySLquHwp9E&t=216s
Does landing on planets in Elite get you anything more for exploration than just scanning them from orbit?
Asking for a friend.
If you are the first to do it, your name is permanently attached to the planet.
You mean the Odyssey 'landfall', as in disembarking your ship or SRV on foot.
You keep the 1st discovered & 1st mapped tags, the cat gets 1st landfall tag.
So they had it right 7 years ago? And CIg is proving it right. But not everyone who is new to SC or ED would know it's a scam till after...so its good always to make folks aware before. Over and over again, since there's always new people. Do free fly's, and you never have to give them another penny, and they have enough to finish the game. Or, they go away.
They're taking that old engine probably further than they thought they could, already. And of course they'll continue to, since at the same time, they'd be making sure the new engine filled with the latest greatest stuff possible before switching to it. And with everyone saying the current engine is outdated, they must be making a new one right? Thats what some game developers do...make their own engines. Some dont...some use current ones like unity or Unreal, etc. Some use ones that were outdated before they even started, like CIg with SC.
And are you actually bringing up game and add-on prices? Go to your mirror, look in it, and ask yourself if you even believe you just asked that. LOL. SC has 2 things you can pledge that are under $50. Have you walked around the interior of those ships?
Yeah, thats what will happen. When/if CIg stop getting free money, I bet they'll start saying how space games suck and noone should make them. It's not their fault, its eBobs and everyone elses fault.
Still at it? Look, we all bow down to CR and CIg's ability to deliver nothing, while getting millions of dollars. Just like giving a baby a toy when it goes poopy. Wait, the baby is still producing more than CIg, so not the best analogy. But all other gaming companies, who are far out of the crib, have to resort to things like delivering products and adding content to garner money to pay their staff. There is literally no other company on the planet that gets millions of dollars for actually removing things from their deliverables other than the big baby CIg. So stop bringing that up as some sort of issue lol. And while you keep spoiling that big baby, they aren't going to develop.
Are you trying to say CIg never claimed to a release date, so it's ok for them not to release anything?
My issue is CIG's management, which is driven by Chris himself - he's a visionary and a perfectionist, which is a combination that often clashes with effective leadership and management skills. Furthermore, we've seen his management in-play in the past - with dubious results. Couple that with wildly optimistic projections of what CIG can accomplish within given amounts of time pushed by CIG's PR folks (and then pushed hard to the right), and backers like me who began really optimistic have become either hostile or jaded.
My frustration often manifests itself in humor or snark, so I share it here and over on Spectrum. Others seem to like it, though the resident white knights often waste no time rage-pecking that report button on me.
Look, I want to see SC successful, or I'd have not poured over ten grand into it. But my track record on backing stuff ain't great. I was a huge proponent of the Timex Sinclair home computers, which went defunct, the Handspring handset series - which was bought out and then went defunct, and the Blackberry handsets - which went defunct. But don't let that get you down - I'm sure Star Citizen will be different.
This is the thing, the management is to manage a scam. It's not that it isn't nice to look at and that it has a bunch of ok stuff in it. It's that what they promise is impossible to deliver. At least until someone else develops ways to achieve it. CIg focusses on jpg sales and making money. Fine. But they should just stop promising the stuffs they cant do. (which is a lot). CR was a visionary right after he saw Star Wars and played Elite. He had the ability to fix complex code with a single key press, while looking at a camera. But now? Visionary skills applied to taking money and delivering nothing. Perfectionist? Nothing is perfect, from a certain point of view so he's delivering that.
Ahh, some clarity. You've thrown in the towel and now want others to spend towards CIg, so they've thrown in the towel too.
No, you paid for a pledge, right? Can you actually buy the game? And are you still on the whole FDev is asking for money than CIG? What a troll lol.
I'd say FDev is heading in the right direction with Odyssey, etc, yes? We want those awesome jpgs too, in addition to all the amazing stuffs the game has already.
What is the state of that? I got an Aurora package way back in the day. At that time, I was under the impression it was a pledge. Is that different now? Or is it now considered buying an Aurora? Are there actual things to buy, or is it all pledges? Or is it a mix where some of it is pledging, some of it is buying?
I ask, because if you buy something, like Odyssey, it's different than pledging towards promises. The SC scam exists, to me, because what they promise, I dont believe they can deliver. But if they sell the game, no matter what they promise, you can only buy what is present. Buyer beware always, but you own it, no matter its state.
In reality, that means Neil Armstrongs name is on the moon hehe and an ameoba for Earth named Frank...probably still around.
Yes, yes I am…
No PvP slider
No private servers
No SQ404
The features I backed will not be delivered… specially a feature that CR was asked countless if tumes and he said yes… don’t worry we’ll have…
It was all said to get money from people. To make them think that this was just around the corner. That is why it's important to bring it up. Reading posts on Spectrum, it seems that some are now realising it. There are still posts getting deleted by mods though for rocking the spaceship too much.
One of the great things about ED is the galaxy itself is a persistent object (disregarding stuff FDEV changes for storytelling, introducing new features or improving existing features like terrain) so that stuff players do like discover, map and walk on planets remain as part of the galaxy forever. That's why whenever FDEV does change some major stuff, like the terrain from Horizons to Odyssey, there's a big noise made by the community, the same happened during a few updates a couple of years back when volcanic features moved around.
But regardless of changes to terrain, your name will remain as discoverer and mapper (as long as you sell the data of course) and first footfall is yours whether or not you have sold any data, that's managed by a different process apparently!
Come meet me!
I'm down here!
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I'm down here!
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Come meet me!
I'm down here!
EDSM - Elite Dangerous Star Map
The Galactic Positioning System of Elite: Dangerous at your service.
Hah, funny how EDSM can tell your game life story.
Mainly lived in the bubble. Once went 5000 LY to unlock an engineer. First time out exploring.
This is mine. Unfortunately i did a lot of exploring before i started EDSM. Some of it was recovered from journals and entered into EDSM via put commands. That's mainly the red lines. And then there were periods where i wasn't updating due to technical issues,
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Hasn't helped with the "No, you are never getting the CM4."
People always think they're special.
What's an unpaid shill? A fan? I'm not entirely clear. I thought shill is a shill.
The Conniving Roots of Shill
Someone who shills today may very well be employed to simply extol the wonders of legitimate products. But in the early 1900s, when the first uses of the verb shill were documented, it was more likely that anyone hired to shill was trying to con you into parting with some cash. Practitioners called shills did everything from faking big wins at casinos (to promote gambling) to pretending to buy tickets (to encourage people to see certain shows). Shill is thought to be a shortened form of shillaber, but etymologists have found no definitive evidence of where that longer term originated.
There is a dictionary definition.
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Eventually. This has been precisely a bit of a flawed argument for a long time already when comparing with ED, or with many games with DLC for that matter. The problem with SC is that it has been 10 years already and that « eventually » of yours is still many years away. 100 systems, jumping, quanta, subsumption AI, farming, repair, exploration, alien races etc etc etc etc. And the pitiful bits that we are allowed to test in the mean time are still thoroughly broken after all that time.
Now, with Elite today you can buy the original base game, Horizons and Odyssey for the price of a single game. Less even if you time your purchase with any of the sales during the year. And assuming we get further DLC in the future, similarly if you wait, eventually you will be able to buy the whole lot for the price of a single game or less.
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