State of the Game

LeoBartlet

LeoBartlet
Morbad said:
I don't think Voyager did a very good job with the execution of the 'stranded far from home' concept. It was mostly a string of deus ex machinas and marginal character development to go along with it.

That said, even Voyager is high-art compared to Kurtzman's stuff. I liked about half of the first season of Discovery, but it rapidly got worse from there. As for Picard, as an attempt at sci-fi action adventure, I give it a 3.5 out of ten, but it was one of the dumbest takes on and most inane retconning of the Star Trek universe ever and I find it hard to believe that Kurtzman ever did more than five minutes of research into the franchise before unwittingly deciding to torpedo it. 1/10 Trek...with the bonus points from the few token references an callbacks that didn't get mangled.
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The first half of Disco was the strongest it ever was or has been due in no small part to Jason Isaacs performance. I hoped at the time we would get a morally ambiguous Starfleet officer but they had to change him mid-season to a leather-clad mirror universe imposter. After that, I lost all hope that Disco would even pretend to be a Trek show.

I'll say that Saru and to an extent Stamets are some of the best Trek characters going but the writers who have a Burham fetish have done as much as they can to hobble both charters without killing them off. Also, Tilly is Ensign Kim and that's a hill I'll happily die on.
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
LeoBartlet said:
Tilly is Ensign Kim and that's a hill I'll happily die on.
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Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
LeoBartlet said:
There was an image released before season 6 that seems to indicate they'll have another lasagne moment that bonds the crew.
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I hated how they are handling not having Alex about, its tiresome as well as a waste of storytelling time after S5 and the excessive Naominess. They should have kept Bull (because he's got actual presence) and lessened the animosity as its a distraction. Before I watched the new episode I rewatched S5 E10 and it was jarring how Peaches being let on the ship was almost a comedic moment with Holdens face.

I miss Jared Harris, because I'd love him to be against Marco- Marco has the charisma but Dawes has the brains, and seeing how they fall out like they did in the book would be an excellent Ceres B story material.

But I'll give it the benefit of the doubt but it makes me wince a bit watching. Its not bad, but its not really treating its lack of runtime with the urgency it demands.
 

LeoBartlet

LeoBartlet
Rubbernuke said:
I hated how they are handling not having Alex about, its tiresome as well as a waste of storytelling time after S5 and the excessive Naominess. They should have kept Bull (because he's got actual presence) and lessened the animosity as its a distraction. Before I watched the new episode I rewatched S5 E10 and it was jarring how Peaches being let on the ship was almost a comedic moment with Holdens face.

I miss Jared Harris, because I'd love him to be against Marco- Marco has the charisma but Dawes has the brains, and seeing how they fall out like they did in the book would be an excellent Ceres B story material.

But I'll give it the benefit of the doubt but it makes me wince a bit watching. Its not bad, but its not really treating its lack of runtime with the urgency it demands.
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They've been killing Free Navy for 160 days and have not managed to iron out their differences in all that time. Also, yea it's jarring that Peaches was introduced as a comedic moment and the only one who seems to still have an issue with it is Naomi.

Also not really happy with the so yea I killed Dawes throw away line we got from Inaros.

They really should've spent more time establishing Marcos as a narcissistic sociopath instead of spending most of last season while him pouting because his son still loved his mummy. They made some headway in the first episode with him basically saying frack you to Ceres station but this is a 6 episode season and he'll die in the 6th episode probably.
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
LeoBartlet said:
They've been killing Free Navy for 160 days and have not managed to iron out their differences in all that time. Also, yea it's jarring that Peaches was introduced as a comedic moment and the only one who seems to still have an issue with it is Naomi.

Also not really happy with the so yea I killed Dawes throw away line we got from Inaros.

They really should've spent more time establishing Marcos as a narcissistic sociopath instead of spending most of last season while him pouting because his son still loved his mummy. They made some headway in the first episode with him basically saying frack you to Ceres station but this is a 6 episode season and he'll die in the 6th episode probably.
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I think IMO the writers focus on the wrong things, not only because they are trying to compress an awful lot of emotional development into too small a space. For example they duplicated the Roci angst with Drummer- now, they could have stripped one back and used that time for more important things.

Hopefully Filips arc resolves sooner and not at the end (after all he walks away and takes his mums name) too, because once again the emotional stuff eats up time.

Will have Book 9 tomorrow so I can at least calm down a bit.
 

LeoBartlet

LeoBartlet
Rubbernuke said:
I think IMO the writers focus on the wrong things, not only because they are trying to compress an awful lot of emotional development into too small a space. For example they duplicated the Roci angst with Drummer- now, they could have stripped one back and used that time for more important things.

Hopefully Filips arc resolves sooner and not at the end (after all he walks away and takes his mums name) too, because once again the emotional stuff eats up time.

Will have Book 9 tomorrow so I can at least calm down a bit.
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Yea I can't say I'm even remotely interested in Filips arc.
 

Rubbernuke

Rubbernuke
LeoBartlet said:
Yea I can't say I'm even remotely interested in Filips arc.
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I kind of wished they'd get Filip to go in the first episode really, because then it would set up Marcos descent into instability and desperation.

I'm more intrigued at how they will resolve / park the 'big picture' story with the ring aliens / Laconia.

But we will see.
 
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