Stuttering, almost a year later......
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To OP - I just accept it as the norm, now, kinda got used to it
Too bad it's become accepted by us and FD. It really does suck badly.
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Yes, it does. Maybe not entirely but, connect does play a part. In ED anyway it does.
Internet connection has a lot to do with the game's performance because it's a peer to peer setup. Other people's computers are splitting the load across the network.
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It's been almost a year. Filling up a thread with weak excuses isn't going to make it go away.
I know for a fact the problem isn't being ignored. FD is very passionate about this game. They're a smaller team than what would normally be on a game this size. Consider for a moment that we know most of the developers by name - even with companies like Keen, you usually only know a few. As a result, they have a smaller focus area, and right now their focus is on content. This isn't a weak excuse. It's a fact. You get a long period of just performance tweaks, a long period of just content additions, or a period of a mix of both, but not as much of either. Right now we're in mode 3.
If they weren't adding new content you'd be one of the people complaining about how they've obviously forgotten about the game because all they're doing is meaningless performance tweaks. I don't believe you actually want to see the facts and I've already been chided for running out of patience here, so I'm disengaging from this conversation.
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It's normal, and to be expected. Rest assured that it'll bug the heck out of Frontier's developers and they'll be working on fixing it. Just not to your timetable, I'm afraid.
So you *do* understand. Certain bugs, even when reproducible, are incredibly difficult to get to the bottom of. Without fully understanding the cause of them, you can never be sure that you've squashed them -- putting in a workaround could lead to the problem being hidden or moved elsewhere, and might even make the problem worse.
From my earlier list, I'm mostly referring to the microstutter issue here. The planetary stutter is entirely unrelated, the cause known, and probably requires a major reworking of the procedural generation logic for planet surfaces. I'd hoped this one at least would have improved by now, but I also understand that there are probably already changes afoot in that department and duplication of effort is something that developers tend to avoid. If it's no better in 1.3, I'd question whether it *would* be worth doing something about in the short-term.
What are you trying to do here? Are you trying to say after almost a year it's OK and to be expected that these issues are still in-game? If so, that's rubbish.
This problem has been complained about forever. I get the stuttering when I'm showing 80-100 fps. Most of the youtube videos show people with the same stuttering. There are so many threads about it I can't believe someone jumps on here and tries to say it's an individual problem with certain people's computers. I tend to now believe it is a p2p issue and it's never going to go away unless p2p goes away. It happens for everyone in the same type of circumstances near planets, in RES's or during hyperspace jumps. It happens when I play open, group or solo. There does not need to be anyone near me for it to happen.
What was FD's "focus" a year ago? Why is this still an issue almost a year later?. You know a handful of the devs names, how many devs are working on ED? Can you name half of them? No?
Stop making excuses, this should have been fixed months ago, if it can't be fixed then say so and we'll all move on.
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I dunno, I am not so sure. I find it happens more in busy systems with more CMDRs in than in busy systems with just AI.
but either way, calling out someone as speaking nonsense for suggesting it may be related to network is harsh imo.
For me its not a game breaker by any stretch, even in the rift, but then I have not experienced it as bad as some... but it IS there.
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My hyperspace stuttering stops when I turn all the graphics settings to low.
No. I'm trying to explain rationally why certain bugs take longer to fix than others, and yes, may even take a year. I'm sorry if that doesn't fit with your world view, but there's not much more that I can say to appease you.
I only get "stuttering" occasionally when leaving hyperspace and I haven't a high powered CPU , GFX or internet speed.
I get a lot of stutter and split freezing in cruise near most planets etc using the rift since day one and now take it for granted thats it's part of the game.
it's not net conection as i have a good 240 meg line and it's also the same on two other net conections, one is fibre, one is adsl and the other is mobile phone so totaly different but same issue remains.
Pc is a power house, intel 4960x @4Ghz with 16 gigs xmp ram with 2 780's all under water. I have also reiinstalled from win 7 to win 8 and problem persists. So the problem is there reguardless of net connection and software, only thing common is running elite and it's the only game that has this issue.
it's not net conection as i have a good 240 meg line and it's also the same on two other net conections, one is fibre, one is adsl and the other is mobile phone so totaly different but same issue remains.
Pc is a power house, intel 4960x @4Ghz with 16 gigs xmp ram with 2 780's all under water. I have also reiinstalled from win 7 to win 8 and problem persists. So the problem is there reguardless of net connection and software, only thing common is running elite and it's the only game that has this issue.
Okay that's enough bickering.
Cooling off time.
Cooling off time.
Conceding your superior knowledge in this area, perhaps you can then explain why when testing wings, my group found that one player consistently introduced lag into any wings game play when he participated. We then discovered that had substantially lower bandwidth than anyone else in our group. he voluntarily withdrew from joining wings acknowledging that the problems were most likely due to his poor bandwidth.
It's highly unlikely that any two players logged in to an Open Play instance have identical internal network hardware which alone can cause issues prior to getting into ISP differences.
But, if in your expert opinion, this cannot be an issue, I will consider myself to have been so instructed and refrain from further input in this regard.
Thank you so much for correcting my erroneous assumptions.
I may not be able to post again for some time as I will now have to contact all the clients I have advised over the last 30 years and offer them refunds. If you'll send me your contact information I will refer them to you, so they can get the proper assistance they may need correcting all the mistakes I have made.
You are eligible for the proper security clearances, right?
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In Options > Graphics. Near the top of the page.
When I get the stuttering on my BT infinity 2 line, the load on my NVidia 980 drops to zero.