I agree. We have an mmo with less than ideal tools in game. The fact that people out of their own time want to use their skills to help other players is wonderfull. The least Frontier should have is a full time employee to keep those who works for free, happy.
#support3rdparty - Why we temporarily shut down our sites.
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I agree. We have an mmo with less than ideal tools in game. The fact that people out of their own time want to use their skills to help other players is wonderfull. The least Frontier should have is a full time employee to keep those who works for free, happy.
Whilst I support the idea of F D paying more attention to the API and the 3Pdevs, I do think that people logged-in to the sites they have stumped up money in a donation towards should still have access. Just a bit annoyed here, not too bothered but hey-ho it's the internet innit?
Howard is great, but he's only sporadically available for helping us. What the guys want is some sort of information on what they are doing and what may break the tools all the time.
The irony of this tweet on the ED twitter feed today was not lost on me....
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so they have taken down their sites for fun, for love, and the hobby. not for a paycheck, job ego boost. they havnt stated what it is exactly they want, and support is not an ansew
I get it. As third-party developers, you need to know that your time and effort is worth something. You need to know that if you find a bug, or if something changes you have a channel to the developers to query it in reasonable time. You don't currently have that and it needs to change.
What I *don't* get is why I didn't see a post such as the OP outlining all this, with a plea to open a better dialogue with a reasonable timeframe, lest services be removed. You'd have gotten a similar reaction from the community (who are generally behind you) but with a lot less of the acrimony around both the timing and that it's basically zero-notice.
Yes, strikes work. But generally they're given with reasonable notice to allow dialogue to take place and to allow consumers to make alternative arrangements.
The bingoneers would be a (even bigger) Hell hole, without Inara.cz. [yesnod]
I agree with that Monk, I really do but this is attention grabbing, throwing the baby out with the bath water arrogant and disruptive as possible nonsense.
Engineers weren't even up to date on Inara for awhile now.
It's the 27th today.
Maybe you do rely on them. But maybe you shouldn't.
And you certainly don't need to.
Adapt, overcome, evolve, learn.
This thread is actually quite funny and revealing, as I suspect '84'ers' will be wondering what all the fuss is about, whereas the 'young'uns' can't survive without t'intenet*.
Fascinating.... and all part of Ed's cunning social experiment.... or is it Tj????... let's be honest, I've never seem them both in the same room at the same time... ...just saying!!
* Apologies if anyone finds themselves offended by these terms. And if you are, grow up.
Tell me friend, do you use this thing called "The Internet"? It's pretty neat and most of the content and the software supporting it is provided free of charge and survives on donations.
People who have donated (myself included) are the mostly likely to make a stink about it. A stink is what they want and a stink has occurred.
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I won't pay for a companion app. I'll pay to have the tools in-game, but only when those tools have been developed and exist, ready for play. I'm done paying for promises.
As the wise man, Lucky Day, once said - "No dough, no show."
I continue to be utterly stunned at the attitude of those people who somehow think these guys are doing something wrong.
'The only people they're hurting is other players'
'The sites are luxury and are not needed. If the site makes any profit, then FDEV sees none of it. '
These two statements pretty much sum up everything that is wrong with the attitude of everyone who somehow sees these as profit-gouging sites, thieving from the pockets of Frontier.
Apart from the fact I have NEVER seen ANY of these sites beg for donations, they never assume they are part of Frontier, they don't abuse any trademark, they certainly don't make profit. It's a ridiculous statement made by ignorant people.
The hypocrisy I see in regards to these people, with INARA signatures, just make me sad for the western human race. How about you guys remove these signatures, just to show your disdain for these people who have done nothing to you, and yet you feel obliged to somehow belittle - as if they owe you something.
This 'community' is getting worse by the day. I feel sorry for those who are able to see and understand the bigger picture, and don't just disagree because they 'can'.
'The only people they're hurting is other players'
'The sites are luxury and are not needed. If the site makes any profit, then FDEV sees none of it. '
These two statements pretty much sum up everything that is wrong with the attitude of everyone who somehow sees these as profit-gouging sites, thieving from the pockets of Frontier.
Apart from the fact I have NEVER seen ANY of these sites beg for donations, they never assume they are part of Frontier, they don't abuse any trademark, they certainly don't make profit. It's a ridiculous statement made by ignorant people.
The hypocrisy I see in regards to these people, with INARA signatures, just make me sad for the western human race. How about you guys remove these signatures, just to show your disdain for these people who have done nothing to you, and yet you feel obliged to somehow belittle - as if they owe you something.
This 'community' is getting worse by the day. I feel sorry for those who are able to see and understand the bigger picture, and don't just disagree because they 'can'.
Well that hasn't stopped - any oil company, Microsoft, or countless others from doing these sorts of things.. it only takes one lawyer or shareholder to catch the scent of money....
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