I just hope they completely rework how they spawn at the matrix sites, it's a bit ridiculous that they can appear at will out of the ground around you (exactly like scavengers do at thargoid structures) and can see/shoot through obstacles and terrain...
Thargoid invasion - Next target systems?
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Trophy time! With heartfelt thanks to the splendid combined effort at M. Hadad, we have the new strongest system estimated at 29892:
Our target after the start of the next cycle will be Col 285 Sector RH-B b14-2 nearby; weaker, although it will become the new closest system.
Noted and listed! If we reach the week after next (5 of October) and the Resolute is still in position and needing deliveries, you can expect that to be complete before the weekend.
Our target after the start of the next cycle will be Col 285 Sector RH-B b14-2 nearby; weaker, although it will become the new closest system.
Noted and listed! If we reach the week after next (5 of October) and the Resolute is still in position and needing deliveries, you can expect that to be complete before the weekend.
I was keeping an eye on it for the last few hours(and in the afternoon) to see when completion followed. And intended to ask whether I remember correctly that it would be the hardest recapture to date.
Congratulations are certainly in order. Doing that in a week sure is a mean feat. Here’s to hoping the Thargoids don’t wreck all that work when we begin to tickle the Titans with the sub-surface recovery missiles…
Victories in Arietis Sector MX-U c2-18, Montioch, HIPs 7338 and 38718, Col 285 Sectors SS-H b11-0, RH-B b14-5 and ZE-P c6-10, and Ceti Sector ZU-Y b1!
Omumba is doing surprisingly well now that it all counts for next week, although at around a sixth per day it would need a lot extra today for completion. HIP 19157 may be close; there is then a preference for skipping HIP 11111, but with a few other Invasions approaching that may not matter much in the end. Unfortunately Iduni is not quite moving quickly enough for INIV to schedule it this evening, which may change if it reaches 60–70% in the meantime.
Alerts at 06:30 27th September 3309, Wednesday caution:
HIP 19157 Alert 64% *64.8% — Indra 22 Ly, 705 Ls starport, 1277 Ls outpost, 217 Ls planet
Trailing:
HIP 11111 Alert 34% *34.7% — Oya 24 Ly, 2567 Ls outpost, 2474 Ls planet, Invasion requested
HIP 20890 Alert 28% *28.2% — Indra 22 Ly, 1609 Ls outpost, 6876 Ls planet
Unlikely:
HIP 25679 Alert 14% *14.3% — Taranis 17 Ly, 76 Ls outpost, 1960 Ls planet
HIP 20616 Alert 10% — Indra 22 Ly, 176k Ls planet
Invasion, surplus:
Omumba Invasion 68% *69.7% — Hadad 14 Ly, 4 ports, 1836 Ls planet attack
Evictions, unlikely:
HIP 8525 Control 32% — Oya 18 Ly, 6225 strength
Iduni Control 30% — Raijin 22 Ly, 2361 strength
Clean-up:
Col 285 Sector ZT-F b12-8 Alert 84% — Cocijo 21 Ly, empty
71 Tauri Control 74% *75% — Indra 15 Ly, empty, 766 strength
Omumba is doing surprisingly well now that it all counts for next week, although at around a sixth per day it would need a lot extra today for completion. HIP 19157 may be close; there is then a preference for skipping HIP 11111, but with a few other Invasions approaching that may not matter much in the end. Unfortunately Iduni is not quite moving quickly enough for INIV to schedule it this evening, which may change if it reaches 60–70% in the meantime.
Alerts at 06:30 27th September 3309, Wednesday caution:
HIP 19157 Alert 64% *64.8% — Indra 22 Ly, 705 Ls starport, 1277 Ls outpost, 217 Ls planet
Trailing:
HIP 11111 Alert 34% *34.7% — Oya 24 Ly, 2567 Ls outpost, 2474 Ls planet, Invasion requested
HIP 20890 Alert 28% *28.2% — Indra 22 Ly, 1609 Ls outpost, 6876 Ls planet
Unlikely:
HIP 25679 Alert 14% *14.3% — Taranis 17 Ly, 76 Ls outpost, 1960 Ls planet
HIP 20616 Alert 10% — Indra 22 Ly, 176k Ls planet
Invasion, surplus:
Omumba Invasion 68% *69.7% — Hadad 14 Ly, 4 ports, 1836 Ls planet attack
Evictions, unlikely:
HIP 8525 Control 32% — Oya 18 Ly, 6225 strength
Iduni Control 30% — Raijin 22 Ly, 2361 strength
Clean-up:
Col 285 Sector ZT-F b12-8 Alert 84% — Cocijo 21 Ly, empty
71 Tauri Control 74% *75% — Indra 15 Ly, empty, 766 strength
Victories in Arietis Sectors LM-V b2-3 and JR-V b2-1, Col 285 Sectors ZT-F b12-8, RH-B b14-4 and SH-B b14-2, HIP 19157 and 71 Tauri! Taking special notice of HIPs 20616 and 25679 rushing quickly towards completion and definitely should be checked first if the totals do not match, that becomes fifty systems in a very high-strength week. Aside from those and a second week at Omumba, the others to watch for Invasions are HIPs 11111 and 20890.
Thank you once again to those at M. Hadad! If this is being read or otherwise if the message can be passed on, INIV will be targeting Col 285 Sector RH-B b14-2 next, at which support would be splendid if available and seeking a suitable system. It will be easier than Montioch was, and personally I would prefer it cleared in one week to guard Muruidooges, but we understand if a more attractive-looking target is chosen instead!
Well done very much to all repelling empty Alert systems, with the continued resolute refusal to allow a single one!
Thank you once again to those at M. Hadad! If this is being read or otherwise if the message can be passed on, INIV will be targeting Col 285 Sector RH-B b14-2 next, at which support would be splendid if available and seeking a suitable system. It will be easier than Montioch was, and personally I would prefer it cleared in one week to guard Muruidooges, but we understand if a more attractive-looking target is chosen instead!
Well done very much to all repelling empty Alert systems, with the continued resolute refusal to allow a single one!
Week 44, 28th September 3309
ReportThirty-eight Alerts repelled at Hyades Sectors EB-N b7-0, LY-I b9-5, OT-I b9-1 and GW-W d1-88, Col 285 Sectors KW-M c7-29, OR-B b14-4, KW-M c7-16, JW-M c7-10, RM-B b14-0, BA-P c6-16, OS-T d3-105, WY-F b12-5, UH-C b13-0, OB-E b12-4, SS-H b11-3, TH-C b13-3, JG-O c6-5, SW-D b12-2 and KM-V d2-69, Pegasi Sectors LC-U b3-2, JH-U b3-9 and UK-L a9-0, Arietis Sectors KM-W c1-15, FG-Y d66 and MX-U c2-17, Trianguli Sectors CA-A c15 and EQ-Y b1, 77 Theta-1 Tauri, HIPs 20485 and 20712, Cephei Sectors DQ-Y b1, ZE-A c8, WO-A b4 and BV-Y b2, Hyadum II, Balak, 70 Tauri and Ixbaksha.
Five Invasions defended at HIPs 11111, 20890, 25679 and 20616, and Omumba.
Eight Control evictions at Col 285 Sectors XT-Q c5-6 and RH-B b14-2, Arietis Sector XJ-R b4-1, Hyades Sectors JN-K b8-3 and LX-U d2-95, Tougeir, Mahlina and HIP 110626.
In addition to the defended Invasions, three recaptured systems starting Recovery are Tougeir, Mahlina and HIP 110626.
Targets updated at 06:30 5th October 3309
Liu Huang Control 4% *5.2% — Oya 18 Ly, 9005 strength
Vasupari Control 2% *3.2% — Hadad 18 Ly, 8612 strength
Kurumanit Control 2% *2.6% — Cocijo 20 Ly, 4369 strength
HIP 21261 Control 2% — Indra 20 Ly, 4390 strength
HIP 13179 Control 2% — Oya 15 Ly, 14.7k strength
Operations
Delivery for Tougeir is complete.
Delivery for Col 285 Sector RH-B b14-2 is complete.
Notes
Col 285 Sector XT-Q c5-6 was completed with 458 versus an estimated 457.7, with actual progress 100.7807% and projected strength 454.5, which appears unchanged.
The Alert report lists predicted attackers which can be stopped this week.
Week 43, 21st September 3309
ReportThirty-four Alerts repelled at Pegasi Sectors DG-X c1-6, NY-O a7-1, RE-N a8-0 and OI-S b4-4, Col 285 Sectors YT-F b12-6, NG-E b12-4, UH-C b13-2, NG-E b12-3, KW-M c7-31, PM-B b14-3, SH-B b14-5, RM-B b14-8, SS-H b11-0, ZE-P c6-10, ZT-F b12-8 and SH-B b14-2, Cephei Sectors AF-A c22 and AF-A c21, HIPs 19600, 6694, 10168, 7338, 38718 and 19157, Ebisu, Nu Guang, Hyades Sectors RO-R c4-20, GB-N b7-5 and FB-N b7-3, Arietis Sectors XJ-R b4-2, LM-V b2-3 and JR-V b2-1, Jeng and Ceti Sector ZU-Y b1.
Three Invasions defended at HIP 116360, Njorog and Arietis Sector MX-U c2-18.
Thirteen Control evictions at Arietis Sector LM-V b2-4, Scythia, 79 b Tauri, HIP 22566, Hyades Sectors IM-V c2-11 and ON-S b4-6, Pegasi Sectors TK-L a9-0, HH-U b3-2 and IH-U b3-8, Montioch, Col 285 Sectors RH-B b14-5 and RH-B b14-4, and 71 Tauri.
In addition to the defended Invasions, three recaptured systems starting Recovery are Scythia, HIP 22566 and Montioch.
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I know just about enough to notice that it is not a direct ratio; for example, Control strength becomes mostly flat after 30 Ly, whereas Alert does that after 25 Ly. To get the loosest of ideas though, we have a few Alert strength reports here and here, which I can show you alongside Control strength:
| System | Distance | Alert | Control | C:A Ratio |
| Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-15 | 18.41 Ly | 616 | 1726 | 2.802 |
| Col 285 Sector ZE-P c6-16 | 19.20 Ly | 484 | 1405 | 2.902 |
| Col 285 Sector SS-H b11-4 | 20.31 Ly | 346 | 1046 | 3.023 |
PDES/Op Ida made it their target to attempt clearing prior to invasion - best to ask one of the people in that coalition for their targeting parameters, if you’re interested.
(The DCoH target relay channel, alongside a few others, provide(s) such information fairly reliably, even with the relative low in the war. But that’s usually as far as my insight goes, not being in any of the specific servers of groups participating in that venture.)
Victories in Col 285 Sectors XT-Q c5-6 and KW-M c7-29, Hyades Sectors EB-N b7-0, LY-I b9-5 and OT-I b9-1, Pegasi Sector LC-U b3-2 and Arietis Sector XJ-R b4-1! As foreshadowed a little last week HIP 11111 is moving nicely, and kind thanks to those keeping Omumba moving!
Invasions at 06:40 29th September 3309:
Omumba Invasion 64% *64.4% — Hadad 14 Ly, 3 ports, 41 Ls outpost attack, 1836 Ls planet damage
HIP 11111 Invasion 32% *32.6% — Oya 24 Ly, 2 ports, 2474 Ls 0.11g planet attack
HIP 25679 Invasion 16% *17.4% — Taranis 17 Ly, 4 ports, 2902 Ls 0.18g planet attack
HIP 20890 Invasion 12% *12.6% — Indra 22 Ly, 3 ports, 2983 Ls 0.13g planet attack
HIP 20616 Invasion 6% *6.8% — Indra 22 Ly, 4 ports, 176k Ls 0.4g planet attack
Alert:
HIP 20485 Alert 26% — Indra 21 Ly, 27 Ls starport
Clean-up:
Cephei Sector DQ-Y b1 Alert 76% *76.3% — Oya 18 Ly, empty
77 Theta-1 Tauri Alert 54% — Indra 21 Ly, empty
Information updated! Unfortunately the notion of a harvest wing is still more one of obscurity than of efficacy; relatively few are actually doing it, and those who can deliver 10000 probably also have their own target list. In our case, the list has a specific order to give the lowest total Alert strength!
Does that mean dropping repeatedly by a damaged port is a quick way to destroy a lot of Scythes?
Invasions at 06:40 29th September 3309:
Omumba Invasion 64% *64.4% — Hadad 14 Ly, 3 ports, 41 Ls outpost attack, 1836 Ls planet damage
HIP 11111 Invasion 32% *32.6% — Oya 24 Ly, 2 ports, 2474 Ls 0.11g planet attack
HIP 25679 Invasion 16% *17.4% — Taranis 17 Ly, 4 ports, 2902 Ls 0.18g planet attack
HIP 20890 Invasion 12% *12.6% — Indra 22 Ly, 3 ports, 2983 Ls 0.13g planet attack
HIP 20616 Invasion 6% *6.8% — Indra 22 Ly, 4 ports, 176k Ls 0.4g planet attack
Alert:
HIP 20485 Alert 26% — Indra 21 Ly, 27 Ls starport
Clean-up:
Cephei Sector DQ-Y b1 Alert 76% *76.3% — Oya 18 Ly, empty
77 Theta-1 Tauri Alert 54% — Indra 21 Ly, empty
Information updated! Unfortunately the notion of a harvest wing is still more one of obscurity than of efficacy; relatively few are actually doing it, and those who can deliver 10000 probably also have their own target list. In our case, the list has a specific order to give the lowest total Alert strength!
Does that mean dropping repeatedly by a damaged port is a quick way to destroy a lot of Scythes?
You don’t even need to reset the instance, it seems like they will just keep spawning in. They will, however, also call in interceptors as backup when they begin to face opposition. I have seen up to five of the big guys per instance at the same time so far(running evacs in solo play - may be lower if you are actively killing them and the Scythes as they spawn in).
If the Scythes stop spawning, I never stayed long enough to see that occur, especially since I was only there to run evacs, and in solo play. A combat pilot’s observations there may be different to mine.
Availability of the scenario is also likely to be relatively scarce, given current war state, once Omumba passes. I suppose HIP 20616 might be another good(relatively) place to observe if it goes into week 2, or further. Though I’m not sure how big that if is.
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I took a shieldless hull tank FAS with 4 Azimuth multis and a single escape pod on board and jumped into an Alert. Every couple of minutes in supercruise I was interdicted by Scythes. Either kill till you run out of ammo or take something like a MK II if you want to collect their mats as well. The mats help to unlock more Azimuth multis, and having the xeno scanner on the same button as your guns gets you a scan for your data store.
He was specifically asking about this. The damaged port scenario is not quite so inactive and ‘safe’ any longer.
First time we got to observe this due to general lack of invasions and week one clears.
I wonder if taking certain missions for evac triggers certain events in relation to which Thargoids spawn or somesuch?
Dunno, and don’t think so. The Scythes were always there right as I arrived at the damaged port in Omumba, even before taking missions. And one particular instance I got where no AX defense NPCs spawned, it was only Scythes pestering rescue NPCs up until the point where I left.
I believe this is what was meant when one of Frontier’s people(I don’t recall if it was a dev or one of the community managers) said that there’d be extra activity in places with a damaged/abandoned port. But hoo, it’s something else.
Not necessarily in a bad way - I’ve quite enjoyed the scenario, even if it’s not quite as straightforward as it used to be. Feels more befitting of a Thargoid invasion - aka chaotic and messy. One port gets pounded actively while the other… well, we all know what they are there for when Scythes are present.
I know, and I was saying that if you want to kill just Scythes and especially without their Interceptor chaperones there are better options. A point which went over some heads, it seems.
With the Interceptors might actually be the point. CZ-style combat at damaged ports may be rather useful in Invasions during weeks when outposts are attacked.