Thargoid invasion - Next target systems?

[Aleks Zuno]

Week 104, 21st November 3310​

Maelstrom Cocijo
Control: Reactivated ports are at Qinganu, Nyani and Col 285 Sector OS-T d3-96.
Spire: All gone!
Titan: Coordinate with Operation Thunderstruck for rescue deliveries from Col 285 Sector BA-P c6-18.

Report
Seventeen Control evictions at Qinganu, Col 285 Sectors OS-T d3-96, VY-Q c5-17, VN-H b11-6, VY-Q c5-8, SS-H b11-7, XY-F b12-0, TS-H b11-4, KM-V d2-109, VY-Q c5-12, BA-P c6-20, XY-F b12-3, XY-F b12-5, OS-T d3-69, KM-V d2-53 and US-H b11-3, and Nyani.
Three recaptured systems starting Recovery are Qinganu, Col 285 Sector OS-T d3-96 and Nyani.
The Titan withdrawal gives additional Recovery systems Swahku, HIP 38235 and Col 285 Sector BA-P c6-19.

Targets updated at 06:20 28th November 3310
Col 285 Sector TS-H b11-5 Control 66% *67.6% — Cocijo 20 Ly, 2227 strength
Col 285 Sector TS-H b11-6 Control 44% — Cocijo 21 Ly, 3815 strength
Col 285 Sector KM-V d2-52 Control 30% *31.3% — Cocijo 21 Ly, 4649 strength
Col 285 Sector BA-P c6-19 Control 26% *26.1% — Cocijo 5 Ly
Col 285 Sector VN-H b11-4 Control 24% *24.3% — Cocijo 16 Ly, 5341 strength
Col 285 Sector TS-H b11-0 Control 22% *22.9% — Cocijo 23 Ly, 5174 strength
Col 285 Sector OS-T d3-93 Control 22% *22.1% — Cocijo 10 Ly, 5764 strength
HIP 38235 Control 18% *19.8% — Cocijo 21 Ly
Col 285 Sector VY-Q c5-10 Control 14% *14.3% — Cocijo 15 Ly, 6109 strength
Col 285 Sector SS-H b11-1 Control 12% *13.5% — Cocijo 13 Ly, 6266 strength
Col 285 Sector SS-H b11-6 Control 10% — Cocijo 18 Ly, 6281 strength
Col 285 Sector BA-P c6-11 Control 8% *9% — Cocijo 11 Ly, 6686 strength
Col 285 Sector KM-V d2-114 Control 8% *8.5% — Cocijo 10 Ly, 6762 strength
Col 285 Sector SS-H b11-5 Control 6% *7.5% — Cocijo 20 Ly, 6323 strength
Col 285 Sector XT-Q c5-15 Control 6% *6.9% — Cocijo 19 Ly, 6429 strength
Col 285 Sector VY-Q c5-15 Control 6% *6.8% — Cocijo 14 Ly, 6671 strength
Col 285 Sector XY-F b12-4 Control 6% *6.2% — Cocijo 7 Ly, 7084 strength
Col 285 Sector OS-T d3-92 Control 6% — Cocijo 15 Ly, 6691 strength
Col 285 Sector XT-Q c5-19 Control 4% *4.2% — Cocijo 7 Ly, 7247 strength
Col 285 Sector OS-T d3-126 Control 2% — Cocijo 14 Ly, 7052 strength
Col 285 Sector VN-H b11-7 Control 2% — Cocijo 18 Ly, 6841 strength

Notes
The only remaining source for Tactical Core Chips is HIP 38235, but bring assistance to distract or destroy Interceptors.
The Alert report lists predicted attackers.

Week 103, 14th November 3310​

Report
Two Invasions defended at Laumas and Paitra.
Twenty Control evictions at Col 285 Sectors KM-V d2-69, VN-H b11-5, US-H b11-2, TS-H b11-2, YY-F b12-0, YT-F b12-6, ZE-P c6-10, XY-F b12-6, ZE-P c6-16, SS-H b11-4, VY-Q c5-18, SS-H b11-0, AF-P c6-0, UN-H b11-5, OS-T d3-136, WY-F b12-5, UN-H b11-3, UN-H b11-4, ZE-P c6-15 and OS-T d3-137.
One Matrix system cleared at Col 285 Sector OS-T d3-143.
In addition to the defended Invasions, one recaptured system starting Recovery is Col 285 Sector KM-V d2-69.

 

[Neestar]

Right now, none are active and the only location to find Banshees (a single one per spawn, does not respawn) and Revenants is in HIP 38235 at military Odyssey settlements.

ahhh ok , well thanks for that intel CMDR, cuz now at least i can go test my mettle against those pesky Banshees---err singular Banshee!

It is indeed that chamber again, although it has two purposes—as you know, feeding it Guardian Relics converts them into Unclassified Relics, but you can feed it instead a Thargoid Sensor, Probe and Link to obtain a quite different result! The Sensor and Probe will need to be flown in from elsewhere, and mind that they are corrosive.

WOW i never even knew anything about this extra/other "result" !!! i'm def. gonna try this method later tonite then using my anti-corrosion cargobay i fortunately earned from that recent CQ a few weeks ago. -- Anyways, THANKS much! ( and thanks for phrasing it in such a way to avoid too much spoiler-ishness yep )

Probably not forever, but for the moment, yes. There may be a chance of getting one more Spire site next week,

bummer for me then yeah here's hoping there's either one more active Spire next week , or someday somewhere somehow in the future after 8th Titan falls or whatever.

Otherwise, unfortunately for me & my bad timing , the closest i got to ACTIVE Spire was this screenshot....

...and a few green blobs ( ship disrupter fields i presume? ) firing at me before i had to fly outta there to logout safely ( re: immediate server shutdown/maintenance )

As you can see i was in such a hurry like a newb that i forgot to bring my correct AX cooling ship ( aka under 20% heat ) . But i shall be better prepared next time; if there is one.

 

[Aleks Zuno]

Right now, none are active and the only location to find Banshees (a single one per spawn, does not respawn) and Revenants is in HIP 38235 at military Odyssey settlements.

ahhh ok , well thanks for that intel CMDR, cuz now at least i can go test my mettle against those pesky Banshees---err singular Banshee!

Mind that there will be also Cyclops Interceptors arriving! Unlike a Spire site, they just appear to defend it rather than as a specific response (to destroying many Orthrus Interceptors, or a Basilisk arriving in response to a Spire sabotage).

If you are collecting Tactical Core Chips, note that the Revenants also provide them—if you can get another Commander to keep the sky clear while your collectors work!

 

[Phill P]

Wait, what exactly is the "Star Map" ???

Try what Aleks said. Bring the relevant items to a site, put them in the right slots then scan the structure.

Spoiler below but it's not like seeing it yourself.

Source: https://youtu.be/ylOQDL3C8VY

 

[Felix DiCestria]

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... However i'm wondering if that ^ means i actually indeed recorded as "the FIRST" player to discover??? ( i'm assuming it's either a mistake bug or just means "first" in that particular region/site/system ?? )

okay quick question please: Any possibility if there's still maybe one ACTIVE Spire site at the moment? Because last nite, after i finished checking the inactive version , i tried to hustle over to that previously mentioned Col 285 Sector OS-T d3-143 location....but....unfortunately just as i reached the spot, the onscreen server msg said "server shutdown" and i ran out of time to explore or fight Banshees or whatever. ( ugh )

Have i totally lost my chance forever?

No, none; the only previous Spire system still active in any way is HIP 25654 close to the wreckage of T. Taranis, however the Spire itself probably will not be in service because the system became Control again due to a normal attack.




Probably not forever, but for the moment, yes. There may be a chance of getting one more Spire site next week, noting that there has always been a one-week gap between a Titan losing all Spires and then choosing later to retreat three systems and take one Spire back again, where this week 104 is indeed that gap-week.

Such is not guaranteed though, in which case it becomes a question of what comes after the war and whether there will be future Spire sites and Titans elsewhere which can be visited.

You aren't the first to sample, my Main has sampled every one of the Spires and yes you get the bonus for all of them, though never the system map entries.
HIP 25654 is inactive though there atre 'Goids in the system.
If you want Banshees or Revenants there is HIP 38235 with military settlements.

 

[Kayvan]

Goodness gracious, the goids got CRUSHED in Qinganu. That felt really quick. Didn't systems closer than 10ly from the Titan used to be extra hard? Well here they rolled over like a kitten.
Col 285 Sector OS-T d3-96 appears less convenient because the base is 8000 clicks out, but with SCO it's not a problem. Gotta say without SCO I wouldn't have gone there.

 

[Kira Goto]

Didn't systems closer than 10ly from the Titan used to be extra hard?

At least five times as strong but the rebalance that occurred roughly after Hadad fell cut that down significantly for the inner systems. As tradeoff that systems past the 20ly line got a significant boost to their respective strength.

... I also learned that Banshees are still vulnerable to a Scorpion driving beneath them to their blind spot and they (at least near an Odyssey settlement) kinda don't seem to know what to do then. But beware that mobility might be a bit lacking if it launches a bomb barrage.

 

[Leadfoot]

WOW i never even knew anything about this extra/other "result" !!! i'm def. gonna try this method later tonite then using my anti-corrosion cargobay i fortunately earned from that recent CQ a few weeks ago. -- Anyways, THANKS much! ( and thanks for phrasing it in such a way to avoid too much spoiler-ishness yep )

Just an fyi, if you have the ability to record the gameplay make sure that you start that before you drop the last of the three items in the correct slot. You will be glad you did.

 

[Felix DiCestria]

Which they've yet to explain why the technology only started doing that after the Proteus Wave fired instead of all along, getting destroyed prior. It also seems like a bit of a loose plot point/plot hole that the Thargoids remain oblivious to the relics or their functionality/the nanites despite their obvious interest in them - unhappy Interceptor reaction but it will collect an Unclassified Relic rather than destroy it - and that those crashed ships/surface sites seem to remain connected to the hivemind in some way, as apparently activating one can occasionally cause an Interceptor to drop by and take a look around. The one time I did it was event free aside from the activation.

It's also still unclear just how the Thargoids subverted the Proteus Wave mechanism to their ends. Assuming that it even is what they did but the thing's still radiating weird energy to this day.

Might be the wrong way round, not the Thargoids adapting to the relics, but the Guardian AI learnt something about the Thargoids from whatever Wycherley did.

 

[Kira Goto]

Might be the wrong way round, not the Thargoids adapting to the relics, but the Guardian AI learnt something about the Thargoids from whatever Wycherley did.

That assumes A, that they are paying attention to this conflict (which is actually quite likely, providing they are out there), and B... that they still even care about the Thargoids, which is less likely, or at least not on the war footing which they had previously (although, I think, technically the sentient Constructs came after the Guardian-Thargoid war... if memory serves). Sure, they were programmed to fight Thargoids, but I doubt the Guardians programmed a desire to destroy its creators into their own AI. So for all we know, they might not be looking to wage war on the Thargoids and have written that out of their programs.

... or they consider such a war to be prohibitively costly and have come to the logical conclusion that simply keeping distance between them and the Thargoids is preferable*, if a conflict can at all be avoided. In which case they are probably shaking their heads (or whatever the equivalent on their bodies may be) at our stupidity.

Speaking of the Constructs, does anybody have news on Nemesis? (Or as we should call it, Salvation's latest doohickey that is sure to work out this time and not backfire spectacularly in any kind of way again.)

*I guess there is that group of Thargoids which appeared to be monitoring - or possibly studying - an ancient ruin where a battle had occurred between them and the Guardians, but there's no way to tell whether the Guardian AI would even have been aware of it. Most likely, not. And despite GalNet's insistence that those Thargoids were different [from the ones invading the Bubble], Frontier have yet to even throw out another hint about them.

 

[Felix DiCestria]

There is the factor of the Maelstroms, Orthrus and Glaives being strongly anti-Guardian. Far more so than the standard interceptors. Plus as you mention the Wregoe site which otherwise seems unconnected. Add to which they didn't seem particularly focused on hitting anything vital in the Bubble. Only the Scythes and pods were specifically focused on humans.
Going down this path indicates a possible strike at Meene or that Azimuth ship in Guardian space.

 

[Phill P]

Speaking of the Constructs, does anybody have news on Nemesis? (Or as we should call it, Salvation's latest doohickey that is sure to work out this time and not backfire spectacularly in any kind of way again.)

Sirius eventually get their hands on Utopia's theories about how Salvation may have achieved consciousness transfer. They build their own prototype and when they turn it on to test it for the first time they download Salvation by accident.

 

[Kira Goto]

that Azimuth ship in Guardian space.

Eternal Vigilance, or do you mean that monthly(?) ferry from the supposed Zende Partners totally not theorizing they are one of the many Azimuth fronts which goes back and forth between Guardian space and Bubble?

... and they might strike at Meene, but at the same time I'm sure if the Thargoids want to have any chance at extending this current Titan's lifecycle past early-mid December, striking nanite torpedo production and storage facilities (and/or maybe the rescue megaships) would be one of their better bets. But somehow I doubt they actually care that much for keeping the Titans functional... seeing how there would have been better ways to than their behavior these last few months, like using their spires [very likely providing materials for ship construction] when it weakens their overall position by dedicating a higher defensive focus to them (and not using them to reinforce other existing positions).

Let's just say, it won't surprise me if there is a sudden wave of mass Thargoid strikes à la Shinrarta in various Bubble locations that players may find of interest come a week or three from here (if they are waiting for Cocijo to go before kicking it off, but if they want to use it they'd have to do it next week or in two, if they find the resources [aka are willing to provide them] to keep it from falling apart like a card house in wind).

Sirius eventually get their hands on Utopia's theories about how Salvation may have achieved consciousness transfer. They build their own prototype and when they turn it on to test it for the first time they download Salvation by accident.

That... would be really funny, actually.

But I'd still like to know what Pranav and Seo found out and why it would be so terribly bad that they have to hide it from the public and divert with a call for human unity instead of continuing to bicker among one another (which of course was never going to happen)... at least, I would like to give Seo the benefit of a doubt by thinking it wasn't just her sulking about not being told what she wanted to hear. I suppose part of it could be not giving Azimuth as easy of a time catching on, but if Nemesis poses a serious danger, maybe people should know about it.

Does anybody really want a repeat of the arrival of the Titans?

 

[Felix DiCestria]

Eternal Vigilance, or do you mean that monthly(?) ferry from the supposed Zende Partners totally not theorizing they are one of the many Azimuth fronts which goes back and forth between Guardian space and Bubble?

... and they might strike at Meene, but at the same time I'm sure if the Thargoids want to have any chance at extending this current Titan's lifecycle past early-mid December, striking nanite torpedo production and storage facilities (and/or maybe the rescue megaships) would be one of their better bets. But somehow I doubt they actually care that much for keeping the Titans functional... seeing how there would have been better ways to than their behavior these last few months, like using their spires [very likely providing materials for ship construction] when it weakens their overall position by dedicating a higher defensive focus to them (and not using them to reinforce other existing positions).

Let's just say, it won't surprise me if there is a sudden wave of mass Thargoid strikes à la Shinrarta in various Bubble locations that players may find of interest come a week or three from here (if they are waiting for Cocijo to go before kicking it off, but if they want to use it they'd have to do it next week or in two, if they find the resources [aka are willing to provide them] to keep it from falling apart like a card house in wind).

That... would be really funny, actually.

But I'd still like to know what Pranav and Seo found out and why it would be so terribly bad that they have to hide it from the public and divert with a call for human unity instead of continuing to bicker among one another (which of course was never going to happen)... at least, I would like to give Seo the benefit of a doubt by thinking it wasn't just her sulking about not being told what she wanted to hear. I suppose part of it could be not giving Azimuth as easy of a time catching on, but if Nemesis poses a serious danger, maybe people should know about it.

Does anybody really want a repeat of the arrival of the Titans?

Eternal Vigilance.
If they wanted to extend the life of Cocijo developing immunity to Nanites would be more effective.
The Thargoids of course have the memory of the conversation with Pranav, partly why I lean towards a strike vs. some Azimuth facilities.

 

[Phill P]

But I'd still like to know what Pranav and Seo found out and why it would be so terribly bad that they have to hide it from the public

Maybe it wasn't terribly bad but simply a theory that would still need the technology to put into practice so the info by itself is useless until someone can figure out how to make it work. As with hyperspace before it, it's one thing to theorise about how it works and quite another to make a ship that can travel through it.

There is the factor of the Maelstroms, Orthrus and Glaives being strongly anti-Guardian. Far more so than the standard interceptors. Plus as you mention the Wregoe site which otherwise seems unconnected. Add to which they didn't seem particularly focused on hitting anything vital in the Bubble. Only the Scythes and pods were specifically focused on humans.
Going down this path indicates a possible strike at Meene or that Azimuth ship in Guardian space.

That war must have been vicious. Even a million years later each race's tech still reacts in a hostile way to the presence of the other.

Eternal Vigilance.
If they wanted to extend the life of Cocijo developing immunity to Nanites would be more effective.

Unless they don't care or are leaving that for a later date. Or need time to do it that they don't have right now.

The Thargoids of course have the memory of the conversation with Pranav, partly why I lean towards a strike vs. some Azimuth facilities.

Yes, although I personally think it will be out of practicality rather than revenge. A smart move to punish without the emotional need or desire to punish.

Extreme tinfoil below.

Spoiler

We have been told repeatedly that they neither know nor appear to care about our political and social structures. So why is them getting knowledge from Seo Jin-Ae suddenly so newsworthy and important and in her words given them enough to be "done with her" and "planning something"? As opposed to, for example, being incomprehensible noise to them which it just as easily could have been?

Perhaps after the Proteus Wave they have decided it might be a good idea after all to find out more about us.

They came to a part of space occupied by us. Invaded systems occupied by us. Eventually stopped taking over uninhabited systems and focused on systems populated by us.

The only common factor in everywhere they have attacked so far is that people are there. Uninhabited systems have only been used as a springboard into inhabited ones.

They came not for our ships or technology or military or economy or even for revenge, but for us.

The Titans are sent as a result of Salvation's actions but not in retaliation for them. Instead they came to gather as many people as possible in the hope of connecting to someone telepathically and learning about, for want of a better term, our mindset. Not simply what we do but the psychology behind it. What made him do what he did. By the time Tesreau heard about the abductions stepping up they'd been going on for months. Let's say since the Titans arrived because that was their real purpose all along.

Perhaps only one in several billion people has the right sort of mind and that's why they abducted so many. Prepared to risk every Titan to get just one human they could "talk" to, which is why they have sat there and let us knock them over instead of retreating as soon as we got a weapon that could kill them.

But none of the people they abducted could give them the connection they wanted and they finally got it from Seo Jin-Ae. She describes it as being scraped out of her head which is pretty disturbing, and yet another clue that the Thargoids don't do subtle. So now they know what she knows about humans. What they might have done if we had destroyed all the Titans before they found out what they wanted, who knows. Sent another 8?

Maybe the reason they could connect to Seo Jin-Ae is nothing to do with the chip in her head either, per se, but more to do with her having the right sort of mind in the first place, which allows her to both survive the chip and tune into Radio Thargoid.

As for taking revenge on Azimuth/Salvation etc., as Jackson and Braben said in that interview on Epic why assume they have any emotional responses we can understand?

Why indeed.

Our capacity for revenge comes from fear. Again from the interview Braben says "Most likely they don't know fear".

With no fear of being attacked or pain or leaving someone alive who has hurt you once and may hurt you or someone else again, there is no motive for revenge. So that makes no sense.

Recognising the need for some kind of punishment is a possibility but perhaps only in the cold and impersonal way that a key locks a cell door or a rabid animal is put down.

Taking out targets that can make weapons like the Proteus Wave and the Nanite Torpedo could simply be a smart military move, with no fear or desire involved.

It also doesn't necessarily follow that if the Thargoids now know we have a concept of revenge that they now have it too. There are many other possibilities. They may only understand the facts in our minds, not the emotions. They may understand the emotion in us but not share it. Or they may even see such emotions as primitive ones they outgrew millennia ago.

If they do understand our psychology now and start using psychological warfare they will have the upper hand. We can't do it back because nothing we do scares them.

It's amazing what rubbish (or is it?) you start coming up with at 6AM when the insomnia kicks in

 

[Kira Goto]

It's amazing what rubbish (or is it?) you start coming up with at 6AM when the insomnia kicks in

It's not the worst theory I've heard. Particularly the part about the mind/mental conditions (also) playing an important part is something I've been thinking for quite some time (and have worked into my RP but don't expect people here to know about it). Sure, you might have the right genetic markers/code or whatever, but if you don't have the right mind... well, I'd guess there's a reason all but two of the test subjects connected to the Scout were immediately killed by it, besides its built-in defense mechanisms Azimuth had to bypass via trial and error. And it seems to be rare enough that, as you said, finding such a person wouldn't be easy even in a population of trillions.

(Why the one that succeeded after Seo died, can't quite be sure, but if the pilot shares the pain of the ship that crash might simply have overloaded the brain enough to result in death a few days later.)

It seems much more interesting to me than "zOmBiEs" anyway. And perhaps also plausible. Maybe what they got out of Seo actually helps them identify and look for people with the right conditions for a connection to the hivemind, but not to construct an army which they would already have themselves and/or could get at significantly less effort, and if the Dedicant's logs prove anything they have means of not boiling to death in an environment outside their usual habitable conditions... much like we do.

This also fits with my recent idea that they are invading these systems not for "testing our defenses" as GalNet (featured) people speculated, or just gameplay, but for the people in them.

Unless they don't care or are leaving that for a later date. Or need time to do it that they don't have right now.

All three are equally likely. Given that they weren't particularly bothered or affected by losing 200-ish (smaller) motherships to the mycoid in the first war - there's an old megaship from the time the logs of which suggest they weren't really discouraged by it at all - it seems to me they don't particularly care to lose 8 of whatever they call the Titans and are just getting as much as they can out of their capabilities while they're destroyed.

... but it could even be a mixture of both or all three. Whatever way the nanites are immune to the AGF (would like to know, even if it is not actually too relevant to us, Ram), it might not be particularly simple for them to develop a countermeasure to that or adapt the Titans' equivalent of an 'immune system' to immediately neutralize them before any damage can be caused, or not last long enough to disrupt the heat vents. Probably would not come in time for Cocijo if they are even working on it at all, so perhaps throwing a few caustic missiles at the origins of the torpedoes is the best they could come up with short-term.

Not that it is by any means guaranteed they will actually do so. We don't exactly have a clue what they will do from here/once Cocijo falls.

Maybe it wasn't terribly bad but simply a theory that would still need the technology to put into practice so the info by itself is useless until someone can figure out how to make it work.

That might be true, but if a possibility did actually exist, would that not lead credence to the idea instead of most people ridiculing the premise of turning an organic mind into a technological one (as GalNet alludes has been the general response to Seo's reports of Nemesis, or the idea of it at least, existing)... Salvation may have been an utter nutjob, but he wasn't a stupid nutjob, and nobody seems to have known Guardian technology like he did. So if there is even the slightest possibility that it could have worked, he would have done it.

Maybe I'm just biased but it feels like people [in-universe] shouldn't be overlooking what kind of madman he was and what he was capable of. Or to ignore that he might be alive in some kind of Guardian computer and connected to a network which gives him god knows what kinds of possibilities.

Though I would also take him being trapped in an infernal hellscape as he is eternally tormented by the Thargoid machine which subverted the Proteus Wave.

We have been told repeatedly that they neither know nor appear to care about our political and social structures.

Or maybe they actually do have a vague idea of those - or at least the political - structures, but it has little meaning or is of no significant interest to them aside from what they can do with it militarily, aka for the purpose of attacking systems. Given the current state of our interactions, I don't expect that the Thargoids would actually have any particular desire to look at our cultures more closely except maybe for an objective interest in understanding why we keep pestering their backyards.

Other random off-the-track thought, back when we first encountered Glaives away from the Titans, someone in GalNet chose to interpret it as "Thargoids being worried", but I thought about it for... maybe a minute, recently re-reading some articles, and figured that's just a bunch of nonsense. Why, if Glaives were always intended to be Titan defenders, and using them outside that environment is "unplanned", would they be outfitted with the capability to use a Guardian tech neutralizer in a place where the field is already permanently active anyway? Almost like it was actually planned.

 

[Neestar]

Try what Aleks said. Bring the relevant items to a site, put them in the right slots then scan the structure.

YES i finally got time to collect the 3 rare items and then went back and thanks to @Aleks Zuno & you & others in this thread, i realized holding these particular ( albeit corrosive ) Thargoid items in my SRV allowed me to not only enter the chamber doors immediately but also i didn't get any scavengers aggro either....

...i eventually achieved SUCCESS below ( after i figured out which portal to drop each matching holographic item into ) and created the truly amazing "star map" ...

.... !!!!!!! SUCH AWESOME and IMMERSIVE SPACE CONTENT!!!! Please @Paul_Crowther tell the FDevelopers to create MORE of this type of mysterious FUN!
p.s. i especially enjoyed the---> bonus in-game mail with secret AUDIO too!!!! ...even though for some reason it wouldn't play for me in-game and so instead i had to go listen to it from an old YouTube video ( maybe---> that old mail audio function is bug'd ? )
p.p.s. i also thought it was a nice detail that the---> chamber allowed me to pickup/scoopup the 3 rare items again afterwards ( phew! )

 

[Phill P]

Why, if Glaives were always intended to be Titan defenders, and using them outside that environment is "unplanned", would they be outfitted with the capability to use a Guardian tech neutralizer in a place where the field is already permanently active anyway? Almost like it was actually planned.

If they are defenders then why are they called Hunters?

 

[Ian Doncaster]

If they are defenders then why are they called Hunters?

We called them that, though. The Thargoid Interceptors mostly don't spend their time intercepting things (especially not the Orthrus). The Thargoid Scouts don't obviously do very much scouting while we're looking.

 

[Phill P]

We called them that, though. The Thargoid Interceptors mostly don't spend their time intercepting things (especially not the Orthrus). The Thargoid Scouts don't obviously do very much scouting while we're looking.

Well fdev actually called them that but yes, this is true. Still, Kira's point that they did not just hang around the Titans and defend them is a valid one.