THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

[G4RY]

Couple of ammonia worlds well out in the rift if anyone wants to check them for probes:

* MYOIDEAU MA-A C0 4 (ringed)
* SPONGAEA RN-B D13-0 10

We are looking for Earth Like World's mate Ammonia are very attractive to look at though

Here it is. Sorry about formatting. Far right column is distance from EAFOTS EU-R C4-1.

Body System Distance Ref
Eafots KL-Y d2 A 8 Eafots KL-Y d2 Earth-like world 519 ls 95.51 ly
Eafots NW-W d1-0 2 Eafots NW-W d1-0 Earth-like world 1,449 ls 88.87 ly
Eafots NW-W d1-0 1 Eafots NW-W d1-0 Earth-like world 1,451 ls 88.87 ly
Eafots LW-W d1-2 6 Eafots LW-W d1-2 Earth-like world 1,669 ls 109.50 ly
Eafots QM-M c7-2 2 Eafots QM-M c7-2 Earth-like world 390 ls 140.42 ly
Eafots JQ-Y d0 A 3 Eafots JQ-Y d0 Earth-like world 633 ls 153.79 ly
Eafots EK-A d0 5 Eafots EK-A d0 Earth-like world 1,889 ls 164.17 ly
Eafots OC-V d2-2 B 2 Eafots OC-V d2-2 Earth-like world 265,967 ls 184.70 ly
Eafots CK-A d7 3 Eafots CK-A d7 Earth-like world 543 ls 186.69 ly
Eafots HB-N c7-0 A 2 Eafots HB-N c7-0 Earth-like world 357 ls 192.40 ly
Eafots IK-Z c0 2 Eafots IK-Z c0 Earth-like world 288 ls 195.73 ly
Eafots BK-R d4-7 1 Eafots BK-R d4-7 Earth-like world 656 ls 216.60 ly
Eafots EF-A d7 5 Eafots EF-A d7 Earth-like world 2,140 ls 221.14 ly
Eafots CZ-I c9-0 1 Eafots CZ-I c9-0 Earth-like world 211 ls 236.27 ly
Eafots HV-G c10-1 A 1 Eafots HV-G c10-1 Earth-like world 396 ls 260.58 ly
Eafots EZ-I c9-0 3 Eafots EZ-I c9-0 Earth-like world 327 ls 294.61 ly
Eafots SC-D c12-1 A 2 Eafots SC-D c12-1 Earth-like world 322 ls 345.07 ly
Eafots MR-N d6-1 1 Eafots MR-N d6-1 Earth-like world 443 ls 424.75 ly
Eafots XY-Z c13-2 B 4 Eafots XY-Z c13-2 Earth-like world 3,483 ls 436.64 ly
Eafots CQ-Y d3 12 Eafots CQ-Y d3 Earth-like world 638 ls 446.78 ly
Eafots YO-Z d1 AB 2 Eafots YO-Z d1 Earth-like world 1,707 ls 465.28 ly
Eafots OC-M d7-7 A 4 Eafots OC-M d7-7 Earth-like world 2,017 ls 473.70 ly
Eafots SP-W b15-0 A 2 Eafots SP-W b15-0 Earth-like world 119 ls 521.14 ly
Eafots ND-S d4-1 3 Eafots ND-S d4-1 Earth-like world 868 ls 523.84 ly
Eafots DL-Y d6 3 Eafots DL-Y d6 Earth-like world 1,087 ls 536.20 ly
Eafots LS-K d8-2 10 Eafots LS-K d8-2 Earth-like world 673 ls 586.22 ly
Eafots FZ-S d3-32 A 6 Eafots FZ-S d3-32 Earth-like world 2,981 ls 599.59 ly
Eafots VY-Z d0 3 Eafots VY-Z d0 Earth-like world 862 ls 609.89 ly
Eafots SS-B d0 3 Eafots SS-B d0 Earth-like world 639 ls 626.41 ly
Eafots TC-M d7-22 B 1 Eafots TC-M d7-22 Earth-like world 98,331 ls 724.03 ly
Eafots XX-S c17-3 6 Eafots XX-S c17-3 Earth-like world 239 ls 758.24 ly
Eafots SL-R b33-1 A 1 Eafots SL-R b33-1 Earth-like world 49 ls 767.52 ly
Eafots XI-K d8-40 CDE 1 Eafots XI-K d8-40 Earth-like world 12,056 ls 799.78 ly
Eafots TW-U c16-8 A 5 Eafots TW-U c16-8 Earth-like world 400 ls 800.02 ly
Eafots GC-D d12-74 A 4 Eafots GC-D d12-74 Earth-like world 1,099 ls 864.24 ly
Eafots GC-D d12-59 6 Eafots GC-D d12-59 Earth-like world 951 ls 868.49 ly
Eafots OD-I d10-1 A 4 Eafots OD-I d10-1 Earth-like world 1,870 ls 913.92 ly
Eafots XV-E d11-57 3 Eafots XV-E d11-57 Earth-like world 874 ls 920.22 ly
Eafots PT-Z d13-56 A 10 Eafots PT-Z d13-56 Earth-like world 1,012 ls 1,007.38 ly
Eafots DF-G c24-6 1 Eafots DF-G c24-6 Earth-like world 347 ls 1,018.33 ly
Eafots RI-B d13-98 4 Eafots RI-B d13-98 Earth-like world 1,237 ls 1,050.45 ly
Eafots UO-Z d13-111 1 Eafots UO-Z d13-111 Earth-like world 625 ls 1,093.38 ly
Eafots NN-Q d6-0 2 Eafots NN-Q d6-0 Earth-like world 2,045 ls 1,296.31 ly

I think we could do with a spreadsheet to be honest, having all checked/unchecked systems in one place would be beneficial. But [up] for posting these.

Can't help but wonder:

Are beacons the same as satellites? They were dropping beacons, not satellites.
Satellites don't fit in a sidewinder. A satellite is bigger than my Asp.
Were they dropping beacons in the void, in planet's orbits or on planets' ground?
Are those perhaps the Data Beacons we occasionally find in POI on planets?
Is the search still limited to 200LY around EAFOTS EU-R or was that limit just for the CG?
Are we searching for ELWs with satellites or even for ELWs without any satellites (in the system I mean, not necessarily in the ELW's orbit)?

Yeah, these Beacons are pretty big.. i'm not understanding the whole 'fit in a Sidewinder' myself.
All Beacons up to now have been set up near a planet in orbit.. not on the actual planet surface.... although we might be looking for the wrong thing at the minute... hence 'might be'.
We are looking for Beacons set up exactly like the Beacons we have already found, Set up in orbit with an ELW nearby, in the same system, so it is best to check around each body within a system that has an ELW.

 

[ishmair]

We are looking for Earth Like World's mate Ammonia are very attractive to look at though



I think we could do with a spreadsheet to be honest, having all checked/unchecked systems in one place would be beneficial. But [up] for posting these.



Yeah, these Beacons are pretty big.. i'm not understanding the whole 'fit in a Sidewinder' myself.
All Beacons up to now have been set up near a planet in orbit.. not on the actual planet surface.... although we might be looking for the wrong thing at the minute... hence 'might be'.
We are looking for Beacons set up exactly like the Beacons we have already found, Set up in orbit with an ELW nearby, in the same system

thought one of the message log talk about EVA's they could of been assembled EVA style.

 

[G4RY]

Should be 200 lys from eafots EU-R C4-1

Extra candidates is always good

Since when?? lol! I thought we were searching from E2 [wacky] Oh well they are only a stones throw away from each other

 

[G4RY]

A lot of replies, sorry i should of kept them in the same post.

I worked it out, and the result was roughly 0.05 Ly.

My guess is that she stayed in the system. The average system is roughly 2Ly wide, so it's conceivable that she flew off in a direction, picked up a planet on a scanner, and decided to check it out. When it turned out to be an ELW, she sent out the next message, and it was recieved after 0.05 Ly of travel.

So she stayed in the system. Now we just have to figure out which system that is.

Hmm this doesn't seem right, from Reorte to The Rift took them five months was it? i know it was months of travelling anyway roughly 8000ly. sorry not in game at the minute to check the logs.

EDIT: yes Gamma log 2/6 say's that they arrived after Five months of hyperspace travel. But i am terrible at math :|

thought one of the message log talk about EVA's they could of been assembled EVA style.
http://i.imgur.com/ZyuLeNo.png

Yeah very true.

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

I keep getting the impression from the logs that we are supposed to be able to notice a difference in the lights during H-Jumps sequences at these parts of the galaxy. Unfortunately, no matter how much attention I pay, I can't see a difference anywhere I've been. There are differences from jump to jump, but the same things seem to be present in all locations.

 

[adamrsb48]

Maybe the ELW is moving... Or an illusion...

That's no earth...it's a space station!

-Box of Tinfoil

 

[ishmair]

I keep getting the impression from the logs that we are supposed to be able to notice a difference in the lights during H-Jumps sequences at these parts of the galaxy. Unfortunately, no matter how much attention I pay, I can't see a difference anywhere I've been. There are differences from jump to jump, but the same things seem to be present in all locations.

I been noticing weird green and yellow octopus like thing in H-Jump
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ERY-(Part-4)?p=5073587&viewfull=1#post5073587

video sucks for catching them.
[video=youtube_share;XLEJaMnVG_0]https://youtu.be/XLEJaMnVG_0[/video]

this one was request for sound difference from 8 or 9 days ago.
[video=youtube_share;UXKf1zTCnpI]https://youtu.be/UXKf1zTCnpI[/video]

 

[adamrsb48]

A lot of replies, sorry i should of kept them in the same post.



Hmm this doesn't seem right, from Reorte to The Rift took them five months was it? I know it was months of travelling anyway roughly 8000ly. sorry not in game at the minute to check the logs.

EDIT: yes Gamma log 2/6 say's that they arrived after Five months of hyperspace travel. But I am terrible at math :|



Yeah very true.

I wasn't basing it off of ship speeds. A ship traveling for eighteen days straight could get across hundreds of systems, because of hyperspace and space-compression and all that. I was basing it off of the speed of radio waves, the speed of the telemetry transmissions.

She sends the first right after her power goes out. It takes x-amount of time to reach Delta Base, because we don't know where she is in relation to Delta Base. Then, roughly one day later, the next message arrives. That means she traveled the amount of space it takes light to travel for one day. Roughly 0.003 Ly, or 86,460 Ls. That's about the time it takes to get about two or three planets away from the central star, I think.

So she travels this amount, finds the ship destroyed, and panics. She probably spends an hour or two crying, hyperventilating, screaming, cursing, etc. It is at this point that she sends the second message, and it arrives one day after the one she sent earlier, anywhere inbetween ten minutes to twelve hours earlier. Then, logic sets in and she decides to move on, attempt to survive. She travels the length of the system, picks up an ELW on her scanners, and makes a choice. She sends another message, for recording reasons, and it arrives about eighteen days after the last message she sent.

60*60*24*18*300,000 = 466,560,000,000 km @ 300,000km/s, or 0.05 Ly.

Basing this off the fact that the average width of a solar system is roughly 2 Ly, I figure it's maybe three to four planets away from where she found the debris of the attacked ship. One should note that most of a solar system is empty space, so distance between planets could be huge in order to have a stable system that doesn't rip itself apart. Equipped with a hyperdrive or FSD (take your pick), the sidewinder could easily fly that distance in less than an hour, conserve a bunch of fuel, and find this planet.

I think it's something to consider.

 

[MAUXUS]

Those we found are communication beacons. Maybe she was dropping relay beacons instead, which would be smaller and can fit a sidewinder cargo. Regarding the EVA thing, she only mentioned "dropping them" and making sure they are "activated", nothing about assembling them.

 

[eadghe]

I been noticing weird green and yellow octopus like thing in H-Jump
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ERY-(Part-4)?p=5073587&viewfull=1#post5073587

video sucks for catching them.
https://youtu.be/XLEJaMnVG_0

this one was request for sound difference from 8 or 9 days ago.
https://youtu.be/UXKf1zTCnpI

Ive seen those weird octopus-like-thingies everywhere in witchspace, not just in the rift...

 

[Barking_Mad]

I can confirm through one of Reorte's tourist beacons that Sirius made the FSDs and power plants for Faulcon deLacey's ships.

"Faulcon deLacy manufactures many of the smaller components in its own ships, and has a well-established relationship with the Sirius Corporation for its hyperdrives and power plants. It is also a big customer of the WCM Corporation - buying its hull alloys from them as raw material." (Faulcon deLacy's Business Realations beacon, Reorte)

Hmm... could "WCM" be Wreaken Construction from the recent GalNet article?

That was my first thought. Is it worth checking the planet where they're based?

 

[G4RY]

I wasn't basing it off of ship speeds. A ship traveling for eighteen days straight could get across hundreds of systems, because of hyperspace and space-compression and all that. I was basing it off of the speed of radio waves, the speed of the telemetry transmissions.

She sends the first right after her power goes out. It takes x-amount of time to reach Delta Base, because we don't know where that is. Then, roughly one day later, the next message arrives. That means she traveled the amount of space it takes light to travel for one day. Roughly 0.003 Ly, or 86,460 Ls. That's about the time it takes to get about two or three planets away from the central star, I think.

So she travels this amount, finds the ship destroyed, and panics. She probably spends an hour or two crying, hyperventilating, screaming, cursing, etc. It is at this point that she sends the second message, and it arrives one day after the one she sent earlier, anywhere inbetween ten minutes to twelve hours earlier. Then, logic sets in and she decides to move on, attempt to survive. She travels the length of the system, picks up an ELW on her scanners, and makes a choice. She sends another message, for recording reasons, and it arrives about eighteen days after the last message she sent.

60*60*24*18*300,000 = 466,560,000,000 km @ 300,000km/s, or 0.05 Ly.

Basing this off the fact that the average width of a solar system is roughly 2 Ly, I figure it's maybe three to four planets away from where she found the debris of the attacked ship. One should note that most of a solar system is empty space, so distance between planets could be huge in order to have a stable system that doesn't rip itself apart. Equipped with a hyperdrive or FSD (take your pick), the sidewinder could easily fly that distance in less than an hour, conserve a bunch of fuel, and find this planet.

I think it's something to consider.

Nice write up! I see now yes thanks. And from my experience when i had to jaunt 0.13ly (4,800,000 LS, travelling at 1700c) in SC from the arrival point in a system to the station (cant remember the system,sorry) that took me exactly 59 minutes, pretty much bang on 59 minutes to be exact. Hmmm....

 

[adamrsb48]

Whenever I've read this, i always think that to see something hanging, you need to look at it from below.

"Scumbrains, that's what we've got in this launch. Pinheaded little morons. Only one of you had the brains to realize that in null gravity, directions are whatever you conceive them to be."

-Colonel Graff, Ender's Game

 

[Problem Child]

Ishtar, Ereshkigal, and Prism are on today's itinerary.

So, just checked these three out (again, in-space stuff only, no landing on planetary bodies because base game). AFAICT, nothing of note in any of the systems.

Ereshkigal has 4 suns, a gas giant, and no stations or landable bodies, and I didn't find any additional POI in space.

Ishtar doesn't have much more; I did set down at Vinci Base, but there was no non-BGS/PP news.

Prism does have a tonne of Herald posts (and a POI about The Battle of Chione), but they seem to be anything new. In fact, most are freelance reports from, well, Rifters basically So you probably know their contents already

Just in case, the titles & dates are:

• The Birth of Loren's Legion — 30 Sep 3301 — CMDR Corrigendum
• A Show of Solidarity (freelance) — 19 Feb 3302 — CMDR Corrigendum
• Tantalum Demand Boosts Economy (freelance) —29 Apr 3302 — reads like a procgen BGS report, but is signed CMDR Corrigendum, talks about Tantalum's use in FSD drives
• Who Is Commander Salomé? (freelance) — 19 May 3302 — CMDR Jaiotu
• A Voice of Warning (freelance) — 14 Jul 3302 — CMDR Corrigendum
• Concern Mounts over Detention of Kahina Loren (freelance) — 27 Sep 3302 — CMDR Edgar Starwalker (Liaedin Chronicle/Interstellar Press)
• Prism Prepared (freelance) — 28 Sep 3302 — CMDR Corrigendum
• Prism Prison Pummelled (freelance) — 17 Oct 3302 — CMDR Corrigendum
• A Voice for Salomé (freelance) — 17 Oct 3302 — CMDR Red
• Prism Lockdown Looms (freelance) — 18 Oct 3302 — CMDR Corrigendum

Kept screenshots, can post details if necessary, but it seems like it's all coming from the community anyway.

 

[Worom]

I wasn't basing it off of ship speeds. A ship traveling for eighteen days straight could get across hundreds of systems, because of hyperspace and space-compression and all that. I was basing it off of the speed of radio waves, the speed of the telemetry transmissions.

She sends the first right after her power goes out. It takes x-amount of time to reach Delta Base, because we don't know where that is. Then, roughly one day later, the next message arrives. That means she traveled the amount of space it takes light to travel for one day. Roughly 0.003 Ly, or 86,460 Ls. That's about the time it takes to get about two or three planets away from the central star, I think.

So she travels this amount, finds the ship destroyed, and panics. She probably spends an hour or two crying, hyperventilating, screaming, cursing, etc. It is at this point that she sends the second message, and it arrives one day after the one she sent earlier, anywhere inbetween ten minutes to twelve hours earlier. Then, logic sets in and she decides to move on, attempt to survive. She travels the length of the system, picks up an ELW on her scanners, and makes a choice. She sends another message, for recording reasons, and it arrives about eighteen days after the last message she sent.

60*60*24*18*300,000 = 466,560,000,000 km @ 300,000km/s, or 0.05 Ly.

Basing this off the fact that the average width of a solar system is roughly 2 Ly, I figure it's maybe three to four planets away from where she found the debris of the attacked ship. One should note that most of a solar system is empty space, so distance between planets could be huge in order to have a stable system that doesn't rip itself apart. Equipped with a hyperdrive or FSD (take your pick), the sidewinder could easily fly that distance in less than an hour, conserve a bunch of fuel, and find this planet.

I think it's something to consider.

I thought we had FTL comms? If that is the case how far could a sidewinder get in 18 days with the type 2b drives? Is there a travel time calculation?

 

[adamrsb48]

best I could with a video. can't see it well in the video.
https://youtu.be/XLEJaMnVG_0

also I got a weird droning sound coming off the planet or maybe I'm going space nuts.

https://youtu.be/dG-qLs5Th_o

IMHO, those octupi things are just clouds of dust.

However, that droning buzz is interesting. That noise happens when your ship crosses through radio waves and stuff like that, data signals. You'll notice it around outposts, especially if you just sit there and listen while you look at the station.

Perhaps there is something on the surface of that planet.

 

[Assimilator1]

I don't think anything has been confirmed, or even suggested, about further beacons - yet. The way I read this scenario is that the known beacons were laid by the three expeditions whose logs we are collecting. They are 'rally points', places for fleets to gather, for a later expedition - the 'exodus'? - on its way to wherever, and for reasons we don't yet know.

Their are definitely strong hints that their are more beacons, multiple logs talking about dropping multiple beacons, that's gotta be more than 4.

 

[John Rhys]

I been noticing weird green and yellow octopus like thing in H-Jump
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ERY-(Part-4)?p=5073587&viewfull=1#post5073587

video sucks for catching them.
https://youtu.be/XLEJaMnVG_0

this one was request for sound difference from 8 or 9 days ago.
https://youtu.be/UXKf1zTCnpI

This ties in wonderfully to the theorie, that the space in the Formidine Rift is different. Which also would make sense, since Formadine means "fear"...

 

[kenworth]

Well, just for kicks I did go check out the ELW in Eafots NN-Q d6-0. This is a neutron star system with one ELW, and a water world with a landable moon. The last jump to this system is over 95LY. There is another neutron star I was able to get to with just my 42LY jump range at Eafots TO-O d7-2. Used that one to supercharge to get to this system. Anyway, nothing of interest around the ELW. Will finish checking out the rest of the system later.

 

[G4RY]

Well, just for kicks I did go check out the ELW in Eafots NN-Q d6-0. This is a neutron star system with one ELW, and a water world with a landable moon. The last jump to this system is over 95LY. There is another neutron star I was able to get to with just my 42LY jump range at Eafots TO-O d7-2. Used that one to supercharge to get to this system. Anyway, nothing of interest around the ELW. Will finish checking out the rest of the system later.

Oh wow that's high up! I am currently searching system's with ELW between the sites and the Heart and Soul Nebula, hopefully we find her Beacon... or something soon.