THE FORMIDINE RIFT MYSTERY (Part 4)

I hope you're right.
In support of your statement, there's nothing in the Galnet post that suggests one needs to do anything to upgrade their scanners.

Just in case anyone missed it, they also show up in the HUD without a range limit. Assuming all the bodies in a system are roughly on the main orbital plane then you can check every body in a system in just one full 360 rotation in that plane.
 

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I just saw this thread: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...n-at-octavia-quintin-s-derelict-asteroid-base

I never knew that and it's a shame that FDEV won't put an actual base there. It'd be great if they've actually put an asteroid base and make it refuse docking request with a custom voice message saying "This base is off limits. Please leave the area as soon as possible" - make a lot of security ships flying around... The assets are in the game already and it could be perceived as improving the core experience. Maybe as part of the post-2.4 improvements?
 
You've probably figured it out by now but Ian TJ misplaced it briefly when he changed ownership.

edit: original message corrected based on new (potentially questionable) information.


Everybody's ship scanner was upgraded after Ram Tah "decoded the Guardian signal" - confirmed; I never did the ruins mission but have detected ruins at 1000ls.
 
Why is the rift more important than conflux or Hawkins?
If these are all early warning sites (none near col 70?)
Wouldnt there be more going on there as well?
 
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Why is the rift more important than conflux or Hawkins?
If these are all early warning sites (none near col 70?)
Wouldnt there be more going on there as well?

The Rift was, as far as we know, the only one where a derelict Mega Ship was located. Thus more important due to it containing more evidence of the conspiracy then the other sites.
 
The Rift was, as far as we know, the only one where a derelict Mega Ship was located. Thus more important due to it containing more evidence of the conspiracy then the other sites.

Indications are it's more likely to be the one with something more interesting behind it. 3 escape options, all with some indication of 3rd party monitoring and interference but seems like more in the rift than elsewhere which suggests the 3rd party has more of an interest in that area.
 
Why is the rift more important than conflux or Hawkins?
If these are all early warning sites (none near col 70?)
Wouldnt there be more going on there as well?

The Formidine Rift is the original puzzle laid down in Elite Reclamation by Drew Wagar, and as such has been in game since the original gamma. ER was one of the novels written to provide the lore and background for ED. Apparently the visible FRift POI was originally a derelict Anaconda but was upgraded by FD to be a megaship-the Zurara; however the real puzzle is the Dynasty conspiracy behind the Zurara.
Conflux and Hawking's Gap apear to have been added in by FD to augment the FRift mystery, & it is not clear whether there are megaships out there to mirror the Zurara. The interesting question is why were these areas added? On the face of things it sort of makes sense if the superpowers are going to evacuate in the event of alien invasion for them to have an area each, but the FRift, Conflux and Gap are very widely separated, and while the superpowers on the face of it don't get on too well I think in reality they are the three sides of a triangle and would be lost without the interaction between them. So are the Dynasty bases something else? Perhaps not just an evacuation eventuality but perhaps a set of warning sites (one of the bases in each area appears to be an intel listening post with telescope and rotating antennae), but with terraformed planets that could be settled (either as an invasion escape, or possibly as human bait to highlight any aliens coming from three possible directions? i.e. from Bovomit, Colonia, ??). There are inconsistencies in this Dynasty plot but we don't have any more information as yet.

edit: Another possibiliy for the terraforming in FRift, Conflux and Gap might be that the alien threat actually prefers ELW. Hence the Dynasty conspiracy might be to prepare bait sites for them and that is what the listening posts were to monitor. That hangs together as a hypothesis, but doesn't hang well with the initimation that the Dynasty conspirators have known for decades or more about the impending threat- if that was the case then surely they would have located it!
 
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Great thanks for the info,
I think these are ews early warning stations.
Though I don't see the Elw in system, referred in the logs.
The 3 areas may be close to suspected invasion points, leaving the east side of the bubble wide open to the most probable barnards loop permit locked area,
Unless the barnacles are hinting friendly forces lie there...
 
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Great thanks for the info,
I think these are ews early warning stations.
Though I don't see the Elw in system, referred in the logs.
The 3 areas may be close to suspected invasion points, leaving the east side of the bubble wide open to the most probable barnards loop permit locked area,
Unless the barnacles are hinting friendly forces lie there...

The logs all seem to be from ships in the area rather than the bases. Or at least that's how they read to me, so it's a case of tracking down the system they were made in which is finding a needle in a box of needles hidden in 1 haystack in a field of haystacks. And that's if the needle has been placed yet.
 
Great thanks for the info,
I think these are ews early warning stations.
Though I don't see the Elw in system, referred in the logs.
The 3 areas may be close to suspected invasion points, leaving the east side of the bubble wide open to the most probable barnards loop permit locked area,
Unless the barnacles are hinting friendly forces lie there...

Yes. The Col70 area appears to have been set up to be a possible source of the threat; but with Sirius/Wreaken etc up to something there then it might be that is a locked area set aside (with Pilot Federation acquiescence) for technology R&D and building the fleet that will be humanity's defence (possibly with friendly alien assistance?) Which would imply the potential threat is coming from the opposite direction-so FRift, Conflux or Gap makes sense to be early warning stations. The lack of the ELW with beacons and terraformed planets as stated in the Dynasty base logs (as HQ says these seem to have been intercepted signals received from various ships in the expeditions) has been a bit of a concern, however now a terraformed world (KOI 4742 3) has been found then that might lead us forward.
 
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Yes. The Col70 area appears to have been set up to be a possible source of the threat; but with Sirius/Wreaken etc up to something there then it might be that is a locked area set aside (with Pilot Federation acquiescence) for technology R&D and building the fleet that will be humanity's defence (possibly with friendly alien assistance?) Which would imply the potential threat is coming from the opposite direction-so FRift, Conflux or Gap makes sense to be early warning stations. The lack of the ELW with beacons and terraformed planets as stated in the Dynasty base logs (as HQ says these seem to have been intercepted signals received from various ships in the expeditions) has been a bit of a concern, however now a terraformed world (KOI 4742 3) has been found then that might lead us forward.

Which does raise a point, perhaps a future CG to send investigators into the bases for evidence.
 
Which does raise a point, perhaps a future CG to send investigators into the bases for evidence.
This would certainly be worth pursuing [up]
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One of the reasons behind my own CG proposal was that there are things in this game that we cannot do ourselves but which NPC investigators could do on our behalf, with some assistance from players to make it as interactive as possible in a variety of ways.
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There are a number of leads for an investigation team to pursue and the bases, like the Zurara, are hard evidence of the existence of the conspiracy thirty years ago. The trail might be cold but it's only going to get colder if nothing is done...
 
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probe inside ship have change ?!!!!

1 head , 2 head .....

sources : http://imgur.com/r/EliteDangerous/JwADi
 
This would certainly be worth pursuing [up]
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One of the reasons behind my own CG proposal was that there are things in this game that we cannot do ourselves but which NPC investigators could do on our behalf, with some assistance from players to make it as interactive as possible in a variety of ways.
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There are a number of leads for an investigation team to pursue and the bases, like the Zurara, are hard evidence of the existence of the conspiracy thirty years ago. The trail might be cold but it's only going to get colder if nothing is done...

Agreed, and if we get to do 1 and find anything of use, I think 1 for each area to get the same team to examine bases would make sense. May only add background but who knows.
 
I personally would not be surprised if Galnet/Pilots Fed/Rumored people who found Raxxla are the ones behind this all this. I am all for supporting further investigation but they may not have anything new to support the rift mystery in game yet as it seems there are 2 paths, finding out who is behind the dynasty conspiracy (which is a huge story arc in itself and will take a long time I'm sure), and the coming threat (which ties into the UA/UP/Alien investigation). I also feel like the Formadine Rift Mystery had evolved into The Dynasty Conspiracy. Another thing of note is where do the guardians fit in this puzzle? No way they would give us such a high paying mission on the guardian ruins giving us lore, history, and backstory without them being a potential threat. I bet there are some still alive and out there, and they are coming back. Like in Independence day when the "Carrier" (not quite a mothership but not a scout ship either) came back and the little alien fighter started powering up and everything started working again after years of being inactive. That would explain the guardian ruins and the monolith network coming back online again after thousands of years of abandonment.
 
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