The Formidine Rift - Part 2

[piy]

I really, really hope that whatever secret has been planted in the ED galaxy, gets tested regularly by Drew and FD.

Not long ago, people searched ages and ages for Barnacles, and it turned out that the majority of users could be at exactly the right spot and nothing would be visible.

Think about it... maybe 50 commanders have already been in the secret Rift location and nothing spawned because of a bug in ED...

(Arghh, I hope this is not what Drew means when he says "depends on who goes looking")

Ohhh my....I never even thought of that. I'd spit my dummy out big time if I found out I'd been there and it glitches.

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Thanks! but my be a few weeks before I'm out that way on PC. My XB1 character will stay on his current focus of PP and CG's, and I won't have as much time to contribute on the PC so may take some time to get the credits for an ASP-E that is ready for the trip. Will look forward to it however!

It's all good take your time. Add me as a friend if you like on your PC. Or don't! you blaze you own trail

 

[Tiny_Rick]

Is there a possible grid list showing which systems have been explored in this region? Is it possible to get a group of pilots together and assign a sector or cluster to explore and and isolate? If so, I'd like to assist on XB.

 

[Gypsy12]

Anyone want to try slow flying from reorte to riedquat?

Just in case?

To far away to attempt that! (-;

 

[RollinStoner]

Cross posted from UA thread, containing Han Zens original hypothesis and my reply, thought I'd stick it here for you fine folks to mull over

 "Originally Posted by Han_Zen 
Hi all,

I'm currently in the woods with limited mobile access and no ED. This theory might belong in the Rift thread, but that one is moving to fast at the moment.

Several people have posted about possible connection between 7 veils and colours. This makes sence in a way.

Kahina described her visit to Earth as 'Enlightening' and she received a 'luminating' drink as a gift.

A Prism will give a spectrum of 7 colours: Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Cyan, Indigo and Violet.

'Goodluck, and ... Right On, Commander' Can be interpreted as: 'Green, Red-Orange, Cyan'

Colours have a frequency range.

Red-Orange has a frequency of 480 THz. Reorte and Riedqat has a Y coord. of 48.

Could colour frequency be coordinates?"

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Also not in game at the moment, but this interested me enough to look up the other frequencies, what I found was

G: 526-606Thz
C: 610-575 Thz
R/O: 480 Thz (couldn't find anything on net for it in the ranges like previous)

So, if we take the low end frequencies and drop the last number we would have
52,48,61
I'm not sure what, if any use, this may be but I was bored in work and this was more interesting XD

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Wouldn't "Right On" be 2 colours though? Red and orange rather than the mix? Just wondering as the words are separated, not joined by hyphen or in the way "goodluck" is?

 

[Datux]

Where this "Goodluck" came from? I have the kindle book under the nose and it is written "Good luck" - no typo.

 

[RollinStoner]

Where this "Goodluck" came from? I have the kindle book under the nose and it is written "Good luck" - no typo.

Good point, I never checked my version but you're right, there is a space between the words.

 

[Acheron Kimald]

Good point, I never checked my version but you're right, there is a space between the words.

Fixed. Sorry for the errors.

 

[Belthize]

If the 7 veils line of reasoning factors in a meaningful way I'll be severely disappointed. Senator Kahina was randomly named after a cat, by a backwater bumpkin and she didn't even know what a cat was. She did meet somebody (Luko) who knew the story of Salome but I've always viewed that as allegory and in the book Luko didn't know squat about the Formadine Rift, he wasn't even Elite (in the Children of Raxxla he's revealed to be something more but that story post dates the book and the insertion of whatever it is by a long shot). Salome isn't even mentioned in the bible and neither is the 7 veils, only that Herod's daughter danced. Oscar Wilde's play made the connection to Salome and the 7 veils.

So I've viewed it as allegory, furthering her character development as the daughter of a willful leader and her exerting her power and freedom to let go (further symbolized by leaving her tiara behind). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salome_(play)#Significance_of_the_Dance

In that sense it's very good and I commend Drew on the development and hidden meaning of Salome.

If it embodies some coordinate info then that raises all sorts of Hand of God type questions. Could Drew have done that, sure, but it would raise a heck of a lot of questions about how characters knew things (what happens if Hassan named her Whiskers instead) and acted as they did. Pretty huge coincidence that the aliens or whatever they are picked a spot to appear that could be found by linking truly ancient obscure play whose main character's name would be applied to a girl centuries after they (the aliens) appeared because some guy's sister owned a cat and the girl needed a temporary name.

Edit: I like the Raxxla story it's very good and I like that Luko returns. It ties things together nicely but I view it and Galnet articles (which vary from the book somewhat) as furthering the hints, the actual location predates those though as it's been stated that it was there since release.

 

[GormDeGamle]

Oscar Wilde's play made the connection to Salome and the 7 veils.

Well, Flavius Josephus talks about the name "Salmoe" for Herodias daughter much earlier. And the motif of the 7 veils seems to have a older origin, too.
But I believe you make a good point: we are probably looking for codes and ciphers in too many places... (get some rep...)

 

[marx]

The way I see it, the main problem isn't that we don't know for certain where the Formidine Rift is. The main problem is that we don't know how we can tell if we're in the right place. According to the Drew Wagar (see this post), the Rift has actually been found and partially explored already, but nothing of significance has been found. So whatever is out there that's tied to the mystery of the Rift, it's probably not something that's immediately obvious when you jump into a system.

Myself, I'll be taking an Unknown Artefact or two with myself when I venture out after the CG is over. Maybe the transmissions from it will catch somebody's attention better than just a ship jumping into a system and flying around pinging stuff. And yes, I know that they weren't in the game at release, but FD might still have tied the two mysteries together later. "Not required to have one, but it helps" perhaps.
Hm, following the same reasoning, maybe winging up would help too.

 

[Rudolphus]

I think we are going in the right direction,

formadine means in latin fear and rift is crack that look like were we are now and on the map of erimus

Ohhh my....I never even thought of that. I'd spit my dummy out big time if I found out I'd been there and it glitches.

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It's all good take your time. Add me as a friend if you like on your PC. Or don't! you blaze you own trail

 

[Nuntius Mehen]

I just wanted to throw this in the Tin Foil file! I noticed that in the original Elite the first time you see Right on Commander was after you reached 256 kills. Maybe the number 256 plays a role?

 

[Jpotter]

I just wanted to throw this in the Tin Foil file! I noticed that in the original Elite the first time you see Right on Commander was after you reached 256 kills. Maybe the number 256 plays a role?

This was likely due to the computer limitations at the time, early computer games limited the amount of memory used. As such, 256 was the max 'count' a system could achieve using 1 byte.

From Wiki:

"One byte is equal to eight bits and has 2⁸ or 256 possible values, counting from 0 to 255"

meaning they probably could only count to 256 for your number of kills.

 

[woodhouse]

meaning they probably could only count to 256 for your number of kills.

To reach Elite rank, one typically needed to do 6400 kills. So no byte limit there. But for the first 7 levels, the values did double from 8 to 512, hence the powers of 2.

 

[RollinStoner]

Just a quick follow up on the colour frequency theory, shared from Han Zens reply:



"It should be 'Good luck' I made a phone typo.

I think the commas are the coordinate separators.

If this is supposed to give something usefull, I would think something like this:

Good luck > G L > Green Low > coord = 5300.

... Right On > 0.01 * Red-Orange > coord = 48

Commander > Cyan > coord = 6350

Pretty far fetched, but at least a set of coordinates. "

 

[lorrad]

Originally Posted by picommander If you're using EDD and open its 3D map you will see it. It's the only thing on the map that comes close to a "perfect circle" and it's obvious.
I just asked in hope that the creator of this circle would read this in which case I'm pretty sure he/she knows what's going on. This curse is plotted too regular to be shaped by coincidence.




That's probably a permit area then, like Regor... Those have been investigated, and circles like that were the result. Let me check though...

[EDIT]: Checked. I'm sure that's Bovomit then... Probably was Erimus

I pretty sure he/she/me doesn't have a clue what's going on. I decided to see how big bovomit was and do something counter-intuitive and easy while I worked out some strategy for the Rift and fix a printer and get some hi-liters. Not a single sniff of anything interesting in my trip around bovomit. The oldest star I encountered was 800 Mil years old most are really young and not one signal source encountered but I in no way did and exhaustive search either. Have a minor plan to some time circle the other locked areas.

Current plan is chasing down the Cassiopeias around the rift for detailed scanning, keeping in mind could be looking for old stars and planets, keeping in mind the prism and veils, keeping in mind the possibility of dark systems,,,etc And then the sub-sector search,,,,

 

[Nuntius Mehen]

Just a quick follow up on the colour frequency theory, shared from Han Zens reply:



"It should be 'Good luck' I made a phone typo.

I think the commas are the coordinate separators.

If this is supposed to give something usefull, I would think something like this:

Good luck > G L > Green Low > coord = 5300.

... Right On > 0.01 * Red-Orange > coord = 48

Commander > Cyan > coord = 6350

Pretty far fetched, but at least a set of coordinates. "

Well those coords are 2200 LY off the RR line....totally within acceptable distance to warrant a look.

 

[lorrad]

Oh my.. this thread is growing quickly.



Agreed. The only point I was trying to make previously was that the similarities in the story of Lady Kahina and Ishtar are most likely not a coincidence, and we are being tasked with looking at this mystery/quest in light of that. There is a riddle to be solved within

Salomé and Kahina are most definitely the same person this has been confirmed in the Children of Raxxla story by Alessia Verdi. It's a quick (and great) read and a free download: http://childrenofraxxla.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/TheChildrenOfRaxxla-Final.pdf

Drew mentions these stories are 'unofficial' but I would be very surprised if he allowed such a prominent character to be written about falsely.



This is what I found previously linking the ‘seven gates’ to colours and actions:

First Gate:
The Chakra colour that corresponds to this gate is Violet.
The Guardian/Gatekeeper/Custodian of this gate forces the Goddess to surrender her belt or sandals. By doing this, she relinquishes her Will.

Second Gate:
The Chakra colour that corresponds to this gate is Indigo.
The Guardian/Gatekeeper/ Custodian of this gate forces the Goddess to surrender her bracelets or jewelled anklets. By doing this, she relinquishes her Ego.

Third Gate:
The Chakra colour that corresponds to this gate is Blue.
The Guardian/Gatekeeper/ Custodian of this gate forces the Goddess to surrender her robe. By doing this, she relinquishes her Mind.

Fourth Gate:
The Chakra colour that corresponds to this gate is Green.
The Guardian/Gatekeeper/ Custodian of this gate forces the Goddess to surrender her Breastplate/Breast Cups. By doing this, she relinquishes her Sex Role.

Fifth Gate:
The Chakra colour that corresponds to this gate is Yellow.
The Guardian/Gatekeeper/ Custodian of this gate forces the Goddess to surrender her starred-rainbow necklace. By doing this, she relinquishes her Illumination.

Sixth Gate:
The Chakra colour that corresponds to this gate is Orange.
The Guardian/Gatekeeper/ Custodian of this gate forces the Goddess to surrender her earrings. By doing this, she relinquishes her Magic.

Seventh Gate:
The Chakra colour that corresponds to this gate is Red.
The Guardian/Gatekeeper/ Custodian of this gate forces the Goddess to surrender her thousand-petaled crown called a diadem. By doing this, she relinquishes her Godhood.

It was only when the Goddess was completely naked, stripped of her magical powers, defenceless and extremely vulnerable that she could enter the eternal cave-like realm of the Underworld.

Thanks,,,

So we're literally chasing rainbows.
Don't even like Lucky Charms.

 

[Davri Anders]

Well this is embarrassing!

So now I'm sat at Diaguandri contemplating ...

it is rumoured that "Ken Bruce may be a Thargoid agent".

 

[lorrad]

Just out of curiosity, have you tried going high "above" Bovomit? Their should be some beacon-like bright stars, up to 1000Ly in Y+ (why not minus? there's this passage where the old women spoke of a view high above the galaxy). Though I doubt that with current drives they are reachable.

No didn't go up there, Bovomit goes about -450 to + 450 and the stars and routing are pretty thin. From there the galaxy just fits diagonally across the screen.