The Formidine Rift - Part 2

[Rudolphus]

well many have already did search the R/R line and nothing is found, the only anomaly we found are systems that requires something to enter for me is it logical to investigate it how to get acces so that we can scrap it away as possibility

also the r/r line have also a z axis so I wonder why the DRYO AEB sector and not the Sirks sector is in the mapping project

Sorry, I see no logic in your argument. You seem to be saying "I have been to some unrelated places that are not in the Rift, so the Rift is in the wrong place".

You can search where you like, but you seem to be totally ignoring the RR Line clue

 

[Dweezle]

Hi,

I'm heading out in the direction of the Formidine Rift, and am now about 1500ly from Terra. For the past hour or so, this object has been in the general vicinity of my path. So what is it? Is it a galaxy? A nebulae? It appears to be getting larger, so that would rule out galaxy, I think.

(I couldn't upload the .png for some reason.)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4QESdNmbCJSSXc1UGVYa2VHUnc/view?usp=sharing

 

[Dommarraa]

Anyone got suggestions on "cool things to see in the rift"?

My "fly around randomly" strategy is getting to me.

Join the Rifters Sheet. Find a Subsector, and scan it all.

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also the r/r line have also a z axis so I wonder why the DRYO AEB sector and not the Sirks sector is in the mapping project

The only SubSectors on the sheet are the ones people have entered, it is NOT an extensive list. I looked at the map approx every 500ly along the line to give people a set of way points, there are thousands of subsectors to be added to the list within just 1 degree of the RR Line.

 

[Dommarraa]

well many have already did search the R/R line and nothing is found, the only anomaly we found are systems that requires something to enter for me is it logical to investigate it how to get acces so that we can scrap it away as possibility

I think you are missing the scale of the area. The RR Line has been searched less than 1% even by those not bothering with the sheet.


8000ly from the Rift to the Edge. In Economy Mode. Fully Scanning Each System : Thats just a single line, there are millions of them

 

[Rudolphus]

I assume she have not been there already and doing the DWE is for building up exploration skills, I believe there was a point that Kahina would become a power in Powerplay.
And I assume something did go wrong between Drew & Frontier, Drew postponed his Kahina quest (and dismantled the seven veils you can find posts on the forum and his page wat sound disgruntled)
and frontier did place Zemina or Patreus as power in powerplay

Regardless, if the old woman's Cobra was an Apocalypse Engineering model or not, we currently assume Kahina was able to visit the rift and see whatever it is to be seen there in her Clipper? Or even in the Asp Explorer she is currently flying.

A quick look at the timeline, the only time she could have visited the rift in the Clipper is some time between 6 May 3301 and 21 Jul 3301. After which the Clipper was found abandoned at Capitol spaceport on Achenar. After that I presume she was flying the Asp?

I'd love to know what Salomé has been doing since she disappeared in July last year up until now...

 

[Jaiotu]

Hi,

I'm heading out in the direction of the Formidine Rift, and am now about 1500ly from Terra. For the past hour or so, this object has been in the general vicinity of my path. So what is it? Is it a galaxy? A nebulae? It appears to be getting larger, so that would rule out galaxy, I think.

(I couldn't upload the .png for some reason.)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4QESdNmbCJSSXc1UGVYa2VHUnc/view?usp=sharing

That looks like NGC 7822. It's a good oasis to visit on a detour toward the Rift. The bright stars are very hot 'O' class bodies and many of those stars share the system with a blackhole. Blackholes, of course, are paydirt if you want to make a living as an explorer.

 

[Rudolphus]

Well I say go for it scan millions of systems. but i don't believe that wil bring us to the answers.

when you have a hardworking commander he scans maybe 500 on a day/365 day is 183K a year you need 100 of more cmdrs doing this.
It would be bad game design when you need to find it this way, also i believe that it will be a cluster of systems with traffic if it will be a alien race or inra with secret bases

I think you are missing the scale of the area. The RR Line has been searched less than 1% even by those not bothering with the sheet.


8000ly from the Rift to the Edge. In Economy Mode. Fully Scanning Each System : Thats just a single line, there are millions of them

 

[Dommarraa]

Well I say go for it scan millions of systems. but i don't believe that wil bring us to the answers.

when you have a hardworking commander he scans maybe 500 on a day/365 day is 183K a year you need 100 of more cmdrs doing this.
It would be bad game design when you need to find it this way, also i believe that it will be a cluster of systems with traffic if it will be a alien race or inra with secret bases

Just spit-balled some numbers. Looks like about 3 Million stars per 1 cubic Kylie in a fairly sparse region (I'm in the Sag-Carina arm). So 240 million stars between the rift and the edge (ish).
Not accurate figures, but probably within an order.
Waiting for more clues is not a dumb thing to do, but neither is just getting on with it.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Regardless, if the old woman's Cobra was an Apocalypse Engineering model or not, we currently assume Kahina was able to visit the rift and see whatever it is to be seen there in her Clipper? Or even in the Asp Explorer she is currently flying.

A quick look at the timeline, the only time she could have visited the rift in the Clipper is some time between 6 May 3301 and 21 Jul 3301. After which the Clipper was found abandoned at Capitol spaceport on Achenar. After that I presume she was flying the Asp?

I'd love to know what Salomé has been doing since she disappeared in July last year up until now...

From Drew's comments & dates given in the book:
The events of Elite:Reclamation occured in AD3300 (Kahina/Salome in hospital on Ferenchia to get her space immunity meds when she met an old lady who was a former Elite spacer & who commented on the Rift & mentioned the R_R line).

Kahina was visiting the Sol system, as reported in Galnet posts, from 09Feb3301 to 02April3301. I suspect in May, while "Seven Veils" was being supposedly upgraded in Avalon shipyard, she bought the white Asp there, transferred the best equipment to it & Hassan flew the Asp to Achenar while she flew the Seven Veils there.

In the Elite:Reclamation epilogue: around June 3301, Kahina/Salomé & Hassan were on Achenar breaking into the Imperial databank to find the evidence on the Rift, & they left in the Asp.

From June/July 3301 to Jan3302 she was presumably off investigating the Rift. In January 3302 she joined the Distant Worlds Expedition- but we don't know why or what she was looking for. Perhaps if we find the Mystery of the Rift we might better understand.

 

[Jaiotu]

Just spit-balled some numbers. Looks like about 3 Million stars per 1 cubic Kylie in a fairly sparse region (I'm in the Sag-Carina arm). So 240 million stars between the rift and the edge (ish).
Not accurate figures, but probably within an order.
Waiting for more clues is not a dumb thing to do, but neither is just getting on with it.

Your spreadsheet method of canvassing the area may be somewhat "boring" but without further clues is probably the best method. If we don't know exactly what we are looking for at least this gives us a list of systems where "it" isn't.

Honestly... my purpose in exploring the Rift right now isn't because I expect to find something right now. We need more clues. I do, however, believe that those clues are coming Soon™ and want to be in the region when those clues come in. I may not be the first to find "it" but I hope to be among the first to see "it" once "it" has been found. So I'll probably spend an equal amount of time wandering the Rift aimlessly and doing full sector scans. I don't think I have the fortitude to spend all my time in the spreadsheet but I can certainly spend some of my time in it.

 

[Crom Dubh]

As I'm moseying back to the bubble for repairs and a module change around, I think I'll check Achenar and Shinrarta Dezhra for anything of interest. Just feel we must be missing something. Curious Drew used the term 'broadly correct' - it implies there is some something erroneous.

 

[Dommarraa]

As I'm moseying back to the bubble for repairs and a module change around, I think I'll check Achenar and Shinrarta Dezhra for anything of interest. Just feel we must be missing something. Curious Drew used the term 'broadly correct' - it implies there is some something erroneous.

As an armchair astrogator (never actually been there) I have a feeling that Erimus's area goes too far to the North. The Formidine Bridge actually being the edge, which makes the RR Line more central.
It doesnt really matter, it is only defined in Drews head, and 10 Kylie is plenty close enough.

 

[Tall Bird]

Great work Tall Bird!
Just for completeness could you add the urls to the originals? In science it is important to be able to check back to the original sources of supporting information!
thx Jorki

If you click on the little forward button of the quote, you should be forwarded to the URLs. There's two or three in there that don't forward to the right comment, but nearly all do.
EDIT: Thanks for mentioning it, LuckyLuke. ^_^

 

[Muetdhiver]

I share this feeling. IMO RR+/-10° is probably about right.

I finished scanning all NGC 581 objects and pulsars in the gap, and I will now start with NGC 7790 objects while meditating on the clues.
Without finding a way to narrow things down with the clues, brute force will most likely fail.
It would be another matter if we could somehow reduce the search to one sector or a few type of stellar objects for example.

 

[Dweezle]

That looks like NGC 7822. It's a good oasis to visit on a detour toward the Rift. The bright stars are very hot 'O' class bodies and many of those stars share the system with a blackhole. Blackholes, of course, are paydirt if you want to make a living as an explorer.

Thanks! I'll check it out.

Of course, hitting paydirt requires me to make it out alive.

 

[Kitty]

There have been references to a "Dark Wheel". I was thinking that perhaps I was some sort of Coriolis station which was unlit. but then I came across this and wondered if this is what it could mean. A dark Gas Giant with rings.. Dark and wheel like.

Kitty

 

[Jaiotu]

There have been references to a "Dark Wheel". I was thinking that perhaps I was some sort of Coriolis station which was unlit. but then I came across this and wondered if this is what it could mean. A dark Gas Giant with rings.. Dark and wheel like.

Kitty


http://i.imgur.com/tkMpsyO.jpg

Nice!

 

[Scinaya]

There have been references to a "Dark Wheel". I was thinking that perhaps I was some sort of Coriolis station which was unlit. but then I came across this and wondered if this is what it could mean. A dark Gas Giant with rings.. Dark and wheel like.

Kitty

http://i.imgur.com/tkMpsyO.jpg

Funny thing, I too thought today while flying by one gas giant that the rings resemble a wheel. I didn't give it a second thought, but maybe there could be something to it.

 

[Kitty]

Funny thing, I too thought today while flying by one gas giant that the rings resemble a wheel. I didn't give it a second thought, but maybe there could be something to it.

Dark Gas giants are quite rare. They are usually Blue, Cream/Blue, Brownish, Greenish. So these black ones, you dont usually come across them all that often. This is only my 2nd in around 800 jumps. The first one didn't have any rings, but this one does, and it suddenly struck me as being a dark wheel. I imagine that the reference would be to something that was probably rare. This kind of body maybe a candidate for consideration.

This was my last one.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

As an armchair astrogator (never actually been there) I have a feeling that Erimus's area goes too far to the North. The Formidine Bridge actually being the edge, which makes the RR Line more central.
It doesnt really matter, it is only defined in Drews head, and 10 Kylie is plenty close enough.

Interesting change of avatar! Inspired by the Monster Spreadsheet? Or what you expect to find in the Rift?