The Formidine Rift - Part 2

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My thoughts exactly, and to add to this I don't believe Drew has seen or knows exactly what it is either. It's being fed to him by Frontier via clues to pass on. He's said multiple times that we've had to wait because Frontier hasn't told him anything to pass on. The biggest piece is the "depends on who goes looking for it" that's what we have to define first before we can truly pinpoint a course.

He stated in the podcast that he KNOWS what it is, and what the story is. Other authors books will feed into it is also what I took from it. But he essentially overanalyzed some hints, and tossed them aside not realizing what we had right in front of us. We need to re-examine all the clues from the book and galnet and try to look at them a little more simply and direct. Yes, it won't be easy, but the clues we've had a simply the start of what we need to begin our search.
 
My thoughts exactly, and to add to this I don't believe Drew has seen or knows exactly what it is either. It's being fed to him by Frontier via clues to pass on. He's said multiple times that we've had to wait because Frontier hasn't told him anything to pass on. The biggest piece is the "depends on who goes looking for it" that's what we have to define first before we can truly pinpoint a course.

Just a quick correction, Drew knows exactly what IT is, he worked with FD in developing the IT, the story line, lore, and where it is.
 
He stated in the podcast that he KNOWS what it is, and what the story is. Other authors books will feed into it is also what I took from it. But he essentially overanalyzed some hints, and tossed them aside not realizing what we had right in front of us. We need to re-examine all the clues from the book and galnet and try to look at them a little more simply and direct. Yes, it won't be easy, but the clues we've had a simply the start of what we need to begin our search.

Just a quick correction, Drew knows exactly what IT is, he worked with FD in developing the IT, the story line, lore, and where it is.

See through all my searching I never heard that, thank you for the corrections CMDR's. My honest guess as to what it is is what I like to call the Miranda Theory, if any of you are familiar with the Firefly series you'll understand.
http://firefly.wikia.com/wiki/Miranda
 
Also, I do not know if it has been spotted by anyone before but here it is :

Kahina, the berber queen, was vanquished by Hassan Ibn en N'uman.

Coincidence... ?

She may have an "Et tu Hassan, et tu", moment coming her way.
I believe Hassan is the moral center and fail safe on Kahina.

I support Salome and C.o.R., because she has this off switch.
 
Tinfoil theory - start:

I looked on the names of Prism system bodies from different angle, you can say more scientific. Names of the stars are: Sapphire, Diamond, Prism and Ruby. Now lets assume, that Diamond represents white light, Sapphire blue light and Ruby red light. So, we have white light that comes through the prism and is refracted into variety of colors - the rainbow. Let's forget for a while, that there is violet, yellow, orange and other colors. We have blue and red color and form the standard RGB model we are missing the G - green color. Now what this could mean? A green star? There are no green stars in the universe, stars can look like green only through optical illusion - from wiki:

There a few stars in double or multiple star systems that appear greenish, even though they are really blue or white. This can happen if the star system contains a large red or orange star. An optical illusion causes things close to the red star to appear slightly greenish. The classical example is Antares B, the blue companion of the red supergiant Antares, and another example is the star system Almach.

Too common, to be of any significance in my opinion.

But if u put Green through ROT13, you get Terra - Earth. That's a nice coincidence isn't it?[big grin]

Tinfoil theory - end.

Good spot on the terra-green conection.

There is a lot pointing to light and colors being important. In adition to the Prism system, there were several pointers in the old Galnets.

- visit to Sol described as enlightening.
- Alliance shines light.
- gift of 'luominus' liqour.

There is something there. I just don't get it. :-/
 
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Good spot on the terra-green conection.

There is a lot pointing to light and colors being important. In adition to the Prism system, there were several pointers in the old Galnets.

- visit to Sol described as enlightening.
- Alliance shines light.
- gift of 'luominus' liqour.

There is something there. I just don't get it. :-/

Is there a star visible from Sol at the vernal equinox (when she is at Earth and Mars) that would meet the requirements of the optical illusion green stars?
 
Warning: utter tinfoilery incoming. A few random searches on google led me to a site full of religious mumbo jumbo, which had the title "Lifting the Seven Veils of illusion on the path to enlightenment" According to this page, each veil is denoted as a different colour, and dissolves when a certain level of enlightenment has been attained. The first veil (which is red) gets removed once you realise that you are in charge of your own path, and you take mastery of your own life. Well, Salome has certainly done that just recently, no? Coupled with the knowledge that her ship is named the Seven Veils...is she trying to follow her own path to enlightenment? Curiously, it also reads that the seventh and final veil, is only dissolved upon death, and only if you are ready for it to happen. I dunno. I'm 99.9% I've read too much into it yet again, and am just conveniently applying it to this case.
 

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Is there a star visible from Sol at the vernal equinox (when she is at Earth and Mars) that would meet the requirements of the optical illusion green stars?

Hmm... found this:



Hamal – also known as Alpha Arietis – shines as the brightest star in the constellation Aries the Ram. This star and two others – Sheratan and Mesarthim – make up the Head of the Ram. Aries is small. But the compact pattern of these three stars makes Aries relatively easy to find. As seen from mid-northern latitudes, Hamal lights up the eastern sky on autumn evenings, shines high in the southern sky on winter evenings, and sits in the west on early spring evenings. Hamal disappears from the night sky in April, then returns to the eastern sky before sunrise by late spring or early summer, to begin another cycle of visibility.

It’s fun to spot Hamal and its brother stars in the night sky. But this star also has a profound significance in the history of astronomy.

If you could see the stars in daytime, you’d see the sun and Hamal in conjunction (lined up with one another, due north and south in right ascension) on or near April 24. What this means is that – when the sun appears due south at noon – Hamal is due south, too, though lost in the glare of the noonday sun.

April 24 – the date of Hamal’s conjunction with the sun – is a little more than one month after the March equinox, which always takes place around March 20. This is the Northern Hemisphere’s spring equinox, and it’s a time of renewal throughout the northern half of Earth. So of course this time of year had significance to our ancestors, who were much more aware than we are of their dependence on the land and sky.

What is the relationship of Hamal to the March equinox? If you could backtrack some 2,500 years, you’d find the annual conjunction of the sun and Hamal happening on the March equinox. In fact, if you could backtrack 2,200 years, we’d find the March equinox sun in conjunction with the star Sheratan. So you see that the location of the sun at the March equinox sun drifts in front of the stars. It moves westward in front of the backdrop constellations by about one degree (two sun diameters) every 72 years. This drifting is due to a well-known motion of Earth called precession, or sometimes the precession of the equinoxes.

The March equinox sun shone in front of the constellation Aries from about 2,000 to 100 BCE. At present, the sun shines in front of the constellation Pisces on the March equinox. Even so, many people pay homage to the Ram and still refer to the March equinox point as the First Point of Aries.

Bottom line: The star Hamal, also known as Alpha Arietis, is the brightest star in Aries the Ram. Thousands of years ago, the sun was in conjunction – or aligned north and south – with this star at the time of the March equinox. Nowadays, we see the sun in front of Pisces at the time of the March equinox. But people still refer to the sun’s location at the equinox as the First Point in Aries.
 
Good spot on the terra-green conection.

There is a lot pointing to light and colors being important. In adition to the Prism system, there were several pointers in the old Galnets.

- visit to Sol described as enlightening.
- Alliance shines light.
- gift of 'luominus' liqour.

There is something there. I just don't get it. :-/
Same here - lost ...
... religious mumbo jumbo ... in the end it might be this..
I even used Stellarium, put the date of 3001 in, earth and did a sweep to see anything of interest. zero...
Arghhh - searching for clues
[video=youtube;2zE1LbC4Fvs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zE1LbC4Fvs[/video]
 
Good spot on the terra-green conection.

There is a lot pointing to light and colors being important. In adition to the Prism system, there were several pointers in the old Galnets.

- visit to Sol described as enlightening.
- Alliance shines light.
- gift of 'luominus' liqour.

There is something there. I just don't get it. :-/

Ya there was also the Prisms shades art exhibit where Aisling? Wore a special visor... Wasn't sure if it was connected or not but it seemed like it was trying to hint at something
 
- gift of 'luominus' liqour.

I've seen the 'luminous' liquor mentioned several times by people but never seen an actual source. The galnet article simply refers to "Gerasian Liquor' which isn't actually in game. The Geaisian rare is 'beer'. The beer has a luminous color because the a protein from the algae used to brew the beer is bio-luminescent.. I've never seen a reference that actually explicitly says the liquor was 'luminous', it's just inferred. I have seen folks state that the galnet article said she was given an 'luminous liquor' at the Concert but I think they've just conflated two different galnet articles.

The above isn't intended to refute the relevance of 'light', I'm genuinely curious about whether the liquor itself was luminous and if I'm missing an actual reference some where.
 
Ya there was also the Prisms shades art exhibit where Aisling? Wore a special visor...

"Aisling Opens Art Installation on Emerald
The People's Princess made an appearance in Cemiess late last night to attend the opening of Emerald's newest art installation, 'Prism's Shades', a multi-sensory experience that uses experimental light and sound projection technology to stimulate a series of empathic responses from its audience.
Aisling dazzled crowds by dressing in a long-sleeved ruby red evening gown, adorned with painite sparkles. She accessorised with an equally stunning tinted visor, fashionably stamped with Aisling's personal crest.

Surprisingly, the people's princess only stayed at the installation for a little over an hour. Aisling left the show long before midnight, citing exhaustion from her recent activities in the Summerlands as the reason behind her early exit."

There's the piece in question, not sure too much springs out at me immediately, certainly without access to any such device of our own...although Emerald would be an obvious "green" link, maybe too obvious.
 
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Going through galnet from the start found this
09 FEB 3301

Prism Senator Courts Controversy Again!

In a move which is likely to further increase tensions between the Federation and the Empire, a high ranking Lady of the Empire has been denied access to the Sol system.

Lady Kahina Tijani Loren, the Senator from the Prism system, was on a diplomatic mission at the behest of Chancellor Blaine when her Imperial Courier was interdicted whilst jumping into the Sol system.

According to Imperial sources, Lady Kahina’s vessel came under attack by unidentified ships, but fought its way free despite suffering significant damage during the incident.

Federal representatives insist that the Imperials failed to file a valid itinerary, which resulted in a lack of an escort through Federal space. The Empire has demanded a formal apology from the Federation, but so far this demand has gone unanswered.

Lady Kahina was quoted as saying, "I don't like to be late."
 
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If I was correct in my previous post, that only means, that some of the clues are pretty straightforward and obvious.
And that is where the problem is - after the UA being pretty sophisticated. But we tried to take it by the word, metaphors, mythology, etc. seems to totally elude us. :/
 
Regarding the Galnet article where Kahina is given the Gerasian Liquor (https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/310bb3da7024bf764d4af6bba1321447e92d681b), we're told that it's been recently outlawed in all of Imperial space. Isn't that really weird?

Frontier themselves say "In the Empire, very little is illegal but many things are frowned upon; excessive use of narcotics, in particular." (https://www.elitedangerous.com/en/story/galactic-superpowers-empire)

What's up with this liquor, and why was it made illegal in Imperial space? Is Gerasian Gueuze Beer illegal in the Empire?

Edit - The quote “They really needn’t worry, I’ll drink it all before I get home.” is really standing out to me, and I don't know why. Google comes up with nothing special.
 
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Going through galnet from the start found this
09 FEB 3301

Prism Senator Courts Controversy Again!

In a move which is likely to further increase tensions between the Federation and the Empire, a high ranking Lady of the Empire has been denied access to the Sol system.

Lady Kahina Tijani Loren, the Senator from the Prism system, was on a diplomatic mission at the behest of Chancellor Blaine when her Imperial Courier was interdicted whilst jumping into the Sol system.

According to Imperial sources, Lady Kahina’s vessel came under attack by unidentified ships, but fought its way free despite suffering significant damage during the incident.

Federal representatives insist that the Imperials failed to file a valid itinerary, which resulted in a lack of an escort through Federal space. The Empire has demanded a formal apology from the Federation, but so far this demand has gone unanswered.

Lady Kahina was quoted as saying, "I don't like to be late."

From this article I can only ask,

Why was she denied access when she had a meeting already setup with Blaine?

Was she actually denied access? seems to me she got in, and was attacked, yet by whom? Who would want to prevent the meeting from happening?

As for not wanting to be late, maybe her timeline is strict based upon the seriousness of the information she is after..? or she simply doesn't like to be late..?
 
Has anyone tried combing all the Galnet articles, extracting all Kahina's quotes, lining them up, and seeing we get a pattern or code or something from the first letters, last letters, crossword, or something like that?

Edited to add:

Using http://ed.frank-heinrich.net/index.php?title=Galnet_Collection_Senator_Kahina as a guide, for direct quotes, I get:

I don't like to be late.
As I said before, I don't like to be late.
As I said before, I don't like to be late.
When I receive one, I shall let you know.
We Imperials often do get accused of being arrogant and overbearing, but at least we're good at it.
They really needn’t worry, I’ll drink it all before I get home.
Oh, that’s easy. Neither.
Slavery is a safety net, it ensures nobody can starve or fall into poverty.

The main thing that jumps out to me is, as has been said before, the line "I don't like to be late" is pretty clearly and blatantly emphasized.
 
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