the FSS, watching paint dry....
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Give yourself more time to learn it. The honk gives you a nice overview of the contents of the system - it does not give you pretty pictures, or the arrangement of planets, but it does tell you at a glance if there is an ELW or WW, or if the entire system is rocky.
They are easier to find now. I'm not kidding. In the past, you might mistake an ELW for a WW or vice versa. Each time you make a mistake, you just wasted some amount of time flying out to the planet to scan it. Hilariously, you scan it without even getting close enough to see it. With the new system, you instantly know if an ELW exists. If not, you continue on your way. If one does exist, you use the scanner to find it, and that's more rewarding than flying out to it (but not close enough to see it) in supercruise.
At that point, you have the same amount of money as you would have had under the old system. You can now decide if you also want to map it and get more money.
Not played more than a couple of hours in the last few months. Had a sniff at beta and wasn't keen with the faffing (for exploration). Updated the game yesterday, logged in, found all my custom keybindings had gone although I only had an XBOX pad plugged in. Will have another punt over the weekend with the HOTAS but in all likelyhood I've probably reached the end of my ED journey o7
This fss system feels more like I'm getting 'probed', but enough of that I'm happy that you are happy.
I am sorry, but you still don't really understand how the system works.
The FSS replaces BOTH the ADS and DSS. So where in the past you had to honk, then fly to the planet (even if it is 700k LS away); you now get the same result from using only the FSS. Yes, that includes 'first discovered tags'. It is MUCH faster. The probing is optional, and is a whole new layer.
I haven't managed to complete the key mapping required to get it to work
Lesson in life, don't use controllers without understanding how they work and interact with the game.
Lesson in life, don't use controllers without understanding how they work and interact with the game.
perhaps try it before making an incorrect statement. i was 10 jumps from Great Annihilator when the update dropped. i hit the GA (and crapped myself with the distortion effect of that gigantic singularity and aborted my trip to Sag A* lol) and headed for one of the colonia truck stops to change underwear - er i mean to sell data. yes nothing to do with underwear.
anyways. you jump in, set yourself refueling and the honk should have gone off. you go to FSS mode AND LOOK AT IT. there is even a little thing comes up when you move the line left and right that tells you what lines in that area mean. right in the middle is riocky bodies and ice bodies slightly left, and just a micron right, a peak there indicates ELW then right of that is amonia worlds and right of that place is for water worlds. keep going right its all gas giants. any signal sources would be on the left end.
i have seen plenty of waterworlds in the new system and one of my first five jumps i found an ELW. and all without moving from refueling! then i flew to the ELW and used the probes to MAP it. thats all new and all EXTRA credits. plus i enjoy the little challenge game of trying to get the eifficiency bonus.
i have plenty of experience with the old system. i could never tell if that blue world on sysmap was an ELW or waterworld or just a high metal with atmosphere pretending. only way to find out and get the credits was to FLY there even if it was way the hell 500,000 LS away. lots of time wasted flying from one star through empty dead space to another on a MAYBE which mostly turned out to NOT BE. not any more. i wish i had this system when i was out at horsehead before it all went permit lock or on my other trip i had to abort at 14000 ly out because i lost a fight with a secondary star on the way to the drop in at the primary, and hadnt fitted a repair module...
Very good reply, which sums it up pretty well.
i know. it gets easier when the novelty wears off though, it has for me. almost. i caught myself stopping a jump to map a metal rich that was so close i saw it moving as i charged today. i must be more disciplined.
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The new FSS is ten times better then the old system, why? Just read all posts by Sleutelbos.
Yeah scanning a system with 65 bodies takes a while but try getting all the info you get in the old system.
It takes only seconds to check the FSS after the honk for ELWs or WWs or USSs if that's what you're looking for, imho it's a huge improvement.
You can still honk and jump and still get payed too if your in for the credits, which I'm not btw.
Yeah scanning a system with 65 bodies takes a while but try getting all the info you get in the old system.
It takes only seconds to check the FSS after the honk for ELWs or WWs or USSs if that's what you're looking for, imho it's a huge improvement.
You can still honk and jump and still get payed too if your in for the credits, which I'm not btw.
It completely ruins any immersion that there my be in my opinion. One minute (VR) im sitting in my ship, the next I'm sitting on nothing, in nothing, looking at some FSS screen, then I'm back to my ship when I exit the screen. At the very minimum the screen should be overlaid on the main HUD.
I know it's 'just a game' but it's unbelievable that any pilot would bring up a screen which completely obscured his external view. At the same time, they [fdev] want us to believe that we're under attack from aliens.
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Found the keymapping pretty easy myself.
One button to switch mode (analysis on, analysis off same button), one button for FSS on and same button FSS off, primary fire to enter DSS (same to fire probe) secondary fire to back out of DSS. All the rest point and zoom controls as usual. (I use same buttons as SYS and WEP pip control to move the FSS tuner left and right).
I've discovered that - as part of the community exploration - if planets have first discovery on them, they autopopulate and appear as unexplored (same as used to follow honk) and you can still fly up to them to discover, same as before. The nice thing being you don't have to and can tell what they are, before you travel.
To me it feels like proper exploration, not so much distance covered maybe, but more granular - higher detail. Spent an hour tonight in one system, logging geological sites. I knew what was in the system inside 30 seconds though, the rest was for surveying and surface mapping all planets, then flying down to scan composition on 4 different planets. I find the UI intuitive, space age and an actual activity .. that honk and endless supercruising never, ever was.
One button to switch mode (analysis on, analysis off same button), one button for FSS on and same button FSS off, primary fire to enter DSS (same to fire probe) secondary fire to back out of DSS. All the rest point and zoom controls as usual. (I use same buttons as SYS and WEP pip control to move the FSS tuner left and right).
I've discovered that - as part of the community exploration - if planets have first discovery on them, they autopopulate and appear as unexplored (same as used to follow honk) and you can still fly up to them to discover, same as before. The nice thing being you don't have to and can tell what they are, before you travel.
To me it feels like proper exploration, not so much distance covered maybe, but more granular - higher detail. Spent an hour tonight in one system, logging geological sites. I knew what was in the system inside 30 seconds though, the rest was for surveying and surface mapping all planets, then flying down to scan composition on 4 different planets. I find the UI intuitive, space age and an actual activity .. that honk and endless supercruising never, ever was.
Why should exploring be a quick affair? Its not supposed to be a race...
Note; im not saying the new system is perfect, it could definitely be expanded, adjusted and streamlined, but im happy exploration isnt just "jump, honk, repeat". I welcome the codex giving us something to "chase", and the new system taking some player interaction to actually explore a system and I hope they expand on it a great deal down the line.
Im glad the placeholder that was the old system is gone with, for a main activity of the game it was just a disaster.
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I can understand that this in VR doesn't feel "connected". For anyone not playing VR, it is like watching a monitor feed.
Hard to balance I guess, between VR and flat-screen players.
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Just leave the condescension to those of us who are able to spell "hoping", okay?! [big grin]
Judging from the tone of this thread I'd surmise that the old status quo drove all the real explorers away from the profession and there are few left to take up the mantle.
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