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CMDR Dreamstate

CMDR Dreamstate
Okay guys, so...

With some help from Canonn on Discord (CMDR Vallor), I've been using this http://www.geomidpoint.com/ to get some co-ordinates to try out...

I believe Melville found the Unique layout - but we didn't understand this symbol:

GUARDIAN.jpg


Quite simply, I believe it means this, if my Guardian symbolism is up to scratch:

GUARDIAN01.jpg


By using the co-ordinate system, I have these locations for us to search!

Search Area One:
Latitude: 5.74039
Longitude: 97.678308

Search Area Two:
Latitude: 4.085175
Longitude: 127.8766

Search Area Three:
Latitude: -14.568747
Longitude: 89.575439

Search Area Four:
Latitude: -18.803486
Longitude: 103.385655

Search Area Five:
Latitude: -12.786667
Longitude: 89.896667

[List of Original Co-Ordinate Data here]
Guardian Structure Co-ordinates:
54.7007
-118.1836

Ruin A:
-10.0700
114.5000

Ruin B:
-37.3100
106.4200

Ruin C:
9.0200
48.7700

Why this world? Quite simply, it fits the most (from what I can see on the System Maps etc). All 3 Ancient Ruins face the star, and the Guardian Structure is situated on the dark side.

I believe we should leave no stone un-turned - I'm going to be searching in Horizons (the expansion may bug the ruin we're looking for!) - all need to be searched, but I heavily suspect the Unique Layout to be near the terminator (the line between light and dark).

Happy hunting!
 

CMDR Dreamstate

CMDR Dreamstate
Synuefe TP-F B44-0 CD 1

Another world that has what we're looking for from Melville's planets. 3 ruins, all on the light side, and a Structure on the dark side.

Terminator needs searching too.

CD 1 GR9 Gamma 59.3300, 15.1000
CD 1 GR10 Beta 31.9672, -100.0063
CD 1 GR11 Alpha 31.8800, -100.0500
CD 1 Structure -27.3291, -17.1645

Search Area One:
35.008158, -59.857636

Search Area Two:
23.962025, -50.5302

Search Area Three:
51.030351, -82.708102

Search Area Four:
41.059067, -61.6521

This was really simple to triangulate because two ancient ruins are situated next to each other. High chance on this planet.
 

AnnaKalessa

AnnaKalessa
Today I studied star maps from astronomy textbooks and came to an idea.
Assuming that the Ancient Ruins alpha is indeed the Temple of Orion / Warrior / Hunter (More likely a Hunter. This is more in line with the spirit of the Guardians, like the double arm in the constellation Orion, which can be interpreted as an additional joint with a claw), and each "sanctuary" corresponds to a certain celestial object, then the decoding of the values depends on the point of view of the observer. Literally.

If we look from the side of the human "Bubble" then

Star map link, Ruins map drawing in MadSkills style.
 

CMDR Dreamstate

CMDR Dreamstate
SYNUEFE NL-N C23-4 B 3

Yep! Another world that has what we're looking for from Melville's planets. 3 ruins, all on the dark side, and a Structure on the light side. (could be problematic for the search).

Terminator needs searching too!

B 3 GR13 Alpha -30.5400, -24.2000
B 3 GR22 Alpha 0.6600, -36.8200
B 3 GR64 Gamma 48.1800, -48.3600
B 3 Structure 51.2218, 89.0786

Search Area One:
25.054442, -22.012801

Search Area Two:
5.30927, -33.798766

Search Area Three:
17.38045, -5.07535

Search Area Four:
5.692191, -35.56154

Search Area Five:
6.1, -36.46

Big thanks to CMDR HunabKU for looking up the sites and grabbing me the co-ordinates from the other two of Melville's systems.

The Guardian Structure here is right near the terminator - and the Structure itself can be used to get blue prints... updated the graphic below to perhaps certify this (I did wonder what the mound could have been). High chance it could be this one.

GUARDIAN01.jpg
 
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CMDR Dreamstate

CMDR Dreamstate
AnnaKalessa said:
Today I studied star maps from astronomy textbooks and came to an idea.
Assuming that the Ancient Ruins alpha is indeed the Temple of Orion / Warrior / Hunter (More likely a Hunter. This is more in line with the spirit of the Guardians, like the double arm in the constellation Orion, which can be interpreted as an additional joint with a claw), and each "sanctuary" corresponds to a certain celestial object, then the decoding of the values depends on the point of view of the observer. Literally.

If we look from the side of the human "Bubble" then

Star map link, Ruins map drawing in MadSkills style.
Click to expand...
Impressive work!

I suspect there must be more to it :)
 

AnnaKalessa

AnnaKalessa
Well.
From the point of view of the Guardian "Bubble" in the Synuefe sector, the picture on Orion is almost the same as from the human "Bubble".

Perhaps we are dealing with the Guardian Exiles architecture?

And in that case, the ruins of the gamma type are really the Temple of the Two Tribes and their architecture symbolically depicts the Cone Nebula?
Photo of ruins, photo of the Cone Nebula.
 
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AnnaKalessa

AnnaKalessa
I tried to draw a map of "Temple of the Orion / Hunter" more details with approximate viewpoints and angles.

And if everything is correct, then perhaps we are really dealing with the architecture of the exiles whose route passed from the Cone Nebula to the heat of war in the Barnard's Loop Nebula, and then from there, bypassing the hostile territories of the Thargoids to the human "Bubble" and the Synuefe sector, where the exiles established outposts for observing the Thargoids in the Col 70 sector and as a shield, later flying closer to the center of the galaxy.

https://imgur.com/GZ1Jaig
https://imgur.com/kBiFwyZ
 
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Daverex

Daverex
CMDR Dreamstate said:
Okay guys, so...

With some help from Canonn on Discord (CMDR Vallor), I've been using this http://www.geomidpoint.com/ to get some co-ordinates to try out...

I believe Melville found the Unique layout - but we didn't understand this symbol:

View attachment 243421

Quite simply, I believe it means this, if my Guardian symbolism is up to scratch:

View attachment 243422

By using the co-ordinate system, I have these locations for us to search!

Search Area One:
Latitude: 5.74039
Longitude: 97.678308

Search Area Two:
Latitude: 4.085175
Longitude: 127.8766

Search Area Three:
Latitude: -14.568747
Longitude: 89.575439

Search Area Four:
Latitude: -18.803486
Longitude: 103.385655

Search Area Five:
Latitude: -12.786667
Longitude: 89.896667

[List of Original Co-Ordinate Data here]
Guardian Structure Co-ordinates:
54.7007
-118.1836

Ruin A:
-10.0700
114.5000

Ruin B:
-37.3100
106.4200

Ruin C:
9.0200
48.7700

Why this world? Quite simply, it fits the most (from what I can see on the System Maps etc). All 3 Ancient Ruins face the star, and the Guardian Structure is situated on the dark side.

I believe we should leave no stone un-turned - I'm going to be searching in Horizons (the expansion may bug the ruin we're looking for!) - all need to be searched, but I heavily suspect the Unique Layout to be near the terminator (the line between light and dark).

Happy hunting!
Click to expand...

Why are you acting like all of these planets are tidally locked to their stars? There's no way that your calculations can be determined using the Current terminator horizon unless the planet is in fact tidally locked.
 

CMDR Dreamstate

CMDR Dreamstate
Daverex said:
Why are you acting like all of these planets are tidally locked to their stars? There's no way that your calculations can be determined using the Current terminator horizon unless the planet is in fact tidally locked.
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Not all of them are tidally locked, but the systems which Melville's crew point out are all worlds tidally lock :)

I think it must be one of the worlds in those systems which aren't binary planet pairs... it must be a planet tidally locked to its parent star.
 

Spacerschoice-00

S
CMDR Dreamstate said:
SYNUEFE NL-N C23-4 B 3

Yep! Another world that has what we're looking for from Melville's planets. 3 ruins, all on the dark side, and a Structure on the light side. (could be problematic for the search).

Terminator needs searching too!

B 3 GR13 Alpha -30.5400, -24.2000
B 3 GR22 Alpha 0.6600, -36.8200
B 3 GR64 Gamma 48.1800, -48.3600
B 3 Structure 51.2218, 89.0786

Search Area One:
25.054442, -22.012801

Search Area Two:
5.30927, -33.798766

Search Area Three:
17.38045, -5.07535

Search Area Four:
5.692191, -35.56154

Search Area Five:
6.1, -36.46

Big thanks to CMDR HunabKU for looking up the sites and grabbing me the co-ordinates from the other two of Melville's systems.

The Guardian Structure here is right near the terminator - and the Structure itself can be used to get blue prints... updated the graphic below to perhaps certify this (I did wonder what the mound could have been). High chance it could be this one.

View attachment 243513
Click to expand...
Searched, search area 2,4 and 5. With a srv.
Didn't see any Guardian anything. Very hilly terrain though if wanting to verify.

* Did find: while driving srv to each area.
2 wreckage of srv, ( Rescued 1 occupied escape pod)
3 crashed data point probes. (scanned them)
Found several arsenic and selenium, so totally worthwhile trip.
 

Q GT70

Q
I want to add that I did learn something from all this.
I never had a guardian key, never had any reason for 1, so I knew nothing about it.
I got the guardian stuff before it was nerfed and I got 3 of everything every scan, and everytime I scanned an orb I got different type of blueprint.
so I had about 75 vessel blueprints before we even knew what the ships were about..
saw lots of stories and pics about it later but had no reason yet to go to a space 'Key' dispenser

so, not having a key..I now have several.

but I wanted to point out that it seems like a real dangerous thing.
looks the same as a relic but its in a shield bubble and is handed out in space away from a planet.

fun stuff.
 
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