Maybe now folks will actually open their carriers for business and stop using them to hoard painite.
The Mining nerf was likely the worst implementation of a Balancing in Years...
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Tonight's research was as successful as last night's.
Or maybe it is a time for you to retire and make room for new players?? Maybe complaining about changes in the game is no longer viable option, maybe, just maybe, you forgot that it is 2020 and ED is what 6 years old?? Maybe FDev make those changes because they lose player base as the grind is OTT and artificially extending play time does not work for them the way they expected... Maybe giving the game for free was desperate attempt to recover from the falling numbers...
I said so.
And I would assume I was right.
Cause I keep checking Extraction Systems for such Missions.
And they are quite Rare.
Checked both Systems where I am Allied and Systems Neutral. But found no real Difference in Success.
Its not really a reliable way to make Money.
Hour Rates of Profit depend on the Source also being available inside that Time Frame.
If you need an Hour to Find a Mission which then Provides 20 Million Credits Profit for a 10 Minute Mission.
Then you ultimately still end up below 20 Million Credits per Hour.
So unless you can Guarantee actually Finding these Missions Reliably and Constantly. As well as them being something you can Source on Short Notice. You wont really get anywhere with it.
I have to agree. I was also looking at the missions in few extraction systems around my home. There are missions but yeah, nothing close to 30mil per mission... Most what I see is below 1mil...
i wait from six years a balance in the game economy, still nothing, ive no more hope. im sorry
All my trips for targets using BOTH INARA and eddb were ruined by reality - the prices were nothing near to what both sites have announced - the "cheap" tritium at 42-44 k was in fact over 52-56k, and Painite request in 4500+ units at 425k was in practice at 136k at a demand of 2700; I was loaded - in a trial & error trip - with only 10 units of Painite, and even so I got a shameful low price... 2700 demand, and they give me 136 k only... I just make the trip back to my FC without selling anything... was another frustrating experience, tough...
COMMUNITY COMPLAINS ABOUT MINING NEEDED A NERF
I'm not joking you, I told a friend about 6 months ago that as soon as they implemented something to fix people will nag about it. If the nerf was too hard "Man, they should have nerfed gradually, this is totally unfair!" if the nerf was too light "The nerf was too light! it fixes nothing!". And here we are.
I know most of the ED fan and community is not like this, but sometimes I feel like Frontier got the bottom of the barrel with some fans. NMS sold garbage and their fans remained loyal until they fixed it and now they want to erect a monument to them because they fixed the crap they sold to them. SC fans know the game will never be released but they still do not demand a refund or a strict audit to know for sure that they didn't use the money to invest in stocks, crypto, or something. But Elite fans... man... Frontier can't do anything without some of them complaining vigorously about it and how it was done.
I, for one, am happy that something is being done.
I'm not joking you, I told a friend about 6 months ago that as soon as they implemented something to fix people will nag about it. If the nerf was too hard "Man, they should have nerfed gradually, this is totally unfair!" if the nerf was too light "The nerf was too light! it fixes nothing!". And here we are.
I know most of the ED fan and community is not like this, but sometimes I feel like Frontier got the bottom of the barrel with some fans. NMS sold garbage and their fans remained loyal until they fixed it and now they want to erect a monument to them because they fixed the crap they sold to them. SC fans know the game will never be released but they still do not demand a refund or a strict audit to know for sure that they didn't use the money to invest in stocks, crypto, or something. But Elite fans... man... Frontier can't do anything without some of them complaining vigorously about it and how it was done.
I, for one, am happy that something is being done.
Some of us NMS players got a refund on launch day and never looked back. And now, it could be the preeminent game in the genre and HG would still not get my money.
That said, you make a good point. Regardless of what FDev did, it was always going to be wrong. Too much, too little or the player has no clue about what they are talking about.
Im even more inexperienced than you, I only ever mine for Mats, then give up when I dont find what I want and go do something else entirely, I get free money though for handing the by product stuff in so thats nice, last time I made 70K in an hour, totally free
Four reasons why. A) When Fdev decides to fix something, they pick literally THE WORST entry angle. B) They overcompensate by a lot when they do and C) They listen not to the people who are going to be chiefly affected by the nerf but rather the loud mouths who don't play that way but are perfectly happy letting Fdev know how they think OTHER people should play said profession and D) Most egregiously, Fdev doesn't play their own game. They just don't and as such dont understand how their own community works nor how the gameplay both designed and emergent systems work. To them this game is a job, make no mistake about that. it's a job to them, not a passion.
This is your opinion, which is clearly shared by some. But not all. They could have gotten 100% and there would still be an ocean of complaints.
As for D), after spending my day in the office working on ED, the last thing I'd want to do is go home and play it.. The former Exchange dev I know always recommended anything else. The Office dev used OpenOffice..
I'm not saying take the work home with you. I understand that tidbit. I used to work for CCP and EvE Online and yeah, it totally sucked all motivation to play it on my free time. It's like working for a donut shop, at first you're like "oh boy oh boy, all the free donuts I could ever want." in a matter of days, possibly a week, the smell of donuts make you gag. But that being said, when I was at work, I felt it was my obligation to at least try to look at whatever I was working on from the players point of view, what they would want, what they would need, etc. Hell, what I would want in their shoes. It's how the Orca was born. I worked passionately but I went home at night but gave it my all during the day.
Because thats not how things work.
If People give up on something and see no Hope for it. They wont Complain. They will write off the Loss and Move on.
Complaints are something you get when the Person intends to stick around. Something you get when your Game is good enough that People think its worth the Effort and Time Investment to try and Improve it.
Someone who is Convinced that SC will never be Finished or worth anything. Will Generally Demand a Refund or just Write it off. And no longer bother with it.
Someone who on Launch of NMS felt Cheated just asked for a Refund and left to not look back.
Now wether or not a Refund actually happens and if someone is ready to Expend the effort to get the Refund is another Story.
But the thing they dont do is waste more Time on it.
The Reason why People complain in Elite is because we have actual Expectations here.
We do think that this Game can become Better. And we do think its worth Investing the Time to Complain and Nag on the Devs to do a Better Job.
I said I have lost Trust and Hope in ED actually Delivering something when they make Vague Announcements.
I never said I lost Hope in Elite Dangerous as a Game.
In Fact I pointed out several Times that I still like ED. Even if I dont Trust the Devs to hold True on most of their Announcements.
I made about 5 Bil over the couple of days before the Nerf.
After all. I wanted to get my Carrier before the Nerf so I dont have to Spend Weeks Grinding for it.