Agreed. Osmium is the new Painite 
The new commoditiy system is screwed.
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I guess that gives us an idea how much those missions would be paying without the 50M payout cap
While I'll happily lap up the opportunity to support my faction and make fat stacks in the process, this is really just another round in the chamber for having delivery missions reward primarily on volume, not value.I guess that gives us an idea how much those missions would be paying without the 50M payout cap
This is just shy of 100m right here...
... and this just happened in one board gen:
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Yea, on paper it looks good. Why would everyone be worried?
And if FD has the same paper, no wonder this is happening
However, in practice, post July nerf of LDT prices, i was never been able to find a station to sell LTD at more than 950k per ton ( that was 1 single station, prices fell by 50% after selling about 600t).
I sold my 8500 tons, purchased for 1 million per ton for prices between 250k and 750k with the sole exception mentioned above. And even for 750k i was able to sell several hundred tons
The problem i see is not the fact that the prices dropped to 600k - but the fact that the prices dropped to under 300k
Painite:
Void Opals
Benitoite looks rather good, about 800k per tone - because probably nobody mines it, but when they will that will drop too...
And what is 12 millions tons demand ffor VO? what is the regen timer for VO demand?
Because 1000 miners, doing 80t per hour - that's 150h - less than a week to kill the demand for VO in the entire bubble
Na its being mined and its price is also dropping Its in the same rocky rings..
It was over 950K but has dropped constantly per sale as well...
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Looks good - how much is that it? 150 millions per hour? 200?
Guaranteed payout - heh mining sux so hard now
Guess a 280t Python does wonders
And if there were 1000 miners - 24 hours a day, every day, at least on average - mining 80t of VOs each [1], that would be a problem. Pretty sure there aren't, but remind me next week and I'll check the totals again.
Which will take the pressure off Void Opals, of course. If we assume that this army of miners is trying to optimise their profits, then the whole set of core gems (now that the non-VO ones have been buffed significantly for sale prices) needs to be considered together.
Sure, it's possible that in several months time, the total effect will have been to zero every gem - and that would be bad. I'm pretty sure that won't happen, given the numbers.
(Especially if it turns out that "things other than mining" now give ridiculous money, which they do, so the people who like money but hate mining stop doing it)
[1] And optimally spreading out their sales. Looking at how gem demands are evolving in the Colonia region, a lot of miners just sell to Jaques Station because its there and buys everything relevant, even when there are 2x or 3x better prices for some gems at other stations.
The smart money is in Musgravite.
The easy money is in stealing.... ☠The smart money is in Musgravite.
(I'm very lazy)
The smart money is in Musgravite.
For 1-2 weeks, yes it is
Any info about the regen time for demand of precious minerals (VO, LTD, Painite and the rest of them)? Please?
Added to my Manifest Scanner tick-list!The easy, smart money is in stealing Musgravite
So the best way to deal with market volatility is to mine a buncha stuff and then store it on your FC until the price rebounds. The problem then is that people without a FC get screwed.
I want that mission! Best I've been offered this week was a little under 3k...
But when the single system crashes youll be to late as demand at the other systems is very low..The easy, smart money is in stealing Musgravite
Once Jeterait changes state the demand at other stations is very bad... this will then trigger bulk sale tax...
@Ian Doncaster whats the longest Pirate attack lasts...
Nah, you don't. I earned more shipping a mere 180t of gold in another mission.
Sorry - regen times take a lot of data to estimate at the best of times, especially for things with extremely slow rates - and they can vary between stations by a significant amount too (even in % of cap terms, obviously they vary massively in tons/hour terms) ... and I need a station which has enough sold to them that it doesn't just stay at the cap ... but not enough that it ends up pinned to zero either. It took me weeks to nail down the estimate for Tritium, and that regenerates slowly but faster than these and to a generally higher cap.Any info about the regen time for demand of precious minerals (VO, LTD, Painite and the rest of them)? Please?
With what little data I have, it's looking like somewhere between 3 months and a bit over a year, depending on the station and the gem, and that's probably not the full range possible.
3 days fixed duration, I think. But it's a common state, and an "easy" one for big systems to end up in, so there'll be others along.
There are others allready but there demand is junk...only 900 so any more than 45 tons and you could be facing price drops from the bulk sales tax.