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My dream for Season 3 when atmospheric flight comes in!Cloud ambush!
ok! wow!
The Planetary landing and planetside missions discussion Thread
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I saw PL coming the first time I smacked face first into a planetary exclusion zone lol. Had seen a vid on youtube where someone had gone down and flew maybe a few thousand feet off the surface...not great as it was only meant to be good looking from orbit but still kinda cool, and I wanted to try it.
Now I really want to try it
Now I really want to try it
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I'm afraid you're gonna be right, Frontier will probably do another kind of instance like supercruise, just for planet descent. However, it's still better than the anchors from Freelancer, or really also what Star Citizen is doing. There's a difference between having a brief and almost-seamless transition and being locked to a predetermined location unable to freely fly wherever you want.
I am (once again) extremely skeptical if we will really be able to freely fly around on the surface and land on any location wherever we want...
Will we really be able to freely select to start the descent to a surface location from every direction when approaching the moon/planet?
I rather would assume the following procedure:
- Approach moon/planet with SC or normal cruise mode.
- Enter orbit cruise mode (of course with loading screen to hide the instancing).
- Based on a surface scan of the moon/planet (or any other information you got elsewhere) you get a list of predefined landing locations.
- From this list you select the landing location.
- You fly down to the landing location in a predefined corridor which has its boundaries.
- Leaving this corridor results in some kind of emergency break-off for the touch down sequence.
Just my opinion ... hoping of course to be proven wrong.
Will we really be able to freely select to start the descent to a surface location from every direction when approaching the moon/planet?
I rather would assume the following procedure:
- Approach moon/planet with SC or normal cruise mode.
- Enter orbit cruise mode (of course with loading screen to hide the instancing
).- Based on a surface scan of the moon/planet (or any other information you got elsewhere) you get a list of predefined landing locations.
- From this list you select the landing location.
- You fly down to the landing location in a predefined corridor which has its boundaries.
- Leaving this corridor results in some kind of emergency break-off for the touch down sequence.
Just my opinion ... hoping of course to be proven wrong.
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Players will explore new worlds, coasting over mountaintops, diving into canyons, landing on the surface and rolling out onto the surface in your SRV, all without loading times or breaks in gameplay.
Granted there's no cut scenes (hooray!) but DBOBE mentioned an "orbital cruise" system, similar to the "supercruise". I'm thinking they'll drop us out of supercruise at 20km as they do now, then (if you buy the expansion) you'll fire up your "orbital cruise" drive to fly into an orbital height, where you'll drop out into normal space and fly down to the planet on regular drives. My guess is the "drop out" from Orbital Cruise to normal space (or charge up into OC from normal space) will be the "loading screen", the way it is now between supercruise/hyperspace and normal space.
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Seamless is stupid argument, games pull all kind of tricks to give this illusion. My main argument is that it's freeform flight and you can choose to land everywhere.
Considering you can fly between stations over a thousand km's apart seamlessly, I doubt it will be an issue for the devs
Hm ... so you really expect to be able to completely fly around the moon/planet in low altidude above the surface?
Start from a surface location A, heading to the west around the surface and coming back to A from the east?
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I am (once again) extremely skeptical if we will really be able to freely fly around on the surface and land on any location wherever we want...
Will we really be able to freely select to start the descent to a surface location from every direction when approaching the moon/planet?
I rather would assume the following procedure:
- Approach moon/planet with SC or normal cruise mode.
- Enter orbit cruise mode (of course with loading screen to hide the instancing
- Based on a surface scan of the moon/planet (or any other information you got elsewhere) you get a list of predefined landing locations.
- From this list you select the landing location.
- You fly down to the landing location in a predefined corridor which has its boundaries.
- Leaving this corridor results in some kind of emergency break-off for the touch down sequence.
Just my opinion ... hoping of course to be proven wrong.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm expecting. The technical issues will probably prevent them implementing true seamless transitions from supercruise to planetary flight, but as long as the mechanic is no more offensive than the current drop from supercruise to a station vicinity then it will be OK. It's telling that when David was asked this question in the Twitch stream he didn't just come straight out and say "absolutely - it will be a seamless transition". If they could do that they would be trumpeting it like mad. The way his answers were very carefully worded makes me think it will not really be seamless. Plus there's the fact that not everyone will buy Horizons, so to a certain extent there will have to be a "wall" between supercruise and planetary cruise.
As for actually landing, there are a lot of ways what David and Sandro have said so far can be interpreted. We might be able to actually skim over planets in a free-form manner and select one of many hundreds of PG landing areas, or it could be a lot more restricted. On inhabited planets there would be flight control so you would not be able to just choose to land anywhere - that seems reasonable.
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If orbital insertion and landing was all pilot controlled I wonder how well many of us would do. What would be cool was if it looked similar to the way the Nostromo from Alien had those orbital insertion windows and you then have an adrenaline rush landing. Planets could be graded easy, medium, hard and insane. Another rank could even be added for piloting skill.
Yes, just like many other simulators out there..
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Already could do this way back in the Alpha. Have done this personally, (took hours, I was on medical leave and bored, so why not!) although lower down it was a bit low res and no collision detection, it was easy to see that they weren't far off, needed 2 extra layers of detail to fix the up close stuff, and that was over a year ago, and easy to see how it could be in the final. My only concern was the time it was taking to get down at less than supercruise speed, but they've solved that with "orbital speed".
The way down was easy, supercruise as close as possible, then just boost for about 2-3 hours.
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Confirmed by DBOBE himself in the recent Twitch Q&A with Sandro where he mentioned "orbital cruise".
I just realised .... you can use the buggy to jump anacondas. Wait .... let me reiterate that.
You can take the buggy and jump freaking anacondas.
I need an American flag paintjob for my buggy. I'm dutch, I shake my head in weary resignation at patriotism, but I need, not want, need, an American flag paintjob for my buggy.
Chaff will do nicely as fireworks.
You can take the buggy and jump freaking anacondas.
I need an American flag paintjob for my buggy. I'm dutch, I shake my head in weary resignation at patriotism, but I need, not want, need, an American flag paintjob for my buggy.
Chaff will do nicely as fireworks.
Haha! Love this idèa! Ziggy "Evel Knievel" Stardust!
You shall of course be allowed to borrow my anaconda
View attachment 53832Haha! Love this idèa! Ziggy "Evel Knievel" Stardust!
You shall of course be allowed to borrow my anaconda
Lets hope I can drive better than I fly.
Holy crap ... Hadn't even thought about stuff like that! OMG
Do buggy's have fuel?
Do buggy's have fuel?
I posed that very question for yesterday's Q&A. Sadly not answered.
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