Since I don't partake in powerplay, I had "no chance" of knowing that... Thank you!
The "problem" with the current Thargoid attack gameplay
- Thread starter NeilF
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And make them move dynamically so people could play the role of moving these hulks out the way so rescue ships could land quicker. There's a lack of thought and knowledge on game design. This thread shows us what could have quite easily been done from multiple voice actors to dyanmic debris and damage modelling to time limits and numbers with some Galaxy Wide emails being sent out with things like "there's only an hour left before the reactor blows and we STILL have 50,000 people to get off the station (FDev doing it would make it 50,391 lol
) We BEG all ships in the vicinity to help us now!"Something like that - omg how many people are going to turn that down? I'd leap at the chance for it. Talk about a CG that ticks all the right boxes and when the Thargoids hit another station, even though we can expect the same, it'll be different and still have meaning.
Imagine if they hit 2 or 3 at the same time and having some kind of managment tool to coordinate with other players. Where you could see where you're needed and then having hospital ships parked outside but then a Thargoid attack hits them "HELP WE'RE UNDER ATTACK!!!" Everyone would passout due to something exciting actually happening in the game to a dark room. The lights out, just the monitor on and your dashboard flashing red, the sounds muffled....30 seconds of oxygen left????
LOL
No, I've been in the game for several hours yesterday to complete both CGs, but nothing in GalNet. Only the same you'll find in the GalNet App or in the internet
And make them move dynamically so people could play the role of moving these hulks out the way so rescue ships could land quicker. There's a lack of thought and knowledge on game design. This thread shows us what could have quite easily been done from multiple voice actors to dyanmic debris and damage modelling to time limits and numbers with some Galaxy Wide emails being sent out with things like "there's only an hour left before the reactor blows and we STILL have 50,000 people to get off the station (FDev doing it would make it 50,391 lol
Something like that - omg how many people are going to turn that down? I'd leap at the chance for it. Talk about a CG that ticks all the right boxes and when the Thargoids hit another station, even though we can expect the same, it'll be different and still have meaning.
Imagine if they hit 2 or 3 at the same time and having some kind of managment tool to coordinate with other players. Where you could see where you're needed and then having hospital ships parked outside but then a Thargoid attack hits them "HELP WE'RE UNDER ATTACK!!!" Everyone would passout due to something exciting actually happening in the game to a dark room. The lights out, just the monitor on and your dashboard flashing red, the sounds muffled....30 seconds of oxygen left????
LOL
I apparently can't rep you again, and no-one is more surprised by that than I am
NeilF;6287036ps: said:And a minor comment along these lines - Maybe if a station is damaged by a Thargoid attack, any CMDRs who left their ships onboard should face a rebuy screen next logon
OP I like your ideas, they are spot on, but perhaps, rather than a rebuy (Pilot Federation replaced your ship due to non human aggression beyond a pilots control), a player loses all their missions, bounties and more importantly any stored modules etc, that were in that station. Does that seem a bit wishy washy?
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Standing instructions for Viper pilot enforcement at stations:
You must defend the station at all costs:
Misfire by a pilot meets instant death.
Noob commander caught in the grille - use as target practice
Discover a minor bounty? Treat as serious criminal until dead
Illegal passenger - execute all on board by destroying the ship
In the event of an attack by aliens - High Wake out !
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And to piggy back off of this, Galnet needs a more orderly and structured UI. Right now all the news is just splashed onto the first page in one big info dump. If newspapers and official news websites did this then nobody would bother reading them either because it's too cluttered. Galnet needs some category tabs in order to place news items that are related to each other together such as:
- Powerplay
- Galactic Politics (good place to put the archived Salome story)
- Local System News
- Thargoids (stations attacked, Thargoid sightings, etc)
- Economy Report
- Community Goals
- Palin and Alien Research
- Anti-Xeno Defence News (All known info on the anti-Thargoid initiatives, weapons and modules)
As well as a "Breaking News" section where the most recent happenings in the game's story are detailed. This should be the place to go for players who just want a quick glimpse of what's going on right now and what stuff is immediately available to get involved with.
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This is not game play by any stretch of the imagination just lazy work by Frontier...
I have little to no interest in the Thargoids story any more after waiting for so long only to be confronted by content that is clearly designed to be a group activity. While I have no issues with playing in open I would like some content that I don't have to be in a wing or soon a squadron just to take part.
Right now exploration is far more interesting even with all the shades of beige!
This is not game play by any stretch of the imagination just lazy work by Frontier...
I have little to no interest in the Thargoids story any more after waiting for so long only to be confronted by content that is clearly designed to be a group activity. While I have no issues with playing in open I would like some content that I don't have to be in a wing or soon a squadron just to take part.
Right now exploration is far more interesting even with all the shades of beige!
Well why don't you try thinking about it and see what you come up with.
OP you hit the nail on the head it's the one thing that annoys load's of cmdrs feel that we can't do a thing about it if in a split second and a server tick over the station is attacked, destroyed and the attackers vanish in that tick.
If we could all fight them it would play out a lot different but we can't if one tick later it's all over.
If we could all fight them it would play out a lot different but we can't if one tick later it's all over.
There are several issues for me (player since premium beta). Most is about presentation.
1) The relevant news are buried between generic weekly PP/CG updates. There is no "breaking news".
2) There is no sorting and no search function, and no archive. If i want to look up the systems & coordinates for alien bases i need the article from when they were found. There is no way i can do that in game. I am not playing every day, every week, every month.
3) The writing is often lackluster, also there are no cool details, there are no pictures, just a block of generic text.
4) There is no copy and paste, no links. Let's say something is found in Col 107 Sector AA-P d6-58 on planet A 2 a, at some coordinates. How am i supposed to get that string into my galmap? Memorize it? Copy it on paper?
LOL I know.
And you're exactly correct and it's not hard to think it up either. You could run an algorithym to dynamically shape it or simply model 100 different goos and place a few of them - you could even rotate them for more variation. You could also panel model the station and have a bunch of panels rendered from a pool to randomise the damage or work in damage modelling with cascading atrophy.
They managed to make entire planets PG - a space station would be a lot easier.
The bottom line is the 'narrative' doesn't run in real time. So if the community fill the station with its needs, they cash in but FD could implode the station just the same. It is their narrative.
It would be great to see that no one took part in the CG, left the 'narrative' completely alone and see what their next move was.
I long for the day when someone jumps into a system and see's Thargoid throngs attacking a station, and poops themselves. Not just a Thursday 'oh and by the way, this station is now damaged'.
Or maybe is milling around in the void somewhere and comes across and fleet of Goids on the way to the bubble. Or even a recon Goid ship that jumps out, and you wake scan and follow.
Meanwhile in reality .......
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It would be great to see that no one took part in the CG, left the 'narrative' completely alone and see what their next move was.
I long for the day when someone jumps into a system and see's Thargoid throngs attacking a station, and poops themselves. Not just a Thursday 'oh and by the way, this station is now damaged'.
Or maybe is milling around in the void somewhere and comes across and fleet of Goids on the way to the bubble. Or even a recon Goid ship that jumps out, and you wake scan and follow.
Meanwhile in reality .......
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I apparently can't rep you again, and no-one is more surprised by that than I am
LOL it seems I can't rep you back again either!
However, there have been some cases where we were in agreement though not many
All the passengers are murdered????
just *facepalms*
FDev have made CG's "win" when they didn't get enough players so it seems the story is on rails and you get to watch. You can do stuff too but it's won't affect anything or the outcome.
I made that suggestion in another thread, and not because i wanted to come across as counterproductive or troll-ish, but as an honest alternative.
I wonder how much influence on events players would have by not taking part.
What if we actually did "let them burn", as suggested in another thread ?
Could this be a much bigger player impact on FD's story plans than jumping through their hoops ?
Or would they just drop the whole thing and shrug ?
It would be rather interesting to see what would happen if we threw FD that curve ball.
Not going to happen, i know. But i find that question far more exciting than where the Thargoids strike next or how we can stop them....because that's already decided anyway.
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Compare the accessibility of the story, lore, background, and fluff in Mass Effect or Civilization: Beyond Earth, to that of Elite Dangerous. Or heck, Doom. Just a few examples out of many, there.
Gal-net by itself is simply not enough.
You know, categorization might work a great deal even if nothing else is done.
I agree (and have heard of) show don't tell. That is a staple of visual entertainment story telling. It is a lot harder to do, too. The categories, however, would go a long way toward me reading more because I largely skip GalNet because it is mostly auto generated statistical text. Like the newspaper is mostly the financial section.
I agree (and have heard of) show don't tell. That is a staple of visual entertainment story telling. It is a lot harder to do, too. The categories, however, would go a long way toward me reading more because I largely skip GalNet because it is mostly auto generated statistical text. Like the newspaper is mostly the financial section.
The problem is not only that all of galnet is presently text but that its hidden away in menus. Plus reading galnet is generally a tedious affair with most of the articles utter trash, such as stats etc..
It would be far better if we didn't need to leave the game so to speak to learn what is going on, and yes as it stands I consider the way galnet works out of game because its a seperate screen and seems unconnected to the real game.. It could be linked to the comms console somehow, displayed whilst we are in our cockpit, and the voice played too. Better yet, instead of text, make some sort of videos and display it in cockpit.. It might be the 3300s but I doubt TV is not still around.
Could be integrated with the HUD, video displayed with some sort of transparancy, I'd also prefer for the galaxy map to work like this too.
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