The SCB (Shield Cell Bank) Thread
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Seriously? Best point you could produce? Seriously?
Lost track of them! LOL!
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My post per day count skyrocketed from 8.6 to 9.6 since Friday... geebus what have I been doing =-=...
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Yes, the efficiency is down, but you get a faster charger. Why not the same idea to shields ? Why dont use the power/module management to give more power to shields heal faster ?
I disagree with "pay to win". The anaconda and big ships needs a good pilot. No skill=booom. And the anaconda have a target painted with magnetic ink in your power plant, so without a good pilot, any other ship can destroy it.
Again, all the problems with the SCB is because of the ridiculous long time to regenerate the shield.
My idea:
Bigger power plant + bigger power distributor + higher class of shield module = faster shield recharge.
SCB = Shield Cell Battery = A way to give a booster to shield to regenerate faster (from disabled) and not to recharge a shield, like is today. After use, the battery will be recharged at some low rate. Only one by ship.
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No. You're right. That was kinda lame. I'll do better.
Go fly a vulture. Simples!
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Still doesn't address the fact that you have a bigger ship to cover. So where is the balance. If that is the case, you then have to revisit every ship underneath the 'Conda and tweak their shield times. Because you can't have a 'Conda shield regen quicker than a vulture's... The Vulture has far less shield to regenerate and does not need so much energy to do it, and therefore if the Conda can recharge quicker, so can the other ships and where do you stop?
You are right, that it is about skill. Well now you have to have more skill. And what is so bad about that?
Given your suggestions I'm actually left wondering who would ever want to fly anything bigger (except perhaps for trading or exploration)... That doesn't sound too interesting.
Fighting for a cause! LOL!
Lots of people do trading and exploration, and find it interesting.
If you want to be king of the hill in combat (which sounds like it *might* be the thing you are talking about as *interesting*) then in fact you will want to use a dedicated combat ship for that. The Anaconda is not a dedicated fighting ship and therefore *should* require a lot more skill to take in to combat, not just magic potions.
Fun fact: I fly a Vulture... still I don't like the changes because they make module switching nonsense.
Without module switching flying a power hungry ship like the Vulture is only half the fun.
[video=youtube;Th4gZsnuECA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th4gZsnuECA[/video]
We will stop when the shield recharge is fair enough to each ship. Maybe every ship needs to be manually tweaked. But at least, FD will fix the root of the issue. My opinion of course.
And I fully agree, the anaconda, corvette, cutter cant be more faster than a vulture. But it can be a lot more faster than it is now. But remember, that big ships produce more power. A more useful power management needs more skill ... (if I remember correctly, Bridge Commander had a nice power management)
Nothing bad about more skill. I just dont want to wait an absurd time ( I dont have much time to play) only to my shield starts to recharge. And I dont think the SCB is the real problem or the solution.
This whole thread is kind of ABOUT combat, so... yeah.
But the same will apply to ANY larger ship, not just the Anaconda. If I understand it, there are new dedicated large combat ships coming out, and it seems those will be affected as well.
I still think that larger shield generators should recharge shields a bit faster, the highest the grade, the faster the recharge. Even if they are larger and should logically take longer to recharge, they should recharge a little faster.
where can we read Michaels responce I found Sandro's here https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=200980&p=3107557&viewfull=1#post3107557
See above link!
I like this bit...
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Disagree. I'm a fan of mechanisms which stop the "potioning" of SCB stacking, but a flat rate 1MJ/s recharge across all ships is ludicrous.
Attempting to apply some "realistic" logic to it - shield recharge rates should be a factor of power plant capacity -> power distributor capacity -> pips in SYS -> shield generator input capacity. Whether you're flying an Eagle or an Annie shouldn't matter - it should be about how quickly you can get those MJ into the capacitors of the shield generator (assuming that the shields are essentially a battery of some sort, holding power which is discharged on hits).
When I use a SCB I have two options:
One I stop firing my weapons to prevent overheating beyond repair.
Or option two fire a SCB and a heat sink at the same time. Other than that is business as usual, you carry as many as you want, turn off and on as you like but now you wait for the bar to fill for the module come online.
You have missed out <size of the shield - Mass to be protected> That does not figure in your calculation. They don't put those stats in the outfitting just for fun.
An Eagle's shield has to cover the mass of the Eagle vs the Anaconda... you have a awful lot more mass to protect.
A recent development from Huawei allows for speed recharging of batteries. They can, in five minutes, recharge their battery to 68%. However, it's only a 600 whatsits battery, when most mobiles have a 3000 whatsits battery.
However big the pipe to the battery is, it still has to fill a bigger hole, a bigger bucket. The biggest ships in the game should have the longest charge time otherwise there's some cheating going on. And no-one likes cheating...
And if this is a thread all about combat, why even bother mentioning your Anaconda. It's a multirole, not a combat ship!!!
However big the pipe to the battery is, it still has to fill a bigger hole, a bigger bucket. The biggest ships in the game should have the longest charge time otherwise there's some cheating going on. And no-one likes cheating...
And if this is a thread all about combat, why even bother mentioning your Anaconda. It's a multirole, not a combat ship!!!
Right. But again, the problem is the absurd time to recharge a disabled shield versus the use of SCB spam to avoid the shield to be disabled. Like I said, the SCB is a band aid, when the fix to SCB spam is just to fix the shields recharge time.
No one want the anaconda or any other ship to get the shields up in 5 seconds. But I dont think it is fair to wait 10, 15 minutes (is that right ? I dont remember) to shields get up again. At least 5 minutes at anaconda, maybe 6 in cutter... I dont know, I dont remember how much time takes to get the shields up.
At least for me, I dont care if its a anaconda or a vulture or some multirole ship.
In my humble opinion, the shield recharge time is the problem of SCB spam.