Modes The Solo vs Open vs Groups Thread - Mk III

Do you want a Open PvE

  • Yes, I want a Open PvE

    Votes: 54 51.4%
  • No, I don't want a Open PvE

    Votes: 49 46.7%
  • I want only Open PvE and PvP only in groups

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • Total voters
    105
  • Poll closed .
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Um that's not really true. Sure pvp requires more Balance passes, but pve play requires more content. Player driven content doesn't cost anything to make and it makes up most of pvp games.

It does to implement though.


Yes - I don't think you're onto a winner there Jordan!

The single most expensive thing in ED by several astronomical units surely has to be the networking and other aspects related to real time multiplaying - which in over one and half years since alpha is still not working satisfactorily for many.

Then followed by endless PVP nerf and buff cycles and goodness know what else.
 
Um that's not really true. Sure pvp requires more Balance passes, but pve play requires more content. Player driven content doesn't cost anything to make and it makes up most of pvp games.

The Elite franchise being about finding your own path and all that, its PvE content has always been mostly player driven since the first game. The games in the franchise don't hold the player's hand through a series of scripted one-shot content; rather, they provide a procedurally generated backdrop for the player's story to unfold.

Also, PvP content can't substitute for PvE content. They have different target audiences.
 
And they can be in the same galaxy, benefiting from all its pros and cons but without having to ability to influence it in certain circumstances. As I have stated above, my suggestion includes that every player benefits from the background sim but has not always the ability to influence it depending in which mode he/she plays.

You want to shadowban non Open players. I paid the game just like you, why should I be the one left behind ?
If it ain't broken, don't touch it :D
 
All these arguments for separating modes steadfastly ignore the fact that the game is instanced so there will always be players you won't see regardless of what mode you play in and that if another player takes against you the ignore function makes it highly unlikely that you will see them again anyway. Too much complaining and not enough thinking about the underlying game mechanics that FD clearly have no intention of changing or should change.

(and also, what do the players want, resources applied to fixes and new content or going over old ground ? I know what I want)
 
PC/MAC Solo - PC/MAC Groups
PC/MAC Solo - PC/MAC Open

PC/MAC Solo – CQC ?
PC/MAC Solo - X Box Solo
PC/MAC Solo - X Box Groups
PC/MAC Solo - X Box Open

PC/MAC Solo - X Box CQC ?
PC/MAC Solo - PS4 Solo ?
PC/MAC Solo - PS4 Groups ?
PC/MAC Solo - PS4 Open ?
PC/MAC Solo - PS4 CQC ?
PC/MAC Groups - PC/MAC Open
PC/MAC Groups - PC/MAC CQC ?
PC/MAC Groups - X Box Solo
PC/MAC Groups - X Box Groups
PC/MAC Groups - X Box Open

PC/MAC Groups - X Box CQC ?
PC/MAC Groups - PS4 Solo ?
PC/MAC Groups - PS4 Groups ?
PC/MAC Groups - PS4 Open ?
PC/MAC Groups - PS4 CQC ?
PC/MAC Open - CQC ?
PC/MAC Open - Instance greater than (X-1) Number of players
PC/MAC Open - Any player without a valid matchmaking connection

PC/MAC Open - X Box Solo
PC/MAC Open - X Box Groups
PC/MAC Open - X Box Open

PC/MAC Open - X Box CQC ?
PC/MAC Open - PS4 Solo ?
PC/MAC Open - PS4 Groups ?
PC/MAC Open - PS4 Open ?
PC/MAC Open - PS4 CQC ?
X Box Solo - PS4 Solo ?
X Box Solo - PS4 Groups ?
X Box Solo - PS4 Open ?
X Box Solo - PS4 CQC ?
X Box Solo - X Box Groups
X Box Solo - X Box Open

X Box Solo - X Box CQC ?
X Box Groups - X Box Open
X Box Groups - PS4 Solo ?
X Box Groups - PS4 Groups ?
X Box Groups - PS4 Open ?
X Box Groups - PS4 CQC ?
X Box Open - Instance greater than (X-1) Number of players
X Box Open - Any player without a valid matchmaking connection

X Box Open - PS4 Solo ?
X Box Open - PS4 Groups ?
X Box Open - PS4 Open ?
X Box Open - PS4 CQC ?
PS4 Solo ? - PS4 Groups ?
PS4 Solo ? - PS4 Open ?
PS4 Solo ? - PS4 CQC ?
PS4 Groups ? - PS4 Open ?
PS4 Groups ? - PS4 CQC ?
PS4 Open ? – PS4 CQC ?
PS4 Open ? - Instance greater than (X-1) Number of players
PS4 Open ? - Any player without a valid matchmaking connection

Show me again which nasty mode touched your Powerplay?

? = not confirmed/not known - just a complete SWAG (Scientific Wild Guess)
 
PC/MAC Solo - PC/MAC Groups
PC/MAC Solo - PC/MAC Open

PC/MAC Solo – CQC ?
PC/MAC Solo - X Box Solo
PC/MAC Solo - X Box Groups
PC/MAC Solo - X Box Open

PC/MAC Solo - X Box CQC ?
PC/MAC Solo - PS4 Solo ?
PC/MAC Solo - PS4 Groups ?
PC/MAC Solo - PS4 Open ?
PC/MAC Solo - PS4 CQC ?
PC/MAC Groups - PC/MAC Open
PC/MAC Groups - PC/MAC CQC ?
PC/MAC Groups - X Box Solo
PC/MAC Groups - X Box Groups
PC/MAC Groups - X Box Open

PC/MAC Groups - X Box CQC ?
PC/MAC Groups - PS4 Solo ?
PC/MAC Groups - PS4 Groups ?
PC/MAC Groups - PS4 Open ?
PC/MAC Groups - PS4 CQC ?
PC/MAC Open - CQC ?
PC/MAC Open - Instance greater than (X-1) Number of players
PC/MAC Open - Any player without a valid matchmaking connection

PC/MAC Open - X Box Solo
PC/MAC Open - X Box Groups
PC/MAC Open - X Box Open

PC/MAC Open - X Box CQC ?
PC/MAC Open - PS4 Solo ?
PC/MAC Open - PS4 Groups ?
PC/MAC Open - PS4 Open ?
PC/MAC Open - PS4 CQC ?
X Box Solo - PS4 Solo ?
X Box Solo - PS4 Groups ?
X Box Solo - PS4 Open ?
X Box Solo - PS4 CQC ?
X Box Solo - X Box Groups
X Box Solo - X Box Open

X Box Solo - X Box CQC ?
X Box Groups - X Box Open
X Box Groups - PS4 Solo ?
X Box Groups - PS4 Groups ?
X Box Groups - PS4 Open ?
X Box Groups - PS4 CQC ?
X Box Open - Instance greater than (X-1) Number of players
X Box Open - Any player without a valid matchmaking connection

X Box Open - PS4 Solo ?
X Box Open - PS4 Groups ?
X Box Open - PS4 Open ?
X Box Open - PS4 CQC ?
PS4 Solo ? - PS4 Groups ?
PS4 Solo ? - PS4 Open ?
PS4 Solo ? - PS4 CQC ?
PS4 Groups ? - PS4 Open ?
PS4 Groups ? - PS4 CQC ?
PS4 Open ? – PS4 CQC ?
PS4 Open ? - Instance greater than (X-1) Number of players
PS4 Open ? - Any player without a valid matchmaking connection

Show me again which nasty mode touched your Powerplay?

? = not confirmed/not known - just a complete SWAG (Scientific Wild Guess)


As the inspiration for my Wall of Text and a provider of content in it.....

HOLY [SWEAR WORD BATMAN] !

I've seen your small version of this, but wow, just wow, that hurts my head, eyes and very soul trying to read it!
 
All this crap about "balancing" open and "being able to affect it" and "win the war" and "player-driven content" and "emergent gameplay" is all just smoke for the "we want Guilds so we can control our space, even though DB has said emphatically, several times, "There will be no player ownership of space."


I decided I'm going out on Halloween as a "ghost player." Now to start building a cardboard Asp...
 
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Oooh! This Halloween I'll have to dress up as a Guildie! Get a really nice costume, practice my little trick (how to make beer vanish from inside a can) only to find out that I am on border duty in system X for the next 48 hours, can't leave my seat, and if I don't comply I'll be kicked out, DDoS'd for lulz and put on a KOS list for the rest of my life :D
 
All this crap about "balancing" open and "being able to affect it" and "win the war" and "player-driven content" and "emergent gameplay" is all just smoke for the "we want Guilds so we can control our space, even though DB has said emphatically, several times, "There will be no player ownership of space."


I decided I'm going out on Halloween as a "ghost player." Now to start building a cardboard Asp...


Gonna need pics of this when you are done^,^
 
Gonna need pics of this when you are done^,^

Oooh! This Halloween I'll have to dress up as a Guildie! Get a really nice costume, practice my little trick (how to make beer vanish from inside a can) only to find out that I am on border duty in system X for the next 48 hours, can't leave my seat, and if I don't comply I'll be kicked out, DDoS'd for lulz and put on a KOS list for the rest of my life :D

I decided I'm going out on Halloween as a "ghost player." Now to start building a cardboard Asp...


The forum demands pictures of costumes. You've committed yourselves now!
 
However, all palyers should get the benefits from the background sim. For example if a solo player decides to help in a community goal, he may not influence the actual progression but still get the credits and will be ranked in the, let's say top 40%. Meanwhile open players will help to get the community goal done and assuming it is successful, every player who participated will get the full reward regardless of which mode he or she was playing in. So the solo player gets the top 40% credit reward due to the open players getting the progression bar up.

Doesn't sound that good?

No, actually that sounds like a good reason to immediately uninstall.
 
The Magic Bag can function as whatever the situation requires. It can launch chaff, heat sinks, slurp fuel, devour the souls of Open Only Advocates and consume the limitless tears of griefed pew-pew-crews.

A wonderful thing the Magic Bag!

Stop mocking us with your Magic Bag if you're unwilling to share the joys with your friends! Griefer! *runs off, wailing*
 
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