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The problem is this:

The people who bought the game because of the possibility of mode switching researched what they were buying. And got what they expected.

The people who are surprised and against mode switching did not research the game properly. Their fault. And since you feel that once the money is in FD's pockets we can stop worrying about players leaving, [...]

Probably the best argument out here.
 
Nah. This generation was born with MP. We love Mp cuz the first game we loaded was actually MP. You were probably born with SP.

My generation was born with no computer games at all, and no personal computers to not play them on. What's your point?
 
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Also the general request for multiplayer in Skyrim and Dont Starve and games that dont have it nowadays...??

The requests for multiplayer in Skyrim resulted in Elder Scrolls Online, a game which failed catastrophically compared to all the other Elder Scrolls games. Multiplayer was also shoe-horned into Mass Effect 3, and look at how that turned out.

Multiplayer isn't as big a selling point as you seem to think.
 
I actually get your point. You want a game where you can do what you want when you want without anyone telling you anything. I just am more used to other stuff. Perhaps it's just my nature of thinking...I guess i should just sit in my chair playing ED from time to time. I love everything this game has to offer(even mining), but it just makes me want to stop playing cuz its a wasteland. All i meet is NPC who say "Drop your cargo and then shoot"(and then people complain about other people doing the same ??? i dont rly get it :D)

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The requests for multiplayer in Skyrim resulted in Elder Scrolls Online, a game which failed catastrophically compared to all the other Elder Scrolls games. Multiplayer was also shoe-horned into Mass Effect 3, and look at how that turned out.

Multiplayer isn't as big a selling point as you seem to think.
One game : League of Freking Legends. Give me something that beats it. (CSGO DOTA2 and COD fall in the same category. Most money to be made from multiplayer games :p)
 
Nah. This generation was born with MP. We love Mp cuz the first game we loaded was actually MP. You were probably born with SP.

Yup we were born with SP - yet we made some SP games MP, because we had the skills to do so. Ever wired up a null modem cable and set RS232 parity and length?
 
When I see arguments against Solo mode contributing to CGs, because the player cannot see them (ghost mode etc.) I always wonder how the complainers feel about all the other Open players who are in other instances, or play at other times. They are 'ghosting' past you just the same. Solo mode is just another instance, it just happens to be an instance of one.
 
idk maybe the sales for cod and all the multiplayer games say something ? Also the general request for multiplayer in Skyrim and Dont Starve and games that dont have it nowadays...??

Different games from different genres, nothing to do with ED.

Not everything is Call of Duty.

As SC has an arena mode, perhaps that will be more to your taste.
 
Most money to be made from multiplayer games
How much money something makes says nothing about how good it is. And while Skyrim didn't make as much money as LoL, it did really, really, really good. Go and ask Bethesda, they are more then happy with sales.

And mind you, ED is a very niche Game, it will never make the big money of Games GTAV and the likes. And additional: You make even more Money with Smarthphone Games like Angry Birds and the likes, does this mean ED should now go this way? As a F2P Mobile cookie clicker Game ED could make a ton more money then it does now.
 
How much money something makes says nothing about how good it is. And while Skyrim didn't make as much money as LoL, it did really, really, really good. Go and ask Bethesda, they are more then happy with sales.

And mind you, ED is a very niche Game, it will never make the big money of Games GTAV and the likes. And additional: You make even more Money with Smarthphone Games like Angry Birds and the likes, does this mean ED should now go this way? As a F2P Mobile cookie clicker Game ED could make a ton more money then it does now.
This was just an argument i brought cuz someone said making it MP will kill the game and i Said it will bring more players since people seem to be hungry for PVP and MP

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I am beaten by cunning use of acronyms.

I had to google league of frikking legends by the way.
Have my rep for this xD.
 
One game : League of Freking Legends. Give me something that beats it. (CSGO DOTA2 and COD fall in the same category. Most money to be made from multiplayer games :p)

One game? Let me give you a couple: Tetris, Mario, Grand Theft Auto, Pokemon, Sonic etc. I'm not seeing League of Legends on this list.

That aside...

You should read this sometime. I hate to reinforce a stereotype here but many (not all but many) gamers are the quiet, thoughtful, intelligent, and socially-awkward and shy type of person. Playing a game, suddenly finding yourself on mic, and feeling pressured to say something witty/interesting/fun to a stranger can be daunting to many many people. If you force multiplayer you're going to lose quite a lot of your customers.

Is that a new point by the way Robert? I'm genuinely curious, has anyone ever pointed this out before?
 
One game? Let me give you a couple: Tetris, Mario, Grand Theft Auto, Pokemon, Sonic etc. I'm not seeing League of Legends on this list.

That aside...

You should read this sometime. I hate to reinforce a stereotype here but many (not all but many) gamers are the quiet, thoughtful, intelligent, and socially-awkward and shy type of person. Playing a game, suddenly finding yourself on mic, and feeling pressured to say something witty/interesting/fun to a stranger can be daunting to many many people. If you force multiplayer you're going to lose quite a lot of your customers.

Is that a new point by the way Robert? I'm genuinely curious, has anyone ever pointed this out before?
Read my ^ comment. I said these games are mentioned are F2P and can't be on a list for best selling games. They sall ingame items not the game itself.

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One game? Let me give you a couple: Tetris, Mario, Grand Theft Auto, Pokemon, Sonic etc. I'm not seeing League of Legends on this list.

That aside...

You should read this sometime. I hate to reinforce a stereotype here but many (not all but many) gamers are the quiet, thoughtful, intelligent, and socially-awkward and shy type of person. Playing a game, suddenly finding yourself on mic, and feeling pressured to say something witty/interesting/fun to a stranger can be daunting to many many people. If you force multiplayer you're going to lose quite a lot of your customers.

Is that a new point by the way Robert? I'm genuinely curious, has anyone ever pointed this out before?
Well elite has what 1 million at max players ? Guess how many CSGO has, a game where if you dont have a mic you get kicked from a competitive game. Almost 9 million and rising ? LOL and DOTA are basically the same, but you talk with characters more than mic(DOTA has mic but people only use it for Cyka Blyot)
 
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This was just an argument i brought cuz someone said making it MP will kill the game and i Said it will bring more players since people seem to be hungry for PVP and MP
It has MP, or not? So you mean making it MP only and... look, dunno what would happen if they would do it I'm not Patcher and I'm not a business expert, but selling something to people (in this Case ED with Solo and Groups and all the fun stuff you don't like) and taking that what you sold away from the People you sold it to is most likely very bad for business.

I know I would never again trust FD anymore and probably never buy anything from them ever again. I tend to do that when people take my money and then screw me.
 
Read my ^ comment. I said these games are mentioned are F2P and can't be on a list for best selling games. They sall ingame items not the game itself.

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Well elite has what 1 million at max players ? Guess how many CSGO has, a game where if you dont have a mic you get kicked from a competitive game. Almost 9 million and rising ? LOL and DOTA are basically the same, but you talk with characters more than mic(DOTA has mic but people only use it for Cyka Blyot)

Again with the pointless comparison.

CSGO doesn't attract people who want spaceships :rolleyes:
Oh and ED does sell in game stuff - so it is closer to a normal F2P than any of your mindless pew pew shooters.

At this point, you're just trolling for the sake of trolling.
 
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Hi Micheal

I know you said that solo/group and open will always use the same universe, can you also say that there will be no specific perks in playing in one mode over another? i.e bigger profit from trading in open or bigger bounties?
None are planned at the moment.

He didn't say they wouldn't or a definitive no, so I'm just going to dismiss your point.

How old am I, 30.
Why is what I say meaningful at all.
I dunno probably just Ultima Online or researching PvP versus PVE WOW server world goal completion dates.
Probably, the most obvious key, PvP servers are harder.

I'm also a utilitarian, so there really isn't a good or bad side to me.
I play every type of game play, research the hell out of them and aggregate my gameplay data in a log to track revenue vs time.

Basically, I'm OCD as hell about process efficiency. I'm also OCD about words and meanings. This game is supposed to gear towards interaction of players. That does not jive well with having solo = open.
Every modern game does it eventually to carrot the players together.

I have grand kids older than you, which in my world officially makes you a punk, I bet you don't even know how to tie your shoes right. LOL, just a little humor here mate no disrespect intended, "Seriously".

If the game were indeed focused on Player Interactions, I assure you it wouldn't have an official, FD approved Solo Mode!

I'm of an opinion that player interactions are made available to people that like that sort of thing in Open, and open only. It's no mistake, or a misunderstanding that FD put these modes here. Think Man.
 
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And some, probably most, will offer bonuses to both. Look at Patreus, his Power has two combat "perks" and one financial "perk".

http://hosting.zaonce.net/elite/new...0d877f20/942d046d0793c24b7de5ce7e294156e4.jpg

A lot of players will also choose a Power for role-playing or other reasons not just as a way to get perks in a particular field.

Did you read the description? The perk is about guns, one of the least traded commodities. I doubt that will help any traders.

As for role playing, not many peaceful traders will support a combat haply power, and not many combat players will support a peaceful trade power.
 
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