The Star Citizen Thread V10
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Well, in their defense:
- It's not something forced upon anyone
- There are disclaimers everywhere before doing a purchase
- A base package is 45 USD and is all that is required*
Apart from that, yes, ship prices are ludicrous but that is also a good way to stop people from purchasing everything not nailed down apparently since everything is being purchased by people regardless so apparently some prices on ships are apparently not high enough.
*Allthough a slightly higher priced ship is also a bit of a gateway drug since you can do so much more with it (Avenger Titan)
So, got into a discussion on reddit about what actually would be considered a release.
One of the faithful popped in and dropped this wonderful post.
Yup, you heard it here first! Star Citizen was released in 2015!
One of the faithful popped in and dropped this wonderful post.
Yup, you heard it here first! Star Citizen was released in 2015!
I think that any advances made in SQ42s development would make a noticable impact on SC and the running alpha. According to the devs themselves both games development influences each other. The fact that you have Star Citizen in plain sight and absolutely NOTHING about SQ42 makes me wonder how that works. SQ42 will depend heavily on NPC AI to make it an experience as well as the flight model because thats what you ll do most in SQ42. I assume that if SQ42 would have nailed that down they could simply implement the NPC routines and AI behavior into the SC alpha. If SCs AI quality is any indicator of SQ42s progress in that regard I fear 2020 is all but impossible to hold. Also the meddling with the flight model and wild "attempts" to improve it also doesnt let SQ42 shine a lot.
Other things that I can think of is player avatar interaction with objects and landscape. Again SCs horrendous bug-filled quality in this aspect doesnt give me any high hopes for SQ42.
There has been some really wild speculations about where SQ42 is in terms of development and I really wonder with all the critical and sometimes sensitive info leaking from CI-G that we still know next to nothing about SQ42. Some white knights theorize that everything is ready to go held secretive on CI-Gs own servers in "special" dev-builds but honestly....my own take on the matter (there is no SQ42 at the moment, apart from very basic frist steps there is nothing that could be booted up and be done) seems far more reasonable.
Certain people like to underline that CI-G is basically producing TWO games but fail to understand that these 2 games are basically the same. One focuses on multiplayer, the other on single-player content. The assets, the AI routines, animations, everything is identical except from that focus. So its not like CI-G is doing something incredible. IMO just milking the playerbase even more for what they are worth (enough games offer single AND multiplayer modes in one package). I also tend to believe that SQ42 will NOT be a full fledged game but at best a short tutorial mode for Star Citizen. The amount of content CI-G manages to create for SC just makes me worry how far along or content-dense SQ42 really is. And again....if most people would work on SQ42 and are indeed pretty far along info would slip out and more changes would be felt in SC because of it.
Another thing I thought about......isnt Star Citizen designed as "game as a service"? So if SC releases and flops hard chances are the servers will go down forcing everybody to play in offline mode which betrays the very core idea of Star Citizen. Right now the Amazon Server Park comes up heavily, that cannot be cheap and as far as I understand Star Citizen buckles under the heavy workload in up- and down-stream traffic. Anybody has any idea what kind of cost we are talking here?
Other things that I can think of is player avatar interaction with objects and landscape. Again SCs horrendous bug-filled quality in this aspect doesnt give me any high hopes for SQ42.
There has been some really wild speculations about where SQ42 is in terms of development and I really wonder with all the critical and sometimes sensitive info leaking from CI-G that we still know next to nothing about SQ42. Some white knights theorize that everything is ready to go held secretive on CI-Gs own servers in "special" dev-builds but honestly....my own take on the matter (there is no SQ42 at the moment, apart from very basic frist steps there is nothing that could be booted up and be done) seems far more reasonable.
Certain people like to underline that CI-G is basically producing TWO games but fail to understand that these 2 games are basically the same. One focuses on multiplayer, the other on single-player content. The assets, the AI routines, animations, everything is identical except from that focus. So its not like CI-G is doing something incredible. IMO just milking the playerbase even more for what they are worth (enough games offer single AND multiplayer modes in one package). I also tend to believe that SQ42 will NOT be a full fledged game but at best a short tutorial mode for Star Citizen. The amount of content CI-G manages to create for SC just makes me worry how far along or content-dense SQ42 really is. And again....if most people would work on SQ42 and are indeed pretty far along info would slip out and more changes would be felt in SC because of it.
Another thing I thought about......isnt Star Citizen designed as "game as a service"? So if SC releases and flops hard chances are the servers will go down forcing everybody to play in offline mode which betrays the very core idea of Star Citizen. Right now the Amazon Server Park comes up heavily, that cannot be cheap and as far as I understand Star Citizen buckles under the heavy workload in up- and down-stream traffic. Anybody has any idea what kind of cost we are talking here?
So, got into a discussion on reddit about what actually would be considered a release.
One of the faithful popped in and dropped this wonderful post.
Yup, you heard it here first! Star Citizen was released in 2015!
Well you can of course spin it until it breaks, however I never heard it was going gold in 2015, and no one would say they consider the game a game ready to release. Can I buy it on steam? No can I buy it and earn the ships in game while I play it? No, I rest my case.
As a long term backer, and if I had coffee and some of my wife's banana muffins to brighten my day...I'd optimistically suggest option #2.So... can someone brief things up?(ok kidding)
I know about the latest Forbes article. Any other significant news?
At least let us know of the score between:
...and all the colors in between.
- CR/CIG haters, that believe it will never come out and possibly is even a scam.
- ...
- The game(s) will eventually surface, possibly close to the end of the homo sapiens life-span of the current "bit older" gamer generation (and possibly after CR and co. give up project management to real people managing real projects - a la Freelancer) and will be underwhelming given the time/money/fuss of the whole project.
- ...
- CR/CIG lovers, that believe the game is coming, it is becoming better and better, money go to improvements and when released, it will storm over everything else space genre or not.
(just for the stats, I am very very VERY close to option #1)
If someone replies to me, please quote me so that I can easily track.
Option #1 is the more than likely outcome since the wheels are falling off a bit more every year
The biggie will be if the article makes it to print (as suggested by FTR). This will bring the subject to those people who have the good sense to avoid the cesspit of gaming chatter on the Internet.
Forbes as a print media has a very different audience to the other outlets that have covered CIG - specifically the business and financial world.
CIG could find themselves losing a lot of future options if the general business community knew their history from a 3rd party.
I'm not sure that those folks blindly supporting CIG know of the potential problems that this could bring.
So, got into a discussion on reddit about what actually would be considered a release.
One of the faithful popped in and dropped this wonderful post.
Yup, you heard it here first! Star Citizen was released in 2015!
Oh yes I remember how it got "released" back in 2015 (one year after ED) the gaming press panned it for being an "incomplete mess missing the advertised 100 systems, half the ships, VR, modding support and Linux port and most of the game". Edge magazine famously said "I'd rather install a virus on my PC" 1/10. It also got an 18 PEGI rating (contains violence, drag references and in game purchases). Steam reviews were mixed positive. Mac said it was "worth a buy". Look forward to the Switch version.
Dude its been done since 2014.
Viajero
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1/10 would have been extremely generous, I detect a certain tone of irony in your words mate.
Also the hilarious "drag references" typo
There are steam reviews about Star Citizen???
I have a feeling someone would be very interested to hear about your food procurement procedures.As a long term backer, and if I had coffee and some of my wife's banana muffins to brighten my day...I'd optimistically suggest option #2.
Option #1 is the more than likely outcome since the wheels are falling off a bit more every year
Erm... read it again, its a joke.
It is going to be Fab-u-lous, darling... once it is finished!
So they’re doing us a favour?
That’s some twisted logic!
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I think the worst part of this pipedream is CIG blowing up mostly every dollars they have received, nearly $200 million to make what, literally nothing, a broken tech demo. $200,000,000, this is insane and unbelievable.
With that amount of money you could buy a supercomputer to test effects of new drugs and medicine on the body, testing nuclear weapons, weather predictions etc
This could be donated to some diceases research; helping disabled people; NASA space research or whatever.
You know something that could actually be useful and make good use of money instead of this tremendous waste.
With that amount of money you could buy a supercomputer to test effects of new drugs and medicine on the body, testing nuclear weapons, weather predictions etc
This could be donated to some diceases research; helping disabled people; NASA space research or whatever.
You know something that could actually be useful and make good use of money instead of this tremendous waste.
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it's closer to 300 million now
He sold people dreams and hope. He's going to make a universe where you can be somebody. You'll see, you will ALL SEE! (Clenches fist!)
With that sort of money you could also build a fake empire
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