The Star Citizen Thread V10

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TBH, As much as I hate them, house rules need to be put into staged or planned events to avoid broken game mechanics running riot (for example, the 'no premium ammo/engineering tournaments' that permeate throughout ED, or the 'no fire in charge' rule that Mount and Blade Napoleonic and Holdfast groups generally adhere to).

Grenades have been and continue to be pretty buggy. I'm pretty sure that rules goes back to a time where the grenade bugs were particularly bad.

You weren't really able to throw a grenade. And if you tried you just dropped it, killing yourself and anyone close to you.
 
Not sure I see the link between a house rule on "no nades" grenades and server population.
What do you mean?

Right now Rexzilla is able to launch with a party close to 50 people. When this happens you essentially get your own private server, since the server only holds 50 people. Everyone in the server will, for the most part, agree to the "no nades" rules.

When/if server meshing is implemented, anyone can show up at their location. It isn't limited to the 50 people in the server. And people who don't agree with the "no nades" rule can show up.
 

Goose4291

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Grenades have been and continue to be pretty buggy. I'm pretty sure that rules goes back to a time where the grenade bugs were particularly bad.

You weren't really able to throw a grenade. And if you tried you just dropped it, killing yourself and anyone close to you.

Could be worse, could be ArmA where they 'work', and people still manage to frag their own section by trying to lob them through windows/around corners and they bounce back at you. :D

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Grenades have been and continue to be pretty buggy. I'm pretty sure that rules goes back to a time where the grenade bugs were particularly bad.

You weren't really able to throw a grenade. And if you tried you just dropped it, killing yourself and anyone close to you.
Good lord, reminds me of laggy games where the animation would execute and the grenade count diminish after a couple of secs. Sometimes you'd even see grenade fly but no cigar.
 
TBH, As much as I hate them, house rules need to be put into staged or planned events to avoid broken game mechanics running riot (for example, the 'no premium ammo/engineering tournaments' that permeate throughout ED, or the 'no fire in charge' rule that Mount and Blade Napoleonic and Holdfast groups generally adhere to).

Well, yes, but its all going to go to pot once a random wanders into their roleplay and lobs a grenade into the middle of Rex's nicely lined up toy soldiers.
 
Putting aside my point about house rules (beloved by a lage chunk of the ED community as whole) How is RP (something regarded as great for the most part by this forums community) now be bad?

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Oh, we're talking about Star Citizen.

I shall now go purchase an 1dRi5 from Crobbers.

Roleplay is great! Nothing against roleplay. But Rex's brand of milsim roleplay is just... annoying. Shouty shouty.

If he was playing ED i'd have the same opinion.
 
the rest of the world doesn't give a jot about star citizen in the same manner either way.

By the same token, some backers seem to assume that should SC ever launch (and SQ42), the whole world is going to be buying it, when many of those who even hear of it will likely say meh, because they don't care about space games.
 

Goose4291

Banned
Well, yes, but its all going to go to pot once a random wanders into their roleplay and lobs a grenade into the middle of Rex's nicely lined up toy soldiers.

It's why groups like this tend to stick to their own prearranged events, and it acts as weird self-policing.

Using M&B Napoleonic for example, if you had a group full of people who were breaking ranks, firing in the charge or generally not playing to the rule of the night, the 'Regiment' (as they were called) would self-police and cull people like that from their groups, because otherwise they as a group wouldn't be re-invited.

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Roleplay is great! Nothing against roleplay. But Rex's brand of milsim roleplay is just... annoying. Shouty shouty.

If he was playing ED i'd have the same opinion.

I'd agree, its why as I've said prior in this thread (for the most part) I've left that kind of gaming behind me (I don't need some grizzled 12 yr old E-sgt squeaking at me quotes he's learnt from Generation Kill), however that's not what was being said here.

What is being said is that in the video, despite it being a cornerstone of our own gaming community here, and throughout many communities (I remember harrassing people with my squadmates to see their ID's on the streets of Tatooine as a Stormtrooper in Star Wars Galaxies), roleplay is a bit sad and desperate. Because Star Citizen.

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By the same token, some backers seem to assume that should SC ever launch (and SQ42), the whole world is going to be buying it, when many of those who even hear of it will likely say meh, because they don't care about space games.

As I've said a few times, I think we're misconstruing what they're saying which is that the mainstream gaming community will snap it up and buy it on release, as well as folk like myself sat on the fence, and I'm not a massive Chris Roberts fanboy but they may have a point (note the stress on may) when you consider how 'mainstream' by the standards of it's time Wing Commander 3 was.
 

Goose4291

Banned
We told the sarge there were cannons. In enfilade position. He wouldn't listen. They hit all but one of us. Ever seen a server full with 100 ppl say "GG" at the same time?

LOL. I've been there. It's why I don't play M&B anymore (or if I did, it'd have to be a regiment of 'sensible' folk like me)

Me: "Enemy Cav left of axis forming up!"
Silence
Me: "They're charging!"
Squeaker Sgt: "NO TALKING IN THE RANKS!!!!!"
Regiment Massacred and colours taken
Squeaker Sgt: "NO ONE WARNED ME ABOUT THE CAV!"

I like to think they're all foppish young lads like the cannon-fodder officers in Sharpe
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What is being said is that in the video, (...) roleplay is a bit sad and desperate. Because Star Citizen.
Tbh, I am inclined to agree a bit. Because there's no actual roleplay, unless Rexzilla roleplays a drill sergeant. The issue I see with this is that Star Citizen doesn't have much of its own lore that's worthy of roleplaying - you can try to roleplay a lot in Trek, SWars, history, etc (and I say this even disliking many of these RPs for various reasons, but I still can't deny they can be played out), but in Star Citizen you fall back to historical / contemporary military roleplay and it shows - it's just ArmA (with bad engine and mechanics) in shiny suits and they know it and desperately trying to find something to differentiate, while failing.

What is it that they actually ROLEplay? I can't see it in the video, it's mostly FPS. If this is roleplay, then CS:GO is roleplay, because they "roleplay" terrorists and CTs.
 
LOL. I've been there. It's why I don't play M&B anymore (or if I did, it'd have to be a regiment of 'sensible' folk like me)

Me: "Enemy Cav left of axis forming up!"
Silence
Me: "They're charging!"
Squeaker Sgt: "NO TALKING IN THE RANKS!!!!!"
Regiment Massacred and colours taken
Squeaker Sgt: "NO ONE WARNED ME ABOUT THE CAV!"

I like to think they're all foppish young lads like the cannon-fodder officers in Sharpe
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Most were actually somewhat mature. We had but few "squeakers" and they were made fun of heavily. The seargent and corporals were to lead the line every now and then and our seargent had the thickest of Scottish accents, so he was a staple of the line since we were the Black Watch.
Oh and we sucked vs Cav - I even found out that the other regiments knew too and actively sought us out!
 
It's why groups like this tend to stick to their own prearranged events, and it acts as weird self-policing.

Using M&B Napoleonic for example, if you had a group full of people who were breaking ranks, firing in the charge or generally not playing to the rule of the night, the 'Regiment' (as they were called) would self-police and cull people like that from their groups, because otherwise they as a group wouldn't be re-invited.

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I'd agree, its why as I've said prior in this thread (for the most part) I've left that kind of gaming behind me (I don't need some grizzled 12 yr old E-sgt squeaking at me quotes he's learnt from Generation Kill), however that's not what was being said here.

What is being said is that in the video, despite it being a cornerstone of our own gaming community here, and throughout many communities (I remember harrassing people with my squadmates to see their ID's on the streets of Tatooine as a Stormtrooper in Star Wars Galaxies), roleplay is a bit sad and desperate. Because Star Citizen.

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As I've said a few times, I think we're misconstruing what they're saying which is that the mainstream gaming community will snap it up and buy it on release, as well as folk like myself sat on the fence, and I'm not a massive Chris Roberts fanboy but they may have a point (note the stress on may) when you consider how 'mainstream' by the standards of it's time Wing Commander 3 was.

The funny thing is, despite all my bashing of SC and laughing at the development, and not believing CR to be the second coming of christ, if SC turns out to be a decent game (from my perspective), then I'll probably get it. Its got some good potential there, it just seems like CR is doing everything to stop it turning into a good game.
 
LOL. I've been there. It's why I don't play M&B anymore (or if I did, it'd have to be a regiment of 'sensible' folk like me)

Me: "Enemy Cav left of axis forming up!"
Silence
Me: "They're charging!"
Squeaker Sgt: "NO TALKING IN THE RANKS!!!!!"
Regiment Massacred and colours taken
Squeaker Sgt: "NO ONE WARNED ME ABOUT THE CAV!"

I like to think they're all foppish young lads like the cannon-fodder officers in Sharpe

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Source: https://clips.twitch.tv/GorgeousOnerousWoodcockNerfBlueBlaster
 
Indeed. So delusional and irrelevant that the person I was quoting just acknowledged their comments were a bit silly.
…which, again, was not relevant to the comment we're talking about since he wasn't part of that discussion — no amount of image macros will make it so. How are these things so hard for you to understand? You keep circling back to that irrelevant point and can't even comment on the fact that you keep pointing fingers and then refusing to own the nonsense you spout.

Can you actually address the point? Do you even understand why you're being called out for your finger-pointing and your furious attacks on those windmills?
 
Nah, I think Goose might be right about a thing here. Saying some of the $46m was deployed to make the Forbes article 'go away' from public view is daft.

The Forbes article did what it did, doubtlessly, which is warn people with financial leanings that CIG has some red flags sticking out of it on that front. But that wasn't hugely likely to make a big public stir. SC is, indeed, decidedly niche. (And yes, before you say it Goose, so is ED. Happy now? ;))

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That said, the 'Zilla roleplay is funny to me because their main fight is with the game ;)
 

Viajero

Volunteer Moderator

Interesting to witness Yamiks spontaneous surprise and laughter at the issues with this project after 7 years and 250 millions. His absolute gobsmacking at the realization that you still need to grind in a (testing) alpha just to be able to test most of its features is priceless in his matter-of-factness.

All this no doubt is the product of a genius visionary with the highest standards and commitment to execution quality and fidelity 😋
 
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Nah, I think Goose might be right about a thing here. Saying some of the $46m was deployed to make the Forbes article 'go away' from public view is daft.
…which, again, wasn't the point. The point was that he once again went off on one of his bashing sprees against posters in the thread, calling them out on a behaviour that only exists in his head. He keeps doing this and then refuses to acknowledge what he's doing or backing up what he says, to the point where it just becomes blatant trolling and abuse. Indeed, when called out on it, he just doubles down on the generalisations and windmill-chasing.
 
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