Have mercy please...can you add a tl;dr
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Have mercy please...can you add a tl;dr
yes, we want both games to be fun..that thought must be punished..most people on THIS forum want genuine fun, fix controllers, stop making mouse mandatory, allow 6DoF, allow normal throttle in decoupled mode, stop making looks over practicality in all aspects, current power management is as lame as it gets.
and those are complaints most people are saying, they don't want another elite, they want that game to be FUN and not frustrating because some part of controls suck and ships in a space game are artificially limited by developer incompetence (wrong thruster placement) or other things.
Add not sell out and make a game for the lowest common denominator contrary to the message at kickstarter.
"There's an opportunity right now to come into the business if you focus on PC and sophisticated gamers who aren't getting a lot of content and say, look, I'm one of you. I want to make a game for you guys. "
- Chris Roberts
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Still not getting the point. Star Citizen is it's own thing. It has nothing to do with Elite. You can give feedback on how you want it to be fun on the RSI forums that's all good. What punishment? Why is everyone so overdramatic?
Also please chill it's 0.8 controller's will improve. Mouse is not mandatory and 6DoF is in but not enabled without decouple. Saying something is as lame as it gets is nowhere near proper feedback. So either give proper feedback or just yell at a wall
Kickstarter was a long time ago and while kickstarter was running Chris never expected that he can fund the whole game through crowdfunding. Now that he can he can pretty much do whatever he likes. Which is the great thing about crowdfunding it gives people creative freedom.
When you combine that with a development company like CIG that listens and reads all of community feedback then you have good results on the way.
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E3 2014: Hands-on with Star Citizen and a chat with Chris Roberts
Chris Roberts prefers a joystick or controller to the mouse and keyboard. This came up immediately upon meeting him for our Star Citizen demo/interview at this year's E3. As someone who's mainly watched news on the game from the sidelines, sitting in awe of what looks like a terribly complex title with tons of gameplay options, I was a bit intimidated going into this sit-down. But I came out of it feeling, well, relaxed.
http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/0...th-star-citizen-and-a-chat-with-chris-robert/
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I guess once you say to your fanboys how unique and great they are, it will be difficult afterwards to sell them something very simillar of what ED already is.
They are stuck in a psychological trap, i guess.
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Still not getting the point. Star Citizen is it's own thing. It has nothing to do with Elite. You can give feedback on how you want it to be fun on the RSI forums that's all good. What punishment? Why is everyone so overdramatic?
That's the problem of the SC fanboys. They apparently don't want to see that there is only ONE best way to make a space sim feel fun. FD tried all different possibilities and they came up with the best solution.
Can't see how SC could become fun without using the exact same flight model. Sorry.
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If they would have found a better one til now, then they would already have put it in AC.
This is how a lot of remakes get screwed up in the movie world. They try to be clever and do something very different instead update with today's technology, and then you get a remake like Total Recall
Yeah I am usually a defender of AC but regarding HUD power management and the radar holo orb there needs to be improvement.
Think they shouldnt fix controls to much, because if yaw and pitch speed remain as fast and are as precise as for example ED then they would be problamatic.
Still not getting the point. Star Citizen is it's own thing. It has nothing to do with Elite. You can give feedback on how you want it to be fun on the RSI forums that's all good. What punishment? Why is everyone so overdramatic?
How can't you understand that we do not want CIG to copy ED, however right now there is no fun at all playing AC. The turn rate is too fast, due to this you cannot outmaneuver your opponent, you always face him head to head - where is fun in this? Flight controls are simply a joke. Everyone hear is overdramatic how you have said it because right now AC simply sucks.
Well then come back when Star Citizen is released if you are so discomforted. I enjoyed my flights and fights although i think it needs improvements which i am sure it will get because this is an alpha process.
That's how development is
Can't really change that. It was their decision to launch it early without it being finished so the backers can have it in their hands and give feedback.i am not talking about yaw/roll, but more about the way they implemented stick responsiveness. they need to GREATLY change that as currently there are big deadzone, then slow slow slow slow and then very very fast, those curves are killing me as it require precision that stick cannot provide
also mouse shouldn't control movement AND weapon same time, or if it should then in much much smaller area in a center of the screen, you just cannot force all to play with mouse just to be competitive.
Still not getting the point. Star Citizen is it's own thing. It has nothing to do with Elite. You can give feedback on how you want it to be fun on the RSI forums that's all good. What punishment? Why is everyone so overdramatic?
I often hear excuses like this.
Let's put this into perspective.
SC wants to be the BDSSE.
But .. but you cant compare it to game A no, because it's different.
And .. also can't compare it to game B because it's different too.
In fact, SC is such a unique snowflake it's incomparable to anything really, that's how special the game will be.
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But it's still going to be the BDSSE
It certainly will be the best game in it's own category this way if it isolates its self from the competition.
It's just double standards really.
That's how development is
Yeap, nothing changes. If I come back only when SC is released and won't make suggestions during the development, you - Mr. Novak will end up playing - The Best Damn Space S**t Ever (also known as BDSSE).
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i am not talking about yaw/roll, but more about the way they implemented stick responsiveness. they need to GREATLY change that as currently there are big deadzone, then slow slow slow slow and then very very fast, those curves are killing me as it require precision that stick cannot provide
also mouse shouldn't control movement AND weapon same time, or if it should then in much much smaller area in a center of the screen, you just cannot force all to play with mouse just to be competitive.
The may allow mouse to control both ship movement and weapons, however, these players should be isolated to their own instances.
It will be the ONLY game in it's own category, so in that case it will be the BDSCGE (Best Damn Star Citizen Game Ever)....which, isn't really saying anything.
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