The Star Citizen Thread v5

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dayrth

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'I imagine "what if the player deliberately tries to screw up the physics" wasn't the highest priority, no.'

Isn't that exactly what bug testing comprises of? Eventually anyway

The way we do it is that us devs positive test our own work. That is make sure it can do what we wanted it to do.

Then it goes off to the QA/Testers. They positive test it again (because you can never rely on anyone testing their own work). They also try every possible combination of actions they can think of and see if it still works.
Then they negative test it. That is they try everything they can think of to break it, because you can be sure that once released that's what the customers will do.
Then they do regression testing. That is they make sure that what you made/fixed this time did not break something else.

All this is done before alpha testing is even though about.

Having said all that though, it is worth pointing out that bugs always get through. Some even get through to release.

Edit: Also worth pointing out that I don't claim to be a game developer. This is business software I'm talking about.
 
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I mostly agree with you except that now I don't think anymore ppl. should be tolerant about all this bugs,glitches,errors and overall game stability.Game is 5 years into the development(half-decade) they even invent PTU for chosen citizen where they will test and polish most of the bugs&errors(that was the CR idea) before it goes live for the rest of us "pesants"+we are witnessing lately that CIG showing less&less respect to their backers by tagging them and changing their TOS to the worst in gaming history...so yeah I don't get it why should ppl. need to be tolerant anymore on all of this "piggery" that CR and his CO get us all involved ...
This is really a bad view on the matter of 'beta' or testing areas such as PTU's, opening the floodgates to everyone, ends up with a ton of noise on reports, enormous amount of duplication, people not making actual reports but just being upset at something, and whatnot, and lets not forget those that just 'play' the game and complain about bugs without making a bug report... limiting it (though how it should be limited is a thing open for debate I agree) is the only way to get less noise on the report and bugs end, so they can actually find and kill bugs without having to filter out all noise, same goes with Elite when people complain about Beta, there is a solid reason behind it.
 
Well after you make sure first to "soften"things on your way...we get the answer that both of us can agree upon........cheers
I'm sorry but my opinions are more complicated than "it's fine" or "OMFG IS THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!!!!". So yeah, if what you mean by soften is explain my opinion I will probably do it always... because mostly I will say what I think.
 
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This is really a bad view on the matter of 'beta' or testing areas such as PTU's, opening the floodgates to everyone, ends up with a ton of noise on reports, enormous amount of duplication, people not making actual reports but just being upset at something, and whatnot, and lets not forget those that just 'play' the game and complain about bugs without making a bug report... limiting it (though how it should be limited is a thing open for debate I agree) is the only way to get less noise on the report and bugs end, so they can actually find and kill bugs without having to filter out all noise, same goes with Elite when people complain about Beta, there is a solid reason behind it.

Well I get your point and I am not saying that you are beeing wrong about it and I will agree with you if the game was "sold" and advertised like so many others games in early access but now let's look the FACTS about SC.I backed the game that supposed to granted me an ALPHA access (that's how game was ADVERTISED) now I don't have that access anymore because CR invented apha for the chosen citizens(PTU)beside that as a reason for doing this CR said that they will make it more polished and more stable before it goes live...well guess what I AM NOT SEEING THAT at all and as cherry on the top of the cake CIG start tagging their backers and changing their TOS from bad to worst.....I am srry but contrary to your opinion I don't think that CIG deserves anymore credits from their backers at all......
 
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Yeah because explaining that for me the TAGs(even though some appear to see this as the critical part) are not the issue but what they do with them is the real problem is... soften.


Ok, believe what you want :D
 
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dayrth

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Yeah because explaining that for me the TAGs(even though some appear to see this as the critical part) are not the issue but what they do with them is the real problem....

I have to agree with this. The tags were offensive, but if they had tagged customers as type 1, type 2, type 3... etc. it would not have altered the policy of not responding to a certain type of customer, and that is not acceptable. Using those offensive tags was rather stupid though. Bound to alienate your customers.
 
Bound to alienate your customers.

No popular media sites report on these stories.
So outside of places like this,reddit or SA, noone really knows about it.
People who were critical will just be "typical CIG practises" and people who are fans will not care and will just pretend everything is normal.
 
It'll be interesting to see how SQ42 ranks up against the new Mass Effect game.
The gameplay thats visible in the trailer looks really polished with tons of "handcrafted fidelity"... something that's supposed to be CIG's expertise ;)
ME is even releasing sooner.
 
It'll be interesting to see how SQ42 ranks up against the new Mass Effect game.
The gameplay thats visible in the trailer looks really polished with tons of "handcrafted fidelity"... something that's supposed to be CIG's expertise ;)
ME is even releasing sooner.

are you serious with your statement?

even FTL demolishes SQ42 in terms of game mechanics

it is a no contest as shown in the previous post

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ME4 will make the new benchmark for sure, even ED will be compare on some of it, when we can walk around i guess. However SQ42 as a SP will be impacted 100%.

CIG will probably redo it again, when they see ME4.
 
It'll be interesting to see how SQ42 ranks up against the new Mass Effect game.
The gameplay thats visible in the trailer looks really polished with tons of "handcrafted fidelity"... something that's supposed to be CIG's expertise ;)
ME is even releasing sooner.

It'll be very difficult if not impossible. ME is a well established franchise with previous proven successes, even without big Hollywood names, so...
 
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CIG will probably redo it again, when they see ME4.

That's my thought exactly. Just like after Ender's Game came out, Chris Roberts suddenly wanted something like it in Star Citizen, and we got: Sataball.

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It's like he sees something he likes, and goes: "We HAVE to have this or something like it in our game. Make it happen!"
 
I keep seeing things that makes me wonder,maybe some certain individuals with multiple accounts in here only keeping the CIG side because of their investment and profiting on the grey market and not because of their actual and honest opinion about the game.
Multiple accounts? Again with this?
If someone believe this, please report me, if that's true the mods will ban me. It's that simple... but stop with the witchhunt of everyone that do not see the things like you.
So from now on Rolan I make a decision to avoid reading certain posters and as you said there is a very handy tool that's called ignore list...
Is your right to do it, I find it "curious" but is your right to do it.
farewell and take care in your life....
Same to you.
 
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Well, this thread may be polarised in opinion but I for one am encouraged to read such grounded comments from Ben. Quite refreshing to get points made from the "front-line" that aren't sugar coated in excessive hype. This thread does have the ability to go from overly excited Star Citizen fan to Star Citizen dev or just the Space-Game-Clarkson ramblings of Mr Smart which is worth the non-required entry fee in itself.

Unless of course all of these people are one and the same, I can't help but notice Max, Derek and Ben never appear around the same time. The final twist will be Chris Roberts himself turning up and revealing himself to be none other than Elite co-founder Ian Bell. Aha!
 
Multiple accounts? Again with this?
If someone believe this, please report me, if that's true the mods will ban me. It's that simple... but stop with the witchhunt of everyone that do not see the things like you.

Is your right to do it, I find it "curious" but is your right to do it.

Same to you.

From my perspective, I have never seen any of your posts being personal or disrespectful. Its important to have two sides to this conversation as long as facts are accepted or at least acknowledged on both sides whether they are positive or negative. I am personally glad that you post here in a respectful manner even though I doubt we would agree on much regarding CIG business practice and the SC project generally.
 
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