The Star Citizen Thread v5

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Which is exactly why I say this day in age you are either charging money and delivering a product or not. CIG has locked their product behind a paywall therefore they are open to criticism.

Ok, you can criticize all you want but that has nothing to do with software versioning unless you weren't making the argument that because it is listed as version 2.x.x that it's not an alpha. That is how I viewed your previous comment.
 
No, not the same, that was a derek smart source.

As I said you can take it with as much salt as you like (and as a star citizen fan that will be a lot).
You guys... tend to be a little extremist... but sure... whatever you say...

SQ42 is not going to be released this year, they already pushed the release date out of 2016.

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It's on a need to know basis, and you don't need to know :D
Have I said something about SQ42?o_O

And... ok...
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Honestly, it's one of those broken clock situations though isn't it. Anyone can hazard a guess that SQ-42 might well, now be 2017 and that the major SC updates may also not materialise in the next 6 months. Doesn't necessarily prove or dis-prove a leak.
 
Even puns tangentially related to the issue are currently being actively removed from this thread, so no. Not that I blame them.

You're going to have to Google it.
 
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You guys believe whatever you want.

The things I've seen, can't be unseen.

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I have seen things too...outside of their marketing loop
 
Ok, you can criticize all you want but that has nothing to do with software versioning unless you weren't making the argument that because it is listed as version 2.x.x that it's not an alpha. That is how I viewed your previous comment.

Let me tell you the dirty secret about software versioning: it's whatever marketing can get legal to agree to. What the programmers choose to use is irrelevant.
 
Thanks and I looked over a few of the latest pdfs but I cannot find where it says that Erin makes 300k or any other salaries for that matter. Perhaps it's apart of the numbers that I'm just not seeing.


"Directors Remuneration including other benefits £192,915" from the "Total exemption small company accounts made up to 31 December 2015" Page 16.

Now, whether Chris and Ortwin draw a 3rd of that each, or if they get paid from any of the other companies and all £192k / $250 goes to Erin is something I have no clue about.
 
"Directors Remuneration including other benefits £192,915" from the "Total exemption small company accounts made up to 31 December 2015" Page 16.

Now, whether Chris and Ortwin draw a 3rd of that each, or if they get paid from any of the other companies and all £192k / $250 goes to Erin is something I have no clue about.

It used to be USD 300,000 based on exchange rates throughout 2014/2015 up until recently with Brexit.
 
The same leakers that said back in 2.2 or 2.3 that the PU was in maintenance mode and that no more patches were going to be released?.... a whole bucket of salt then.
well technically so far its been pretty maintenance mode development we have seen and nobody has said anything about stopping the patching support.
pretty much can see it without any sources, heres the main features of each patches.

2.1
https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/306826/2-1-0-published-to-ptu

  • The first iteration of our new physicalized EVA system is in place.

2.2
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link//15211-Star-Citizen-Alpha-220

  • We have increased the number of players and player-ships per instance of Crusader from 16 to 24.
  • [h=3]Monitored Space System[/h][h=3]Bounty System[/h]the start of implementing item system 2.0 (no way to confirm it since its backend work)

2.3
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link//15268-Star-Citizen-Alpha-230

Item system 2.0 work implementation continues

2.4
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link//15377-Star-Citizen-Alpha-240

  • shops
  • [h=3]Bounty and Reputation System[/h]
  • [h=3]Persistence[/h]
  • [h=3]Port Modification App[/h]


2.5
Item system 2.0 implementation work
Grim-hex station addet
Player Health System 2.0


This is progress?
to me it looks like maintenance of a finished game thats been released already.
they haventh implemented any huge gameplay mechanics in 4 patches
 
"Directors Remuneration including other benefits £192,915" from the "Total exemption small company accounts made up to 31 December 2015" Page 16.

Now, whether Chris and Ortwin draw a 3rd of that each, or if they get paid from any of the other companies and all £192k / $250 goes to Erin is something I have no clue about.

Thanks, now I see it! Didn't know what remuneration was.

Solely judging by this report, I think it would be safe to assume that all three share the ~193k since Chris, Ortwin and Erin are all listed as directors and it does say "Directors' remuneration...." implying group ownership; I wouldn't have the slightest clue how it would be divvied up though
 
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well technically so far its been pretty maintenance mode development we have seen and nobody has said anything about stopping the patching support.
pretty much can see it without any sources, heres the main features of each patches.

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This is progress?
to me it looks like maintenance of a finished game thats been released already.
they haventh implemented any huge gameplay mechanics in 4 patches
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Maintenance mode =/= no huge gameplay mechanic patches

And even though I agree that the progress was less of what it should have been, there is progress.

There is no maintenance mode, they may don't progress in the way many of us would want but that doesnt transform the PU into maintenance mode... and with every patch that has been released this has become more and more a fact.

And I'm almost sure someone indeed said that no more content will reach the PU.
 
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I do, however, think they will continue development. They have a lot of talented people, and in my own experience people with talent tend to not stay in roles they find mind-numbingly boring or ultimately pointless. We will see something released eventually. There's even the possibility it might even be good! As to when though - that is anybody's guess - but 36 months at least is mine.

That's the one thing I'm not entirely certain they do have going for them. They do have some talented people, and it appears they are taking in a lot of entry level as well, and they also did have quite a few talented people that have now left. I think the latter is more of an indication that the more talented people have dwindled since the beginning and it mostly likely hasn't stopped yet. No one likes to refactor in development, but the person holding the stirrup and the whips is never happy so things appear to keep going back to the drawing board or things, in this case definitely, getting either scratched or put on back burners indefinitely. That is one absolute way to drive away good artists/programmers/modellers/etc. I don't think they've actually hit the critical mass yet for truly upsetting their devs, but I bet they are getting close, because no one ever wants an absolute rank failure on their resume and especially when there was so much more money that went into it than many successes combined in the same genre still don't add up to the same amount of invested dollars.

Some of these people appear to be far too unhinged to leave it at disappointment.

Sean Murray received death threats from some nuts because NMS was delayed two months. Yes, it was delayed previously but still an additional two months and still even then DEATH THREATS FOR A DELAYED SOFTWARE RELEASE?! There are some incredibly mental individuals that play computer games.

Now tack on some that are clearly over the moon that have put in thousands and...
 
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http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/08/04/who-are-the-star-citizen-superbackers

As I was reading the accounts of SC super backers the voices started to sound like the elderly people in the Saul Goodman commercials in "Better call Saul" :)

Old Lady in rocking chair: "I put my life savings into Star Citizen. Chris Roberts said he'd get me a game by the time I was 25. That was 73 years ago...He's still taking my money, even though all financial currency was abolished back in 2057"
 
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http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/08/04/who-are-the-star-citizen-superbackers

As I was reading the accounts of SC super backers the voices started to sound like the elderly people in the Saul Goodman commercials in "Better call Saul" :)

Old Lady in rocking chair: "I put my life savings into Star Citizen. Chris Roberts said he'd get me a game by the time I was 25. That was 73 years ago...He's still taking my money, even though all financial currency was abolished back in 2057"

Denial, that is what most of the big backers are in, Denial it's a great state to be in when reality knocks at your door.
 
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