The Star Citizen Thread v5
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It's actually creepy to see people pop up in forums of totally unrelated games (a certain MMO for example) and go "Hey guys, I'm a new user, but I thought I'd let you know about this great game that industry legend Rris Chroberts is making, it's called Space Peasant! Here's a code you can use to sign up which gets me benefits (and you too, totally!)"
A bit like Jehovas' Witnesses, that.
And oh, "Your game can never hope to compete with our lofty dreams and ambitions", that's always a good line. I mean heck, anyone doing the reverse thing on the CIG forums is equally silly. But that doesn't seem to happen all that much, weirdly enough.
LOL...owned.
Good job.
First time I bothered to actually save such a 'shot. It was so offensive that I knew it would have been "Erased by Mod"- he was banned too.
The name rang a bell and I checked. As others said- bingo.
First of all - I do not want SC to fail, but as software dev I have a lot of questions and doubts about project...
When I see their design ideas and concepts:
1) I see, insane amount of work hours needed
2) I see, sometimes total inpracticability like manual cargo transfer..this design idea in real life could get boring and repetitive fast..
3) I see, missed deadlines again and again due project overall complexity
About money..currently they have 5 main studios and lot of industry veterans hired (they are not cheap) so their monthly expanses are huge at least few million per month I guess..
so no wonder people are asking questions about money...
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Artemis Zodiac
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all you guys responding...theres just a few more usuall suspects yet to comment..........same old names defending it to the hilt....
i don't hate you all.....just wanted to say that.....Your as passionate about ED as i am SC,its cool.
some of you really do make this forum look brainwashed....some of us have more than just ELITE in our games collections for that last 30 plus years.
i don't hate you all.....just wanted to say that.....Your as passionate about ED as i am SC,its cool.
some of you really do make this forum look brainwashed....some of us have more than just ELITE in our games collections for that last 30 plus years.
If you look carefully you might notice that no-one is actually defending ED at all.
They're just commenting on your rather interesting and somewhat provocatively worded post.
Exactly, I personally still play Elite and like it, but I see that its has a lot of issues, too.
I know few friends that had the same expectations for Elite like now a lot of people still have for SC...and now they are not playing Elite anymore...and are disappointed...the same for NMS...
So I just recommend to moderate your expectations
Artemis Zodiac
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also gents im not new to ED.....
Been playing since December 16th launch.....played the original on a speccy back in the day.
elite ranked....billionaire......ranked up in both fed and empire...i own every ship there is to own.....i have been in most of the known player groups in ED..
i have probably been to places in this game no others have........
Elite has given me my moneys worth already no doubt.......but i want more....i want it to evolve.
but if it does it then will not be your old school elite....
what do you guys want?.....the game as is?..or the game with more mechanics like we have in SC.
i backed this game after watching the old dev video where they talk about walking around stations ect....that's why i bought in....i thought "hell yeah"....a basic evolution from the. originals.....but its not at the mo.
been waiting for a space game to do all this for years...and SC seems to be matching my expectations and imagination gentlemen.
Been playing since December 16th launch.....played the original on a speccy back in the day.
elite ranked....billionaire......ranked up in both fed and empire...i own every ship there is to own.....i have been in most of the known player groups in ED..
i have probably been to places in this game no others have........
Elite has given me my moneys worth already no doubt.......but i want more....i want it to evolve.
but if it does it then will not be your old school elite....
what do you guys want?.....the game as is?..or the game with more mechanics like we have in SC.
i backed this game after watching the old dev video where they talk about walking around stations ect....that's why i bought in....i thought "hell yeah"....a basic evolution from the. originals.....but its not at the mo.
been waiting for a space game to do all this for years...and SC seems to be matching my expectations and imagination gentlemen.
Please don't start arguing with this guy so he starts insulting people and gets banned. This is easily the most hilarious thing I read all day
Also, why would ANYONE who isn't a personal rival of CR want SC to fail? People are just concerned it's going to fail because it's a very mismanaged but great idea and its failure would push the space game genre back.
We are just afraid CR will screw up and undo all the good he did to the revival of the genre, especially after NMS.
Also, why would ANYONE who isn't a personal rival of CR want SC to fail? People are just concerned it's going to fail because it's a very mismanaged but great idea and its failure would push the space game genre back.
We are just afraid CR will screw up and undo all the good he did to the revival of the genre, especially after NMS.
Artemis Zodiac
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funnily enough i do have the one that crushed han solos leg whilst making the latest SW film...its yours for a monkey
Well we know a lot of the things promised for SC are also in the pipeline for ED - DB was talking about a 10 year plan and then lo and behold CR suddenly started mentioning a 10 year plan having previously said everything was drop in one big hit with their super fast parallel development pipelines or whatever guff he was on about.
They were pretty informative as to when that will come.
Why are you asking for a feature to a game NOW that has specifically said it won't have it yet, and will have it in the future?
Why are you having trouble understanding this?
Good for you, for me unfortunately their ship designs - jet-fighter like ships and terrible cockpits of some ships with huge intrusive bars are BIG immersion breaker...
I backed SC back in 2013, but now I am not sure will I ever will try to play it..
Did you even bother to look at Elite's long term plans?
You could try putting that phrase into google and seeing if anything turned up - www.google.co.uk - it's a very useful site to have bookmarked.
[video=youtube;t704hxT9bd0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t704hxT9bd0[/video]
19:30 in
Are we going to have to wait for Sqn 42 to see the F8?
No , we have been talking about a different way to bring that and the F7A into the universe, so we'll...stay tuned
No I mean the F8
Yeah, the Lightning
So is that now, in the beginning, the first time you and I talked about this, which is at this point three years ago, When I did your fist video, that ship[ was never going to be sold to people back then, is that now changed, are you going to put that up for sale, for people eventually?
I think it is possible, um, its role in Squadron has change a bunch since then, so it's a thought, we'll see how we do it, I don't know if it will be literally "everyone buy this ship" it may be more of a promotional thing or I don't know, we would like to give people a way to try it out
Make of that what you will, "try it out" might be a Free fly weekend as much a sale.
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SC fans tend towards (not all but most) disingenuous sneering evangelism at best and online harassment up to and including death threats at worst. As a bunch they are not very nice people and don't come across well or make points well. This has been going on for years and lots of gamers have come under attack from them.
They can't do it here due to unbiased mod policy and a lack of down-voting, but there are lots of RSI forum refugees here who appreciate free speech.
Dreaming is going a bit far I like and enjoy space games, SC are unfortunately not delivering but they have taken 120 million out of the market. It's increasingly looking like SC will miss the second coming possibly by a decade.
Personally I found out about ED through SC, tried the demo and backed immediately (autumn 2014) SC have not yet reached a level of comparable quality. They are not a contender I'd reconsider if this changes. However I also really dislike pay2win.
The quality of SC is a massive problem, it's not the fault of prospective and existing customers that they try it and refund or don't buy. It's CiG's fault for not living up to their own hype and missing all those release dates.
Telling me I have to hack the game to make it playable does not make it more appealing (although I do it regularly for decades old favourite titles), the opposite in fact. It makes me think if it's that easy a solution why haven't CiG implemented something similar at source.
Already explained my view on on having to hack a "AAA" title.
There's nothing exclusive about that. Space legs and multicrew are on the way for ED, it's been planned since the beginning you can see this from the size of ED's ships (they won't need to be refactored to fit pilots inside). Given both games track records it will probably be available at better quality in ED faster.
No t-posed commando's falling though the floor or being killed by stairs in the ED version I'd imagine. Again I'll bet on FD quality against CiG hype any day.
With SC you are currently getting one hell of a lot less, nothing indicates SC won't continue to fail amid unrealistic hype for a lot more time and money. ED's continuing to improve SC just circling the drain without making any visible progress.
Given CiG's track record of demo's that fail to make release it's nothing new
It was a "real" demo from a company with a track record of not delivering.
No the more complex the game becomes the slower development will become, unless they chuck a load of content in without any bugfixing at all.
Luckily for you you'll have a quality game to play whilst you wait a few decades for your NMS style disappointment with SC.
I can't detect a point there.
Mad or a discerning customer who doesn't repeatedly fall for empty hype from a developer with a poor track record for delivering ?.
Jealous do you really think I can't simply buy the game in the highly unlikely event of it being any good.
Again more content incoming, and the actual flying about in ED is worlds ahead of a broken crysis mod with no-clip turned on.
No, it's a potential title to buy if it survives and on reaching gold release if it plays well in free-fly and doesn't get slaughtered in reviews and isn't 100% pay2win.
The prospect of being wrong means I get to play another good space game that isn't ED, I hope I'm wrong. But it's not looking good so far.
The latest news as I understand it is that CiG are being sued for not paying the contractor who built the space door, you know the one they said they made themselves without wasting backer money.
Hack to make it functional, again that's not a sign of qaulity.
If you don't like it don't buy it, that's the approach I take with SC.
I've no idea what your talking about, source it.
SC is not yet a real alpha let alone a game.
No you have people talking about orgs externally with no game to play in.
Yeah we've seen how CiG deal with bad space mens, they lock them in their room and they glitch straight out again in their underpants through the badly coded walls.
Does the shotgun still crash everyones game ?.
Why are you trying to attack planet coaster, what has that possibly got to do with star citizen and space games ?
More likely that 3 years from now star citizen has become the biggest scandal in crowdfunding history.
No it's not, I want it to be competition so I can play both. But SC is nowhere near ED's league.
Multibladed knives tend to be really shoddy and break easily, you are better off with a single well made blade an a few other specific tools.
Lol, buy an Idris.
Yep I can see CiG stealing that idea from FD, because it works.
Why do you resent the idea of me being happy with ED ?, that's really really strange.
I'm not so sure you know your stuff based on your post, you seem very emotionally invested in SC to a potentially unhealthy level (frustrated that people like ED). I hope you haven't put more than you can afford into it.
Mass effect I'm "meh" about, I don't do 3rd person.
Are you talking about ED a few seasons from now or COD:IW ?.
Artemis Zodiac
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my fear is ED will leave it too late...i feel SC and its online version will be playable before ED implements the same style......now we are all different as people and want different things.
for me its who gets there first ...and who blows my mind with how it looks and plays.......and at this current point in time...i feel SC will be that game.
and SC doesn't have a ten year plan that i know of....it will be done and dusted within the next few years.
still we are all justr wasting each others time debating/arguing...whatever.
may the best space game win.....you all say that there is room for more than one...very true.
there is more than one car sold on the market.......and if i had the choice of a Ferrari or a Cortina mk3....well id go for the Ferrari naturally.
god speed gentlemen...i wish no personal hatred or malice towards any of you.....and if SC Fails...i will be man enough to come here and say....gents..you were right.
not being very illiterate i guess im not to good on putting my passion into something constructive or readable lol....sorry for that....but i am passionate for space games.
Ah! Well thanks for the response. The removal of headbob is a good thing though, correct? It was very annoying.
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