Those levels look nice, don't get me wrong. Top notch artist work. Thanks for doing these summaries.
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Those levels look nice, don't get me wrong. Top notch artist work. Thanks for doing these summaries.
Nobody will want them though. The company itself is fine, the phone making division is just gone. They got complacient and stupid.
They never got complacent nor stupid. They misread the market and then couldn't catch to apple.
May be it just me but all of the maps look almost identical, a complete lack of originality.
The bar does look fab - but I couldn't help but think for all that I'm sure it's doing it in a much more genuine and less cheated way it does look a lot like Bioshock somehow
Actually well impressed by the animation going from zero-g to gravity and back, that's very smooth now.
Shouldn't come as a surprise as they seem to have no problem using (refactoring) other people's intellectual property, you know like sandworms and prowlers and what not.
Right okay then. Discourse Time.
The Motte: There's no way you'd have all the solar systems in one coordinate system, so you can always point at that and say "see? Derek Smart Was Right". In fact, I predicted this would happen at the start of the discussion, and you do it further down this post.
The Bailey: Parts of the same solar system are separate, and this is going to degrade the quality of the game. It's clear this is where you were going to begin with, firstly because your post was about the Stanton play area, secondly because you mocked the poor deluded fans who thought they'd be able to fly around the system unrestricted:
Further down, you'll walk back the "hiding something" claim to simply be that it's hiding the travel not looking good enough without it. This does seem like a case of "technically correct is the best kind of correct" syndrome.
(I'm skipping the physics thing here, I'll post about it later)
As far as I can tell, this is the first time you ever addressed me, and it's an insult. Then you complain that my nerdy throwaway gag isn't over-engineered enough for you. I won't get into this again (promise, mods, it'll be technical from here on out) but you're the one invested in maintaining some sort of "old school internet warlord" persona. My online (and let's be honest, offline) persona is about telling people how things work, finding out what they didn't understand, and pretty much telling them again until one of us dies. But if you'll talk down to me, I'll talk down to you, especially if you take time to correct my word usage to something that's an actual synonym, then screw up on a word that isn't.
I don't worry about my association with this project.
Most of your consistency is a result of transparent motte-and-bailey arguing techniques. Let's take the "stitching" thing as an example.
The Motte: There's no way you'd have all the solar systems in one coordinate system, so you can always point at that and say "see? Derek Smart Was Right". In fact, I predicted this would happen at the start of the discussion, and you do it further down this post.
The Bailey: Parts of the same solar system are separate, and this is going to degrade the quality of the game. It's clear this is where you were going to begin with, firstly because your post was about the Stanton play area, secondly because you mocked the poor deluded fans who thought they'd be able to fly around the system unrestricted:
Also, more simply, you explain in-system quantum travel as "a rubbish hack", and specifically calling out the boundary between atmosphere and space as the place it happens. If you want to go way, way back, you're calling for evidence of anything using 64-bit positioning precision at all.
Further down, you'll walk back the "hiding something" claim to simply be that it's hiding the travel not looking good enough without it. This does seem like a case of "technically correct is the best kind of correct" syndrome.
How can you be wrong? Your "on-the-record" proof of rightness is a couple of summary sentences from a guy who doesn't touch code. It was a quick high-concept summary of what I've tried, repeatedly, to explain here: After converting a module, some calculations make more sense to be done in 32-bit. If anything, the game currently does too much at 64-bit, because the guys doing the conversion erred on the safe side, so I'm always keeping my eye open for stuff that could be moved back to 32. So yeah, I'm pretty dang certain that no module (that deals with positions in the first place) has been left non-64'd. Just to be sure I wasn't leading you up the garden path on this one, I checked the AI code. Sure enough, it does its positioning in 64-bit.
Without an effect, everything just looks a little too static. People have some instinctive idea that fast movement means things whipping by, or some moderate parallax at least, but the stars are unfathomably far away. You chose to solve this by adding some Start Trek TNG style white zoom lines, CIG went for more of a JJ Abrams Tube type vibe.
No, you're still not getting it. Port Olisar isn't a box. It's just a bunch of brushes and entities grouped together, like a ship. The boxes I mentioned are an entity type that any asset can own several of, and are purely a way to hint to the renderer that it can avoid drawing renderables that are blocked by it. Portal culling, to speak generically.
(I'm skipping the physics thing here, I'll post about it later)
(this is the motte)
This was addressed to Tuub T Tute, it was intended in the same way that, when someone foreign ends a post with "sorry, English isn't my first language" and the rest of the post has perfect spelling and grammar, you dang well tell them that they have nothing to worry about. For the record, it's polite, especially if you're talking to someone from a different company, to try and pin down the exact meaning of any key technical terms before you set off. Arrogance is assuming you're fully comprehensible if someone reads you enough times, assuming your own use of a word is not only correct, but the only correct usage, and that your own comprehension skills are perfect.
Wait.
As far as I can tell, this is the first time you ever addressed me, and it's an insult. Then you complain that my nerdy throwaway gag isn't over-engineered enough for you. I won't get into this again (promise, mods, it'll be technical from here on out) but you're the one invested in maintaining some sort of "old school internet warlord" persona. My online (and let's be honest, offline) persona is about telling people how things work, finding out what they didn't understand, and pretty much telling them again until one of us dies. But if you'll talk down to me, I'll talk down to you, especially if you take time to correct my word usage to something that's an actual synonym, then screw up on a word that isn't.
I don't worry about my association with this project.
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Thank you. It's a very nice ant city. What flight model does it use?
Ohhh boy https://youtu.be/NOIzH6UcoW4
This is game which had most likely same amount of money and time as SC.
This is game which had most likely same amount of money and time as SC.
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It might have to do with legal liabilities. Like promising something, cashing in and then not delivering it.
My sides!
The character design and animation looks awful and amateurish. I've seen better fan art. I don't think EA lost even a tenth of SC's reported budget on this after the blunder that was Mass Effect 3. This is clearly not a AAA production (or a huge waste of money), it looks more like a mod made by hobbyists and I expect the writing not exceeding fan fiction quality either.
I'm not going to buy this, EA!
If only CIG could take the spiky lizard-thing guy from ME, cross it with a bouncing pineapple from NMS, and get it to drive a Big Track to one of Star Marine's completely empty and desolate bars and get completely blootered on Lavian Brandy - they'd be onto a winner
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This is a great post. Relevant in all kinds of project management, not just software or games.
This is a great post. Relevant in all kinds of project management, not just software or games.
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Wow, this looks extraordinary!
The Mass Effect series - INCLUDING Mass Effect 3! - is my favourite game series of all time, and right now there is no game I am more looking forward to than Andromeda!
Yeah - the bouncing thing was very distracting.
No Mandromeda Sky?
Looks great. I am getting ME:3 as a stocking filler so will look forward to this one later next year+1.
However I'd say that many places don't put charts or project plans on walls, especially if they do work for multiple clients. There's too much chance of external visitors seeing stuff they shouldn't.
So, the current thinking is that Star Marine's in the build, but not currently switched on (i.e. enabled) without hacking files?
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