This, its actually worse on controllers or using a straight up hotas.No, it's just bad all around, on a controller what would be "mouse clicks" are extra joystick jogs or clicks on the directional pad which are just as frustrating. And please stop scapegoating consoles for the bad UI, we're all in this mess together.
please stop scapegoating consoles for the bad UI
but he's not wrong that having a console version pretty much always makes the PC UI somewhat worse unless there's a separate PC specific UI.
Actually he is wrong.
for 1.5 years i play in parallel on XB with controller and on PC with kb/mouse and Horizons UI was dead perfect. No issues whatsoever
Here comes EDO, and the UI is a mess. This falls on the team not on the devices aimed for.
And let me tell you that the tile UI model is not as good for controllers as someone may imply. I have had no issues with carriers UI in Horizons using the PC KB/M, but on XB navigating those tiled buttons is not quite a pleasant experience, sometime requiring extra clicks.
If you think the Horizons UI is anything close to perfect you need to get out more.
Try counting how many button presses it takes to request docking.
bUt NuMbeRs ArE hArD tO rEaD!The one that is just a hot mess, is the weapon vendor, like, what the hell does that sliding bar even tell me for magazine size? why is that the ONLY thing i see for a gun? i dont get to see the power or anything of it?
Perfectly put! Thanks for coming and posting! Nobody asked for any of this just improve some of the deficits like bookmarks for exampleI don't post here much as I much rather prefer to play Elite instead but the Odyssey UI/UX changes are a DISASTER. What the hell F-dev? It's clear that you have done zero or near-zero design workshops with users which is a cardinal sin in revamping a products interface. A pretty UI is not UX, and the user experience of the system maps and galaxy maps is a train wreck. Information tucked away, too many clicks, too many mouse movements (thanks now I need to use the mouse?!). If you fix nothing else, please, fix the UX
"Touchscreens are THE FUTURE!"
Why couldn't they just add a few requested features to the existing Horizons UI? Why did they have to needlessly replace a great UI?Perfectly put! Thanks for coming and posting! Nobody asked for any of this just improve some of the deficits like bookmarks for example
No, it's just bad all around, on a controller what would be "mouse clicks" are extra joystick jogs or clicks on the directional pad which are just as frustrating. And please stop scapegoating consoles for the bad UI, we're all in this mess together.
3. THe UI was outsourced to a third party company with a list of user stories to fulfill. ow it got signed off on is another story.There are literally two circumstances for which I, if operating as a UI designer for Frontier, would design something like this.
1: (Less likely) If a team was working on a companion app for phones which allows you to replicate parts of the interface on your phone, which you could then have on your desk next to your keyboard, say, constantly open on the galmap so you do not need to bring it up on your main screen each time you want to use it.
2: (More plausible) If there was a bunch of development in progress on bringing the game to GeForce Now and/or XCloud, and an interface was desired by management which would work on touchscreens once gamers were able to stream ED to tablets and the like.
Idea of "press and hold" is not very good.The wheel menu is a lesson in frustration.
Oh... I missed the sarcasm. sorry it was late at night and I was exhausted (both in dealing with odyssey launcher and a screaming kid) when I wrote that previous post. Gotcha now.Hmm... reading is hard, it seems. All i wrote and what you quoted is that i before people told me better, i thought it was because of the design being made with a controller in mind. So, if i say that i formerly thought it was due to it being designed for controllers, i am scapegoating them? Interesting logic.
It is horrific.
It is enough to convince me that I'll be spending the majority of my time in Horizons rather than Odyssey. If this is the UI they force on Horizons when Odyssey releases on consoles, I will be forced to reconsider if this is the best way to waste my gaming time.
You must be joking…tThe new UI is awesome and easier to navigate. No issues using my HOTAS