The unavoidable poll: PvP vs PvE!

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Looks like it's time for another pole then!

There you go then

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joking aside, i get what people are saying about both being important. I may be wrong but i think what the OP may be getting at is.... given that dev time is finite, and given that spending 100 man hrs in 1 area means 100 hrs less in another area, and that money is limited and spending all the time on BOTH features cant happen

do you think PvE content is more important to prioritise in ED or PvP content.

this is how i read it at least.

I keep waiting for the influx of new/barely used accounts to come in and flood the PvP vote but it has not happened yet

 

[willowfan]

Voted PvE as I have zero interest in PvP in any form. Must say I wasn't expecting anything like a 90/10 split though!

 

[JonnyC0mbat]

Co-operative play against npc's is the aspect I really love.

I like the odd bit of PVP, but it's certainly not something I go out of my way to do. There's just something incredibly satisfying and fun flying in a wing, bringing justice to the pirate horde.

 

[frostypaw]

There are still a few of us that have abstained from the vote because we like both.
I wouldn't want to see either disappear from the game

I'm in the same camp, but did vote as in the end PvP is just a bonus not the meat for me... still felt slightly off doing it though.

I don't think the OP means to suggest it should be removed, it's more a matter of focus if I'm getting it right. It would be a shame if a lot of effort and time went into bits people aren't as bothered about when there's plenty of PvE elements that need work too, some of which would be far easier than the PvP related demands.

 

[ShimEnki]

Hmm, the poll results look like a very unbalanced US college football score..

 

[Tinman]

No, it doesn't. For those who feel that way no answer is sufficient. The poll's not abt finding out how many people have a central point of view. It's abt.finding out how many feel strongly one way or another. Players with a central view have no impact on the poll, thus there's no selection for them.

Not really true if this "data" should then be used for making a decision on what to focus on. Or be used to support some later argument on this forum: "Hey! Look what this poll showed!"

Only asking about the two extremes on a scale paints a rather skewed picture. A picture that in this case gives a 9:1 ratio in favor for PvE.

What if there was a "both" option and it turned out 90% voted for that with only 9% towards "PvE" and 1% towards PvP? Not saying this would be the actual numbers though. Just brining up the problem of phrasing a poll like this...or using statistics in general for that matter.

 

[Arubeto]

joking aside, i get what people are saying about both being important. I may be wrong but i think what the OP may be getting at is.... given that dev time is finite, and given that spending 100 man hrs in 1 area means 100 hrs less in another area, and that money is limited and spending all the time on BOTH features cant happen

do you think PvE content is more important to prioritise in ED or PvP content.

this is how i read it at least.

You read that right.

My idea is it would be ideal if dev time would be spend roughly proportional on features corresponding to what the community puts priority on. So if 25% of players see PvP as the highest priority and 75% see PvE as the highest priority - again, not the only priority, just the highest priotiry - I'd hope that approximately 25% of dev time is spend on PvP features and mechanics and 75% of dev time is spend on PvE features and mechanics. Both playstyles would prevail and still receive attention from the developers, but perhaps quantitatively more in line with what people do expect.

 

[warlock]

I swing both ways

 

[Vorxian]

Has to be said it's starting to get to the proportions where it can no longer be dismissed as merely more PvEers on the forums.... that's approaching a 90% decisive line where it might be worth considering if future development plans are going to satisfy that demand.

Aye it's exactly that-

90% is way way way too prominent than for it to be just a fluke.. ED priority should be on PvE, and really quite rightly so by the looks of it.

Explains some of the outrage when PvE is nerfed to balance PvP.. 90% of the population lose out. Food for thought.

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Interesting poll OP.. never expected it to be such a margin

 

[Robert Maynard]

Explains some of the outrage when PvE is nerfed to balance PvP.. 90% of the population lose out. Food for thought.

Not 90% of the population - 90% of those who chose to vote on a poll (open to all forum members, not just owners of the game) on the official forums (that have a rather small membership in comparison to the number of game sales) and hasn't been advertised to all forum members.

Also, not all of the visitors to this thread have voted.

 

[Brimstone]

A better crime and punishment system ( which I was hoping would come with 2.1 but I guess not) is more important to me than PVE vs PVP, because I believe that it will potentially alleviate most of the issues people see between PVE and PVP, and hopefully start to bridge the gap between the two groups.

 

[Martian Successor]

In a multiplayer game there is only one choice: PVP.

Or Co-op.

 

[Ozric]

Another poll that's missing the third option of Neither

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Not 90% of the population - 90% of those who chose to vote on a poll (open to all forum members, not just owners of the game) on the official forums (that have a rather small membership in comparison to the number of game sales) and hasn't been advertised to all forum members.

Also, not all of the visitors to this thread have voted.

This is all very true..... and to use a legal analogy, I would say this poll would certainly not be legally binding.... but I would say is interesting enough to be legally persuasive. (note i am using an analogy, nothing posted by ED fans is legally binding on this forum!)

 

[Martian Successor]

Not when some of those people run away to solo. That dang mode is the plague of this game imho. Same goes for private servers. That's a terrible idea and does nothing other than splinter the community.

No room for the individualists eh Karl Marx? We all gotta be clumped together with each other. Them's Communist words!

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Not when some of those people run away to solo. That dang mode is the plague of this game imho. Same goes for private servers. That's a terrible idea and does nothing other than splinter the community.

or it is the saviour of the game.... same coin.. different side, tho i think there is a better thread for that debate.

 

[Arubeto]

Not really true if this "data" should then be used for making a decision on what to focus on. Or be used to support some later argument on this forum: "Hey! Look what this poll showed!"

Only asking about the two extremes on a scale paints a rather skewed picture. A picture that in this case gives a 9:1 ratio in favor for PvE.

What if there was a "both" option and it turned out 90% voted for that with only 9% towards "PvE" and 1% towards PvP? Not saying this would be the actual numbers though. Just brining up the problem of phrasing a poll like this...or using statistics in general for that matter.

You are of course absolutely right, Tinman. By omitting the "both" option, the results are skewed. And I wouldn't think the results of this limited poll by themselves should be used as a base to judge exactly how much development time should be distributed among new features for PvE and PvP. I think the result shows for which of these two "axiomatic" playstyles - PvE and PvP - more people think it has a higher priority - just not by what margin (the people who would vote "both" wouldn't affect the direct relationship between just PvP and PvE voters)

 

[Martian Successor]

Earl Grey, and indeed it turned out exactly as suspected, mudslinging and aggression.

Which is interesting if we assume the majority are PvE centric on here yet forum PvP is quite prevalent

 

[JonnyC0mbat]

I don't know, I think Karl may have a point there. I never used to agree with that viewpoint, but after a long time playing ED I'm starting to agree. I have about 10-15 people on my friends list, none of them play in open any more. All of them are now in Solo, bar 2 who are in a private group.

I actually left my home system which used to be buzzing with activity, which has now become a ghost town.

 

[Varrag]

I think the question was quite clear: which playstyle do we prefer. Surely you can't be undecided on that?

I, for example, picked PvE. This doesn't mean that I don't do PvP, but in this kind of poll that's irrelevant. Because, well... I do prefer PvE, that's all.