This is so true, it is tricy to make these kind of systems, as what might be obvious to you me to be griefing behviour is quite alot trickier to code. and if we need to rely on on human watching replay of encounters, then that costs money to staff these people, and that it could take days for FDEv to act on these reports.
Maybe most groups don't get what they want.. Some PvE players would like to have a cooperative mode to do things together without being attacked, some PvP players would want everyone in open so they have the maximum of targets, other PvP players would want consentive PvP fighting. Maybe the only ones that get what they want are the solo players..
You already get a bounty if you shoot down anyone who is flying crimes on, and in theory it's collectable by anyone. In practice it's not gonna be collected though, unless the wanted PvPer is dead drunk and/or deliberately allows you to collect it. This (ironically) is because fdev gave potential gankees extremely powerful tools to survive and generally made it ridiculously easy to escape.
It's a common trope, but look carefully: no-one is "crying" here. The last few pages have actually been quite reasoned discussion of alternatives and their possible undesired effects. It's all academic because FD will do whatever they choose, or nothing, but I think we all know that. The "crying" is just a thing dreamed up by people who wish it was true.You already get a bounty if you shoot down anyone who is flying crimes on, and in theory it's collectable by anyone. In practice it's not gonna be collected though, unless the wanted PvPer is dead drunk and/or deliberately allows you to collect it. This (ironically) is because fdev gave potential gankees extremely powerful tools to survive and generally made it ridiculously easy to escape.
As a matter of fact, it's pretty funny that after all these years there still are people who apparently cannot use these tools and feel the need of crying for an invulnerability mode on the forums, while the Pilots' Federation could just decide to take the more cost-efficient route and revoke the membership of anyone after the 3rd insurance claim.
Indeed - the free choice of game mode is a very powerful tool - as is the block feature. Regarding escaping, it depends on outfit.
Some players got bored of the ganker mini-game before the game even launched - and have no inclination to waste their game time playing among them as, because gankers offer their targets no fun (unless their targets are fellow PvPers), they're not worth the effort.As a matter of fact, it's pretty funny that after all these years there still are people who apparently cannot use these tools and feel the need of crying for an invulnerability mode on the forums, while the Pilots' Federation could just decide to take the more cost-efficient route and revoke the membership of anyone after the 3rd insurance claim.
What and actually have to exercise some trigger discipline?How about seal clubbers losing their PF membership and insurance after the second claim?
Well there are tools. Yes. Those same tools though make your ship basically not very good in anything but gank surviving. When I'm doing say exploration I want ship that can with minimum of engineering grind jump as far as possible, and be capable of working months in deep black. I do not want bloated heavy shields and boosters encumbering said ship. Basically due to ganker minigame every other player except ganker needs to downgrade their ship's abilities.You already get a bounty if you shoot down anyone who is flying crimes on, and in theory it's collectable by anyone. In practice it's not gonna be collected though, unless the wanted PvPer is dead drunk and/or deliberately allows you to collect it. This (ironically) is because fdev gave potential gankees extremely powerful tools to survive and generally made it ridiculously easy to escape.
As a matter of fact, it's pretty funny that after all these years there still are people who apparently cannot use these tools and feel the need of crying for an invulnerability mode on the forums, while the Pilots' Federation could just decide to take the more cost-efficient route and revoke the membership of anyone after the 3rd insurance claim.
One problem with the toggle option is the accessibility and frequency in which players can turn the toggle on/off. The next would be the in-game accessibility mechanic e.g. Ship menu or a Boolean toggle under Control Settings. Lastly, how many scenarios come into effect when players begin switching the toggle on/off freely outside being docked; and even then, being docked to control the frequency would have an availability problem outside the bubble. The difficulty of the toggle may not be worth the actual implementation effort, and should a toggle become implemented then the player majority may simply turn the toggle off and forget about it. This would effectively achieve 99.9% PVP free open world gameplay. Also. A timer on the toggle would encourage the majority player to toggle the PVP mode to off without second thought; but only the few would engage in the on/off status of the toggle.
The items you list are merely fig leaves;
Squadrons don't "own" Minor Factions - and multiple Squadrons can affiliate with the same Minor Faction.
Basically it reduces to the point where doing anything in Open is essentially shooting oneself voluntarily to leg. Wanna mine? Yes you can mine in open, just gimp your ship so that it is way poorer as miner than same ship in solo. Wanna trade in Open again same thing. Explore, same thing, about only thing NOT affected is combat, though good pve combat ship is not always good pvp combat ship.What are you exploring in the Bubble in a jump range minmaxed paperplane, especially in Deciat or Shin, pray tell?
That's not true, combat is affected pretty much the same way. For example, it's possible to build an absolutely minmaxed shieldtank combat ship full of GSRPs and enjoy your 10k+ MJ shield - until you happen to get shot at by phasing weapons or reverb cascade.
NPC's are what they are because quite many players do not want your rando npc pirate hobo being more challenging. You can probably find even on these forums calls to nerf down even current ones. I understand that somebodies want this game to be thrilling on edge combat shooter, but it clashes directly with types who want play "Eurotruck Simulator - Space", game. Current approach is compromise.
I am just learning about the BGS, so please forgive me here. From what I've seen in-game, squadrons have the ability to control/govern ownership of stations, or however that all works to tag their name to it. Navel blockades was inspiration for mentioning the idea. I am no actual expert on BGS/PP but on the subject to PVP, the concept would be an interesting twist for PVP oriented squadrons to "blockade" a system. Again. It was a shared concept.
Affiliating a Squadron with a Faction doesn't give the Squadron any such abilities. All players affect the BGS and can affect the influence of Factions in a system, which may result in station ownership changing from one Faction to another - that does not require any player to be a member of a Squadron.
Blockades don't work, in this game, because players can travel in any game mode. Players can role-play blockades if they wish, of course.
