They got at least one CMDR on that list that is usually known for empire building, and not for ganking
To Solo Play Players: If You Could Disable PVP, Would You Play in Open Play Mode Instead?
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Sorry, but to travel to Sag.A before the gankery shows some commitment. I don't think it's an activity you could end up in by accident.They got at least one CMDR on that list that is usually known for empire building, and not for ganking
It was, believe me. We had much fun about this on the discord when we fought Explorer's Nation.
And that "empire" must be huge...
Like billions of star systems huge.
Can't say anything about it because naming and shaming, sry.
where did I say that?
Just the top few?
Nope, that was a signed confession, so all of them should be included.
It messes with their instancing? Good.
Serves them right. I consider it a reverse griefing.
I am still on a more or less neutral side here although I have not a single bit of understanding for Gankers.
Yes, if you have a decent shipbuild and know what to do it's fun to play in open and interact with gankers. I decide the terms of action. I can always high-wake. Didn't lost one ship since I finished my g5 eng grind. I can try to fight and even when I see that I am likely going to loose, there is plenty of time to leave the engagement. Of course that cost me a huge amount of time to get here.
I have persuaded my wife to try out ED, so that we can play together. She is in open because I fly in open. She basically knows how to fly, ship is not engineered and she still uses docking computer. And she has only very limited time for the game, so that it will take very long until she is halfway good at this game.
Last week she was ganked in Deciat... Yes I told her she should go there in solo but she forget or whatever. Point is, she was really upset and had no clue why or what happened there. I tried to explain and it cost me all my power of persuasion that she did not quit the game at all.
Call it suffering or whatever you want... She was negativ affected by this. I now try to lead her emotions towards the revenge approach. But it will take time until she is ready for retaliation. An unbelievable amount of time.
Yes, if you have a decent shipbuild and know what to do it's fun to play in open and interact with gankers. I decide the terms of action. I can always high-wake. Didn't lost one ship since I finished my g5 eng grind. I can try to fight and even when I see that I am likely going to loose, there is plenty of time to leave the engagement. Of course that cost me a huge amount of time to get here.
I have persuaded my wife to try out ED, so that we can play together. She is in open because I fly in open. She basically knows how to fly, ship is not engineered and she still uses docking computer. And she has only very limited time for the game, so that it will take very long until she is halfway good at this game.
Last week she was ganked in Deciat... Yes I told her she should go there in solo but she forget or whatever. Point is, she was really upset and had no clue why or what happened there. I tried to explain and it cost me all my power of persuasion that she did not quit the game at all.
Call it suffering or whatever you want... She was negativ affected by this. I now try to lead her emotions towards the revenge approach. But it will take time until she is ready for retaliation. An unbelievable amount of time.
Robert Maynard
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Indeed. It's also worth noting that there are those who aren't inclined to reward the gankers with PvP opposition in retaliation.
Exactly. If it were not for me and my intervention she would have quit the game at all.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Even though there's no need to play among them to play the game?Wait untill she's obliterated by the station guns for "loitering"
She played only open because I play that way. We did some wing trade missions together, the easy stuff so she could get used to the game. Perhaps she choose Open Button because she always had done it before. We had some interactions, friendly encounters with other squadron members. There was no hint that a "gank" could happen in her previous play sessions even that I told her that there are unpleasant players in ED. She could not imagine someone to be that nasty to kill her without any reason (what a naive character you could think
). Point is that it troubled her almost half a day. No comparison to real tragedy of course... But in game actions have influence on real emotions. And I am sure she is not someone special (for me of course she is 
) in comparison to the in-general player.YesWait untill she's obliterated by the station guns for "loitering"
But first I have to get her rid of the docking computer. She insists to keep that. Her game time is very limited and she don't want to sacrifice time to learn things like manual docking or evasive drill.That's what it is there for, also it allows for spectacular views while docking or leaving,
rather than staring at the controls...many casual players prefer it I think
rather than staring at the controls...many casual players prefer it I think
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A "tax" is something you can't avoid (unless you're a tax evader
).PvP is barely classificable as a "risk of some financial loss" (due to a rebuy, cargo, data, etc.).
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Employing a competent accountant can avoid paying tax - which is legal, unlike tax evasion which is illegal. Same with the game modes - avoiding PvP is "legal" by selecting the correct game mode.A "tax" is something you can't avoid (unless you're a tax evader
While the likelihood of occurrence may be low, the likelihood of loss when engaged by another player is significant (when a player who isn't a PvPer is flying a ship not outfitted for combat).
So, let me get this straight......
Pre-emptive combat log kos lists that consisted of not only loggers but folk with connection issues and many people the then 'PVP' crowd had taken issue with on the forums, or Reddit or similar are fine but pre made block lists are not.
Space pixels are pretend when a non PVP'er owns them and their loss can never be mentioned without ridicule but space pixels are not pretend when someone combat logs/legitimately exits the game - then it's a disgusting crime against humanity right?
Many PVE'ers take their pixels waaay too seriously apparently......this coming from members of a community that got so butthurt a few years back they involved the gaming media in their.........'crusade'.
Solo is cheating, PG's are cheating, PVE'ers are cowards, scared...again from elements of a group that was rinsing the 5:1 engineering exploit a while back and then getting caught lying about it to boot as well as a good number being all over any money exploit you can mention.
I hate hypocrites.
Pre-emptive combat log kos lists that consisted of not only loggers but folk with connection issues and many people the then 'PVP' crowd had taken issue with on the forums, or Reddit or similar are fine but pre made block lists are not.
Space pixels are pretend when a non PVP'er owns them and their loss can never be mentioned without ridicule but space pixels are not pretend when someone combat logs/legitimately exits the game - then it's a disgusting crime against humanity right?
Many PVE'ers take their pixels waaay too seriously apparently......this coming from members of a community that got so butthurt a few years back they involved the gaming media in their.........'crusade'.
Solo is cheating, PG's are cheating, PVE'ers are cowards, scared...again from elements of a group that was rinsing the 5:1 engineering exploit a while back and then getting caught lying about it to boot as well as a good number being all over any money exploit you can mention.
I hate hypocrites.
A bit hyperbole, but essentially yes.
Hypocrites exist on all sides of this "conflict" and it would be nice if the louder proponents of each side would calm down a bit.
By the way, the biggest group of griefers wasn't mentioned. Space pixel death to all pad blockers !!!!!
Difference is one of the sides isn't reliant on the other, (to some degree), to make gameplay for them.