Told you so.
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If these hollow planets were akin to those in Starglider 2 that would be really cool! 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq1ipxOinSs
Either flying through the planets crust or driving around in a vehicle as part of a mission could be amazing fun!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq1ipxOinSs
Either flying through the planets crust or driving around in a vehicle as part of a mission could be amazing fun!
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To get planet scale is not really possible in detail. You would need to fly down to the planet surface, as in the video posted. To the point of clipping through the surface, then look around at the horizon to see why this 'planet' Tilian I think it was called, is not the size you seem to think it is, or indeed that FD have told you it is. But for those that don't understand that, I can't help.
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Not sure if he's talking about collisions (and by "hollow" he means collisions are off and you can fly through) or literally being hollow.. in polygonal 3d everything is hollow
Oh Yes, but we knew that;...It's so much more fun to be a fanboy.
Absolutely untrue. It's impossible or difficult in some engines, not all. As for surface detailing, it's non viable to do all of them by hand, but that's where procedural generation comes into play. Also, not sure what you mean by clipping through a planet - why would you do that? And how, if collisions were on? What does it even have to do with everything? I'm trying to understand your points and I do 3d for a living, and for the life of me I don't even understand what you're talking about - and I'm trying, but.. sorry, no dice
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Absolutely untrue. It's impossible or difficult in some engines, not all. Also, not sure what you mean by clipping through a planet - why would you do that? And how, if collisions were on? What does it even have to do with everything? I'm trying to understand your points and I do 3d for a living, and for the life of me I don't even understand what you're talking about - and I'm trying, but.. sorry, no dice
Yes I understand where I am being a little misleading. He collides with the planet, its another one I'm working on whereas I am clipping through the planet surface so collision must indeed be off in mine and on in ED. But that isn't the point, I don't care if they're hollow, there is no real mining so why not have them that way. Its scale I'm trying to get too. So at the point of 'collision' then, look around at the horizon, do you believe that is a full size planet ?
Space Engine and Outerra would disagree.
OH SWEET JESUS you're right! What was I thinking?! Oh Lord I'm an idiot, now I'm uninstalling Elite forever. Thank you for showing me the light!
I'd be curious to know how FD are going to handle the speeds for travelling about the planet surface.
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Assuming the 500m/s limit stays which I guess it would have to given planet surfaces will be multi player networked, travelling around the planet will be slow (taking about a day to circumnavigate an earth sized planet).
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Will there be a supercruise type mode for travelling from orbit and around the planet?
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Maybe you drop from SC into this new mode. You can then travel from orbit (where you leave the suckers who haven't updated to horizons) to the surface where various PoI (bases, cites, fortresses, mine etc.) can be seen and scanned. From there you can drop out into the planetary equivalent of normal space.
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Assuming the 500m/s limit stays which I guess it would have to given planet surfaces will be multi player networked, travelling around the planet will be slow (taking about a day to circumnavigate an earth sized planet).
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Will there be a supercruise type mode for travelling from orbit and around the planet?
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Maybe you drop from SC into this new mode. You can then travel from orbit (where you leave the suckers who haven't updated to horizons) to the surface where various PoI (bases, cites, fortresses, mine etc.) can be seen and scanned. From there you can drop out into the planetary equivalent of normal space.
Yes exactly, they have scale at the surface, I have both engines, they're very good. Its something that in the video isn't present, although obviously its a smooth empty surface. The horizon to me, has too much curvature for it to be anything other than 25-30km diameter. Just my view.
There, this is what you get when you allow freedom of speech... Now this board has stupid all over it
True.... sometimes I do wonder if the principle of freedom of speech for all should be morphed to freedom of speech for people that have demonstrated basic comprehension and research skills.
I'll address the hollow thing first. Unless you're working with voxels, but rather with polygons, like 99.99% of today's games, everything is hollow. This is because each surface is comprised of polygons, ranging from a few to tens of thousands, even millions; these are one sided surfaces defined by 3 vertexes each (possible to work with more but engines just subdivide them into 3 vertex polys). One sided surfaces means that they are only visible from one side; if you found yourself inside an ED planet, you'd see stars right through it. In short, every 3d model in every game is hollow. It's how our current 3d technology works. It doesn't really matter as an average player will never notice, for as long as collisions are on and you don't clip through anything.
I can't really answer your second question without having been on a surface of an ED planet yet. What I will say is that from space, they do indeed look correctly sized to me.
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Well, the thing with that video is that nobody was supposed to do that then, which is why they stopped people being able to do it. There's no way of telling what altitude the guy was flying at or at what point the clipping occurred at, or even if it was clipping at all. It could just as easily been the LOD code dropping out at an unimplemented range. But we don't know, all we know is what that guy was videoing wasn't even placeholder code for planetary landings.
But maybe I'm wrong and maybe you're right. The only proof will be when the beta arrives, but there's no technical reason why these planets can't be 1:1 scale.
Launch the game and fly to sol. Drop out of SC and try to orbit earth at 300 m/s. Measure time and calculate the distance you travelled.
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