When typing, its useful to consider: would I say this to their face, in a room full of people. That's what it feels like on the receiving end.
The bravery of being out of range....
Toxic community. Why so?
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When typing, its useful to consider: would I say this to their face, in a room full of people. That's what it feels like on the receiving end.
The bravery of being out of range....
Anybody thinking this forum is toxic should spend an hour reading The Division reddit.
OP, nobody can control what people put out there.
Some people like to troll and try to bait arguments. Some people fancy themselves as brilliant game designers. Some are just negative by nature and some are really passionate about their personal experiences and take offense at anything that encroaches on "their" game.
It's all games. It's all topics and hobbies. It's the Internet.
Now what you CAN control is what you put out.
If you feel something it toxic, don't reply, don't create the bump. Move on, don't take click bait. It's the most powerful tool you have. But I'll admit, sometimes it's difficult not to hit reply.
In the other side. Choose your discussions. Join good conversations that you find interesting and proactive and will help others and the game. Make these threads float to the top.
Good luck!
Some people like to troll and try to bait arguments. Some people fancy themselves as brilliant game designers. Some are just negative by nature and some are really passionate about their personal experiences and take offense at anything that encroaches on "their" game.
It's all games. It's all topics and hobbies. It's the Internet.
Now what you CAN control is what you put out.
If you feel something it toxic, don't reply, don't create the bump. Move on, don't take click bait. It's the most powerful tool you have. But I'll admit, sometimes it's difficult not to hit reply.
In the other side. Choose your discussions. Join good conversations that you find interesting and proactive and will help others and the game. Make these threads float to the top.
Good luck!
It was. Incredibly tough, fast maneuverability, and it could chug down SCB's like healing potions (to use the old forum meme) whilst packing serious firepower. It was a bit of a beast.
Think of a Python handling like a Vulture on steroids with zero fitting issues.
Nobody should to go reddit. Ever. I call this place an echo chamber on occasion but Reddit would be it's ugly brood mother in comparison.
Let us never speak of that place again.
That's a lot of words to say nothing of any substance. I see you must have a degree.
It's all Frontiers fault because they removed offline mode. Or the Python nerf, can't remember.
They took away the I win button?!?!?!
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I am of the opinion that I concur with your opinion, and lay the blame in three places:
1. I blame those who have been elected to public office, or appointed to positions. I will clarify this shortly.
2. I blame the self-acclaimed and so-called "experts" who offer the opinions to #1 above. This too I will clarify shortly.
3. I blame the parents.
And the clarification of all this: It has been pushed into the realm of unpopular and/or criminal to beat the @sses of our children when they misbehave. Politicians and public officials have gone to great lengths, mislead by the opinions of those called "experts" who tell them that an -whooping is somehow bad for children. Public opinion has been shaped to follow, and now unbeaten generations are raising new unbeaten generations. And both of them so direly need laid across someone's lap and whipped until the stupid falls out.
And that pretty much sums up 96% of all our social problems at once. Why are kids such whiny little b!tches? Because mommy and/or daddy (or mommy and mommy, or daddy and daddy, or whatever) failed in their duty as parents to beat the stupid out of their children because those who raised them failed to beat the stupid out of them.
Now bring on the hate, and tell me what a terrible person I am and twist my words to suit your ends and claim I'm endorsing child abuse - because I'm not, and I'll call you out on the spot for doing it.
There is a HUGE different between corporal punishment and abuse. There is, and I don't care if you believe otherwise, you're wrong. You will always be wrong, and there's nothing you can do to convince me otherwise, so don't bother trying.
It is simple human nature that we are selfish, self-serving, evil, antisocial psychopaths. It is the job of every single parent to ensure we do not remain that way.
As infants, we cry to get what we want. We learn it works.
As we get older, we'll try that old trick again.
When it fails, we learn new ways to get what we want.
Sometimes those efforts warrant a paddling, and when done correctly we learn not to do that thing again.
When someone gives in, we keep doing it, because it worked.
Never give in. Beat @ss, Make the World a Better Place.
I'm not conceding that there is a toxicity problem in these forums, but if there were one, I think the themes in your post would be indicative of it.
Not only did you build up a ridiculous straw man argument (these dang kids these days!), you went on to advocate banning half of the active player base. Good luck with that.
I'll get off your lawn and stop riding my goddanged skateboard on the sidewalk, grampa. Don't worry about frontier banning me, I'm on a break. Not by choice mind you (it's driving me crazy I'm leaving easily achievable goals unfinished), I love the game to death and am loathe to criticize, but after 5 weeks game time my imagination or will power (or whatever it is kids these days lack or don't appreciate) has run completely dry fighting the abundant tedium rampant throughout the game.
If I were a more inflammatory poster, I'd point out that your failing hand eye coordination and mental elasticity is keeping Elite dangerous perpetually stuck at 1 or 2 key presses every 30 seconds as "gameplay" lest you'd have trouble keeping up. Banning the half you consider yourself on might get us an actual video game instead of a self satisfaction simulator. I'm not a jerk and I don't actual believe that, but you can see how irritating that is? Agism goes both ways and it's just as obnoxious and stifling no matter which side uses it.
For the record, I was born 2 years after the original elite was released and didn't have a personal computer until 1996. I spent my whole childhood outside playing sports and using my imagination. I can do it again for free.
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This isn't a toxic community at all trust me, if you look at the vast bulk of the posts, look across the sub-forums (Ships, Outfitting, Community Goal, Horizons, Engineers, Powerplay, Wings etc etc) most people are kind, helpful and have a sense of humour.
On the Reddit 99% of people again are good people.
Elite honestly has one of the best communities I've ever been part of in a game.
Granted we're in the honeymoon of Elite, where it's long enough after initial release to be have a fleshed out game, but not so far away that we're all tired of it but still playing.
Absolutely right, look at the recent CG at Walters Dock, nothing but heartfelt support.
Anyway, not all disagreement is toxic
As others have mentioned, this is a side effect of a game being popular, you'll see similar in most other popular games as well.
It is an unfortunate side effect.
and why many many many many people I know avoid the official forums of most games, its like this most places.But as also pointed out, ALL the community is hardly toxic, however the toxic part can definitely be most easily noticed.
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I can see how it would look that way, and I'm sorry for giving the impression that I wasn't interested in the results of a thread I started.
I'm not a consistent visitor to many forums, including this one. As a result, I'm accustomed to response to my posts being on the sluggish side, so I check in every so often, and binge. I was surprised, today to see so much response and discussion.
This discussion, in particular. I don't have any particularly solid reason to debate the answers to a question I myself asked. So far, I've found it generally fascinating.
Coming from a stand-point of ignorance, I don't feel like I have much to contribute, except, to say that I agree that "toxic" misses the mark, and is definitely too strong a term for most of what I was asking about.
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There is another and equally blameworthy "side" of the toxicity coin, you know. Petty sensitivity. If the easily triggered are catered to in a forum, the forum will go downhill very quickly as everyone gets in the habit of trying to report everyone else for nothing. Some game the system this way. I have encountered a few of these. And precious little can annoy the hell out of a player than seeing a moderator side with the deliberately auto-triggered. The moderation itself becomes a cause of toxicity.
For my own part, I rarely seek moderation, unless I am being attacked via mod. If someone advocates suicide. I might go to a mod.
From what I see, the toxicity of these forum, what there is, is more a calculated snideness. You haven't seen truly hostile/vitriolic forum posts here like exist in other game forum groups.
For my own part, I rarely seek moderation, unless I am being attacked via mod. If someone advocates suicide. I might go to a mod.
From what I see, the toxicity of these forum, what there is, is more a calculated snideness. You haven't seen truly hostile/vitriolic forum posts here like exist in other game forum groups.
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This forum is full of puşsycats compared to some of the game forums I've seen. The last game I played, the lunatics not only took over the asylum, they burned it to the ground and rebuilt it out of turnips and wobbly jelly.
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