Looks like I found the right thread, because trading I tried for the first time today and confused the heck out of me! Now I see why! I also was going from export to import system only to find it was the opposite. Took a nice high-risk slave transport instead. Though even slaves I can't buy anywhere! They want me to buy 2 slaves in the mission, but nobody got's dem hard workers!
Trading and the background simulation Issues [ Backwards Trading ]
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Apparently even such items like Rebel Transmissions, Prototype Tech and so on can be sold at the black market at medium demand.
Apparently we got AI flying in the space picking up these things and dropping smuggling them into the stations, clever gits, kudos to the programmer.
Apparently we got AI flying in the space picking up these things and dropping smuggling them into the stations, clever gits, kudos to the programmer.
Thx for the heads up.
But could you then introduce a static fix until you are done with it, so we at least can run some profits or have access to some reasonable data?
Since my primary playstyle is trading the game for me right now is simply broken and less enjoyable per day because of this broken market!
FANTASTIC news. THANK YOU, and well done everyone who kept plugging away to raise this issue in a largely constructive and snipe free manner
I'm really looking forward to next week now!
Most likely that will not improve anything even in the slightest until they can get fixes in. The market is already messed up, turning off AI trading will just leave it in the exact same messed up state as there would then be no background sim trading "correctly" and thus no market recovery either.
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Still they could reset it to start of gamma.
Then freeze it like it was the whole beta and keep it frozen until fixed.
Then the market also starts from a reasonable position and does not have to recover first after a potential fix....
But right now it can take as said very long and the situation as trader right now is *piep*.
Then freeze it like it was the whole beta and keep it frozen until fixed.
Then the market also starts from a reasonable position and does not have to recover first after a potential fix....
But right now it can take as said very long and the situation as trader right now is *piep*.
To those saying trading is impossible, I say put a bit more thought and effort into it. I look for what could be a profitable route, then check it out noting high supply items and corresponding high (rare) or medium demand in neighbouring systems. I start with a couple of lower value trips to test and if profitability is confirmed I start stacking the hold. No, I'm not making bucket loads of cash, but I usually get in excess of 500cr / ton without huge difficulty.
I don't think people are saying that trading is impossible, but rather that the tools (and often even common sense) aren't reflective of the in-game reality. The whole point of this thread hasn't been about profitability at all.
Sounds simple to do, yes, but probably even more effort and time then they are using to fix it at current. The reason I say that is that the existence of a RESET MARKET switch anywhere is unlikely. Why? Why would you need one? The design is for a persistent universe and market that simply evolves, no requirement (or desire) for a reset. So, implementing a market reset would have to be analyzed and developed just as the fix is. Much better then in this instance that the resources work on the fix rather than a reset.
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You a very likely to be right on this one.
I also don't necessary expect them to have a reset button. But I expect them to have a backup file that contains all the old (initial) data, which could be simply loaded into the current.
I also read in this post the idea, that for the timeframe of this being fixed rewind the rare changes so we could do these runs for a few days. That would also be fine with me since I can then 'ignore' the wrong market data pretty much. But with the current state of the rares that is also not an option for bigger ships.
Though I actually really liked the way they were before (travel far for good profit taking the risk of long travel etc.). I would have prefered a fix to just increase the distance to be traveled (e.g. 300ly to max profit) but yeah in the current state they are no alternative at all (since no supply).
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To be fair, that doesn't match up with their vision of the game. They want a dynamic economy which players might be able to influence (and non-static trading routes, so that grinding between the same two or three systems isn't the best way to make money). And, in addition, that changing economy is going to be the one that generates different types of missions over time.
This doesn't seem to be the most sophisticated of solutions, but I agree with that they're trying to do. It's just suffering some growing pains right now.
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