You do understand that ship transfers are coming, and they still are an improvement to the status quo, right?
Wouldn't it make more sense to tackle those other nonsensical time sinks in a sensible way instead of grieving over an unbalanced feature?
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You do understand that ship transfers are coming, and they still are an improvement to the status quo, right?
Wouldn't it make more sense to tackle those other nonsensical time sinks in a sensible way instead of grieving over an unbalanced feature?
Yea, this is why I don't want the community voting on every new proposed game feature... and likely why Frontier doesn't want it either.
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I'm strictly instant and am going to tolerate the results. You really need to stop categorizing people into camps. You aren't good at it.
It's not only your dog that's short sighted then huh? *
*no offense intended, just a joke
Yup, I hope we will get more polls like this in the future.
I believe that it was already decided to go with delayed transfer even before this poll started. Only thing that this poll could do was reverse that decision if it was like 80/20 for instant. So was more of an confirmation than community "decision"
Not all people who bought the game still play it. There are around 100,000 people who have played in the last two weeks on steam. Probably another 100,000 not on steam at a guess. So what's that 24% of the player base. Not too bad as it goes.
If you're tolerating the results then you're not a holdout, are you? Do you really expect me to list every single person who has made those same two arguments by name, or are you just being pedantic for its own sake?
For me, ED takes time to play and I like that. If I find myself with a bit of extra time in the morning before work ED is not the game I'll play; I play something on my XBox, maybe Destiny, pick up a few bounties and kill some aliens. If I have a larger chunk of time I might launch ED on the XBox and play there with the controller. If I can devote a few hours in one night I'll pull up my cockpit chair, in my darkened room with my gaming PC and 50" main monitor with 24" side monitor, my HOTAS, pedals, and my TrackerIR and immerse myself in the fantasy that I'm a space pilot. Why would I want to watch Hulu while going to all that trouble to feel like I'm in space? I don't play solitaire in the theater while watching a superhero movie just because there's a part that gets all talky and boring.
This is a good decision, and I'm very happy that the player base as a whole *overwhelmingly* voted for it.
One of the major aspects of ship balance in this game is between jump range and combat strength. Lightly loaded ships travel further and faster than fully stocked combat ready vessels. Instant ship transfers would have ruined that balance by turning a small fast ship into some sort of magical anchor that can be used to instantly transport MUCH slower ships from one place to another.
The delay is a good idea as it turns ship transfers into what it *should* be: setting a new, even if temporary, home point for said ship. Head there quickly, set your transfer, and then either go afk for an hour, or spend time in your smaller ship doing other tasks like running some missions or collecting mats. You *could* get there faster with the actual heavy slow ship if you wanted, but this way, you save yourself some pain and spend more time doing something productive rather than just jumping and scooping over and over.
This also means we won't have to deal with people racing to Jaques with an engineered Asp and then instantly transferring their Corvettes to wreak havoc on core explorers and colonists. Thank g god.
One of the major aspects of ship balance in this game is between jump range and combat strength. Lightly loaded ships travel further and faster than fully stocked combat ready vessels. Instant ship transfers would have ruined that balance by turning a small fast ship into some sort of magical anchor that can be used to instantly transport MUCH slower ships from one place to another.
The delay is a good idea as it turns ship transfers into what it *should* be: setting a new, even if temporary, home point for said ship. Head there quickly, set your transfer, and then either go afk for an hour, or spend time in your smaller ship doing other tasks like running some missions or collecting mats. You *could* get there faster with the actual heavy slow ship if you wanted, but this way, you save yourself some pain and spend more time doing something productive rather than just jumping and scooping over and over.
This also means we won't have to deal with people racing to Jaques with an engineered Asp and then instantly transferring their Corvettes to wreak havoc on core explorers and colonists. Thank g god.
No...they didn't. they are removing one.
xD!!!
How can something be a time sink, when you have a ship you can still play the game with? Nothing has actually changed. <Baffled> (*edit* Unless Frontier really bork the implementation and lock you in one ship till the other arrives.
)And I'm fine with a delay on weapon or cargo loading and unloading taking an amount of time when we get to explore stations, or even when we get ship transfers (use two ships and 'hot swap').
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So does that mean 1857 people tried to vote who didn't have an account?
- 2 years of game balancing destroyed. CHECK
- multipurpose ship meaningless. CHECK
- lore and economy meaningless. CHECK
- galaxy size meaningless. CHECK
*slow clap*
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Not instantly, no. But give it a couple weeks and... boom
And no response for at least the same length of time (if anyone bothers at all). Jaques is going to be, literally, murder for explorers. This isn't a complaint, by the way. I can't wait for the forum explosion when the inevitable happens. Don't underestimate the lengths to which a PVP player will go to get easy kills.
I think it does, someone else mentioned that they had a 2nd account they setup but didn't tie ED to. Anyone can open a Frontier store account, or more than one. You could use it to vote but I'd guess only validated accounts were tallied.
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How can something be a time sink, when you have a ship you can still play the game with? Nothing has actually changed. <Baffled> (*edit* Unless Frontier really bork the implementation and lock you in one ship till the other arrives.
And I'm fine with a delay on weapon or cargo loading and unloading taking an amount of time when we get to explore stations, or even when we get ship transfers (use two ships and 'hot swap').
Because that isn't the ship we want to and it defeats the purpose of the purpose of the transfer. Saving time. 35.6ly = 16 minutes? That's 2 jumps max for any of my ships. 16 minutes?
This is where I officially stop funding this game.
People where getting emails to vote who own only Arena (some of which they got for free). I guess they also count as invalid.
Not instantly, no. But give it a couple weeks and... boom
This isn't a complaint, by the way. I can't wait for the forum explosion when the inevitable happens. Don't underestimate the lengths to which a PVP player will go to get easy kills.
Do really think the griefers want to wait around for a week to do it. No I suspect they will stay in the bubble and carry on there, or spend a lot of time trying to get thier ship there without the AspX Taxi.
Delayed ship transfer is not a time sink
Seems to me some people don't get what a time sink is. A time sink in a game is a mechanic where you have to sink time into it.
A grind for credits or reputation.
Farming a dungeon for specific loot.
Being forced to repeat the same activity over and over to finally - mostly depending on luck - you might by chance achieve your goal.
Delayed ship transport is none of this. You look up the specific option in the station menu, click it, and are freed of any further time investment or responsibility for the transport. You can log off, you can keep playing, you can simply sit on your butt doing nothing, if you prefer to. Basically you are totally free to do whatever you want and are not obligated to spend another second on the ship delivery.
You know what a time sink is instead? Having to spend ours flying around the galaxy doing all the fetching yourself.
Seems to me some people don't get what a time sink is. A time sink in a game is a mechanic where you have to sink time into it.
A grind for credits or reputation.
Farming a dungeon for specific loot.
Being forced to repeat the same activity over and over to finally - mostly depending on luck - you might by chance achieve your goal.
Delayed ship transport is none of this. You look up the specific option in the station menu, click it, and are freed of any further time investment or responsibility for the transport. You can log off, you can keep playing, you can simply sit on your butt doing nothing, if you prefer to. Basically you are totally free to do whatever you want and are not obligated to spend another second on the ship delivery.
You know what a time sink is instead? Having to spend ours flying around the galaxy doing all the fetching yourself.
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