It's posts like this that keep me coming back to this forum.
Travel Needs to be Fun and Engaging
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It's posts like this that keep me coming back to this forum.
Yet people spend hundreds, if not thousands, of hours playing in spite of that.
If Elite isn't for you, it's time to find something that is. Don't try changing a game over a million people have bought and enjoy because you have a short attention span. That's the basis of the game. Space is big, deal with it.
Sterling MH
Banned
There's definitely options to change how you plot in the galaxy map. But maybe just as simple as moving points about and the routes "rubber banding" around the moved points as per preference, so you can include a sidetrip jaunt to an accreting binary or Doradus S variable (does Elite model short-period variable stars?) would help break up long trips.
But a lot of "Boooriiiinnggg" complaints are from people who are starting from A and being cheesed off they have to go through the rest of the alphabet to get to Z and bored because they've decided to do nothing at any of the intervening stops.
Just go to B and stop isn't enough for them. They want A then Z. No options.
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Well, there are some mods (I've seen, may have been mockups) showing in-game video. But how about an in-cockpit streamcast radio to fiddle about with? Plonk it to the left with the in-system comms and a little textual UI.
Its not travel time, its travel fun.
The problem with travel in this game is that its uninvolved, point straight and wait and press 1 button to jump and voila.
It has the least involvement and "piloting" mechanics. I don't see how it could be a good gameplay element.
For me the time of travel should take even more time BUT with for example a mechanic were I can pilot my ship through the systems while in hyperspace. That would give me control, gameplay, and continuity.
I'm so fed up of 1 button gameplay.
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Thats how Star Citizen will be.
A travel mechanic with wormholes would be nice.
Sterling MH
Banned
That's immersion. The 3 second wait for your landing gear to deploy? Pointless wait walling.
Seeing the animation of the hardpoint unloading and loading up with the new shiny? WAIT WALLING!
Every single game that has time between starting it and finishing: I See Wait Walling, Wait Walling EVERYWHERE!
All this depends if all you do is Jump, then jump, then jump, then jump and do nothing in-between these jumps. If you want to make the Hyperjump interactive, it will have to be longer then the 10-15 seconds it currently is. So if I am exploring a certain area, jumping from place to place after scanning the systems, it could take me up lets say three times as long to fully explore that area. Also it would get boring very quickly.
No thanks. That to me is just a recipe for disaster. It would destroy the game for me.
I agree that there could be more stuff to do during SC. I would be happy with local galnet to see whats going on in the system and if there is anything I can do/exploit with the factions. Local Galnet is a very underused feature which could be used very well to bring a bit more life to the systems.
Increase by how much?
There will always be wasted time in Open World games, it's just more noticeable in ED due to it's size. I am not against adding more engaging content during these so called wasted times.
You don't. Hyperspace is part of the core gameplay, it's how humanity gets around, it's how you as a pilot get around. Also, it's needed to load/unload assets. Consider it "limbo" where the client can unload and load assets safely and with minimal impact on system performance.
Uses up additional resources, you're loading assets and data into memory that aren't being used whilst other assets and data already exist.
Resulting in stutter/lag during unload/load, painfully visible. The hyperspace animation nicely hides it ( it was SO bad at one point ).
Possible, but trying to background load whilst ensuring active, engaging gameplay will make it take much longer.
My thought here? NOS for Fusion drives. Accelerates the ship whilst in supercruise to incredible speeds, allowing ships to traverse greater distances in half the time. Requires a refuel, players can use fuel tanks for longer durations. Is not cheap to refuel. Only certain system types sell it.
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Travel is already trivial, you just need to press 1 button and wait. Travel is also boring.
Sterling MH
Banned
Travel is never fun if you don't find traveling fun.
SC will have 1000 systems, all scripted, but once you've triggered the script, it will be pointless going there again. And there's no point exploring. There's only 1000 systems, and that will be gone in a month by others pushing the explore gameplay.
Heck, even though it's less than 1% discovered, that would still be up to 4 billion star systems explored in two years. How long would 1000 have lasted???
They're both very different games.
SC is a single player who happens to fly a spaceship frequently. And everything YOU do is important, it's ALL about YOU!
E|D is a single playership flying in space with you as the pilot. Everything you do has an effect, but you're a tiny speck in this universe.
X1-3 is a single company executive starting by his own bootstraps who does most of his empire building from the cockpit of a spaceship. The universe is small, and you will become a big player in it, but some things will never change.
The focus of the game and its role for you in it are very different. If you want to feel unrealistically important, SC. If you want to feel important in a small pond, pick X, if you want to feel like you're living in a galactic society, a mote in a mountain of sand, play E|D.
And as long as they are distinctly different in play, all three have a vital and useful entertainment role in PC gaming.
If they start trying to be one of the others to bend to "consumer reports" sourced from marketing feedback and entitlement cries on fora, then you get XRebirth.
Jumping is pressing 1 button nothing more.
Lestat
Banned
Well go to a different game that also has a empty grind. Or you can try your hand at Pong or Pac man that is 3 Life 10 Minutes. The only thing there is the challenge.
Ya what I wish they do something like pre load your destination so it save a little time.
Do shorter missions. Problem solved.
Well maybe change to a different mission type or try something different like Mining or exploration.
Well a idea for you. Instead of complaining about long distance missions ls. LEARN TO USE galaxy map then the mission will be shorter for you. LEARN to drop mission if they redirect you to a system that become too far. It like when you look at a Planet and find your thrusters are too weak for landing drop the mission.
Well don't do the annoying puzzle and your problem would be solved.
I think it comes down to you need to find the right game for you or right part of a game. Instead of trying to force the Devs to dumb down a current game that great for tons of players.
how many buttons should it be?
SO what. It will be the same in Star Citizen. During quantum jump I have never been able to steer the ships. It just jumps. That is also a loading screen.
People come up with ideas, but they are just no good ones yet. Some will make the jump 2-3 times as long which would be worse.
The Hyperspace jump is necessary to load up the next system. What would be your idea to make it more engaging, as to be honest I can't think of anything that I could do in the 10-15 seconds we have got, unless you make it longer, which is what some are complaining about.
There you have, the amazing exploration mechanic.
That's not exploring - that's just trying to get from A-B in the fastest time possible.
I agree, that is not exploring. But the exploration mechanics do need expanding upon.
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You are, largely, looking for a different game. Give the X1-3 games a spin, they're fun. A tad dated, true, and not multi player, but they're fun.