Tritium that was stolen, cannot be donated into a fleet carrier.

[CMDR Nathan Atterlein]

Thanks for everyone who took the time to confirm!

 

[Bigmaec]

It gets even worst. You can't just store mission cargo on your carrier. You need to sell it to the black market or abandon the mission before. If you sell it to the black market and let the mission expire or abandoned it the liberated goods suddenly have mission and stolen tags. Now you can't transfer or sell it anymore at all. If I have a piracy carrier with the fenced market I should be able to do what I want with the stuff I find and that includes putting Tritium into the fuel tank.

No approved gameplay. Go back mining citizen.

 

[Ca$hback]

Wow, another reason not to bother with fleet carriers. Very montessori. Discover your desks, children.

 

[Augusta]

Sorry inspector, the tritium has been injected. Can you guess which portion is stolen, or if it was stolen at all?

 

[Factabulous]

You can use stolen limpets the same as non-stolen - same should apply to Tritium

 

[Drelthar]

Dumb.

 

[Jmanis]

Tut tut Op... don't you know? Stealing Tritium is clearly griefing those who obtained their Tritium the legit way, through hard work mining or buying it off the market. FOR SHAME!

(Totally agree, but it's been a long time since this game gave any meaningful purpose to "bad guy" activities. Elite: Best Friends at it's finest)

 

[CMDR Nathan Atterlein]

Tut tut Op... don't you know? Stealing Tritium is clearly griefing those who obtained their Tritium the legit way, through hard work mining or buying it off the market. FOR SHAME!

(Totally agree, but it's been a long time since this game gave any meaningful purpose to "bad guy" activities. Elite: Best Friends at it's finest)

Like I said before, I'm horrible at it. The only times I enter an instance where piracy is about to happen, is when I mistakingly think my wingmates got pulled in SC, and one shot the miner "aggressor", saying "you're welcome!".

My communist colleagues however are doing wonders when it comes to piracy. And they are a joy to be pirated by, no joke.
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[MarkyH]

One thing that probably influenced fdev, to make stolen tritium not donatable, was that hauling missions might make you deliver tritium from a to b. (haven't tested yet). I just wanna smother that argument before it's even born:

Do not make tritium hauling missions, then, and allow us to donate stolen variants of it. Haulers should not give a damn about what they're hauling. So why bother with tritium, if it opens the game up for an exploit (abandon mission and deliver tritium to carrier instead)?

Where have you Pirate ies been all week? I have hauled 2 full 23000t loads of Tritium since 10th June for 2.9b in profit, 100% in open. Not even seen 1 Pirate CMDR, or any true Griefers either. NPC Pirates are more hard working (but less effective) than you guys. And it cant be frequency, each load requires 62 trips to the station to buy and sell, so my 2 loads took me 248 round trips, 20+hrs, in open.

I always thought you lot were lazy opertunistic scumbags.

 

[Northpin]

Elite: Friendship is Magic at it's finest)

I fixed it.


PS> when tritium can be purchased for 4000 credits per ton... any other way of getting it is like a waste of resources.
(yea, i know people used to steal Toilette Paper from trucks like 2-3 months ago, but still...)

 

[Snowymonk]

Where have you Pirate ies been all week? I have hauled 2 full 23000t loads of Tritium since 10th June for 2.9b in profit, 100% in open. Not even seen 1 Pirate CMDR, or any true Griefers either. NPC Pirates are more hard working (but less effective) than you guys. And it cant be frequency, each load requires 62 trips to the station to buy and sell, so my 2 loads took me 248 round trips, 20+hrs, in open.

I always thought you lot were lazy opertunistic scumbags.

Tritium is so prevalent across so many stations that pirates can't camp at the destination system and wait for you to come to them.
You are no longer in the Borann situation where there were only one or two stations selling at exhorbitant prices.

This is how piracy should be. Allowing the majority of the trade traffic to behave normally in Open so that when a piracy interdiction does take place, Commanders react appropriately (and stay in open). Commanders were being driven to Solo or PG because of the need to generate the cash for FC and avoid the choke points.

...and stolen Tritium should be allowed to be donated fuel but I guess it was missed from the original scope.

 

[Crank Larson]

This does seem a little daft. Secure storage should allow you to process your dodgy fuel, imo.

 

[CMDR Nathan Atterlein]

Where have you Pirate ies been all week? I have hauled 2 full 23000t loads of Tritium since 10th June for 2.9b in profit, 100% in open. Not even seen 1 Pirate CMDR, or any true Griefers either. NPC Pirates are more hard working (but less effective) than you guys. And it cant be frequency, each load requires 62 trips to the station to buy and sell, so my 2 loads took me 248 round trips, 20+hrs, in open.

I always thought you lot were lazy opertunistic scumbags.

The Galaxy is a large area, can't be everywhere at the same time.

Also thanks for validating that open isn't that scary place as solo players make it out to be!

 

[MarkyH]

...and stolen Tritium should be allowed to be donated fuel but I guess it was missed from the original scope.

Agree, and a Black Market Fence, should be a fence, sell stolen at 75% market rate, then able to sell on clean for 100% market rate. Otherwise what is the point of a black market if stolen goods cant be sold on free of stolen tags?

 

[Bruce Warren]

I can see the Galnet articles now

"And in 3306 the Tritium Wars began. The precise origins are uncertain but within a few short weeks entire systems were laid waste
as organised fleets of carriers fought to the last man over this precious commodity"

I have to agree with the OP on this one. If the carrier is supposed to be a pirate with a secure cargo depot then it ought to be able
to use stolen fuel.

 

[Melanthes]

This really makes no sense at all, why even set up pirate carriers if we can't steal tritium? Or are we supposed to play disney pirates who don't steal?

 

[Screemonster]

This really makes no sense at all, why even set up pirate carriers if we can't steal tritium? Or are we supposed to play disney pirates who don't steal?

 

[Schmack]

This really is absurd and has to be an oversight (I hope) piracz is possibly the least efficient method to acquire Tritium, so I can't see any gameplay justification for this apart from possible mission-cargo theft and I haven't seen any Tritium hauling missions yet. If this is the reason, do as @CMDR Nathan Atterlein suggested and scrap those. We can Haul other mission cargo.



What if I wanted to acquire it using the gameplay loop I enjoy the most?

Nothing stops you from acquiring it. You just can't use it for fuel for your carrier.

I don't think I've ever tried but can we use stolen limpets when mining? If so then the fuel issue is an inconsistency that needs to be addressed. Even if you can't use stolen limpets, what's the reason?

 

[Schmack]

This really makes no sense at all, why even set up pirate carriers if we can't steal tritium? Or are we supposed to play disney pirates who don't steal?

What other marketable good can we steal and use without needing to fence it through a black market?

If you could steal it and use it, the stolen good has the same value as the marketed good that's clean. There's always a discount on stolen items which would not be the case for tritium if you could use it the same as purchased items.

 

[soloe]

Nothing stops you from acquiring it. You just can't use it for fuel for your carrier.

I don't think I've ever tried but can we use stolen limpets when mining? If so then the fuel issue is an inconsistency that needs to be addressed. Even if you can't use stolen limpets, what's the reason?

You can use stolen limpets.