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Two years today. Remember Salome - Text Cyphers
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Telling us to look up:
Then look up... Look up and say to yourself: "I have loved the starts too dearly to be fearful of the night."
Find your resolve, Commanders, for you are the true "Children of Raxxla."
I wish you a safe voyage home, but for now...
Remember!
The section from the Referenced poem "The Old Astronomer" :
Pray, remember, that I leave you all my theory complete,
Lacking only certain data, for your adding, as is meet;
And remember, men will scorn it, ’tis original and true,
And the obloquy of newness may fall bitterly on you.
Suggests adding the word RIFT to the text on the right ?
Then look up... Look up and say to yourself: "I have loved the starts too dearly to be fearful of the night."
Find your resolve, Commanders, for you are the true "Children of Raxxla."
I wish you a safe voyage home, but for now...
Remember!
The section from the Referenced poem "The Old Astronomer" :
Pray, remember, that I leave you all my theory complete,
Lacking only certain data, for your adding, as is meet;
And remember, men will scorn it, ’tis original and true,
And the obloquy of newness may fall bitterly on you.
Suggests adding the word RIFT to the text on the right ?
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I thought the solution was going to be revealed in Drew’s livestream, which I assumed was yesterday evening. Did it happen?
He cancelled today streaming as he didn't have his power supply for his laptop.
Yes. I think Mr Wagar provided the map, either in the code, or in the soliloquy. My first guess is that the capital case letters and numbers are separate from the lower case, and the lower case are good old-fashioned anagrams. How are your Scrabble skills cmdrs?
I was just thinking something along this line.
rhT7aamtC7 = ram tah T7 C7
r + 4 + 2 = ram +1 = t - 2 - 4 = tah...
Or:
r+5+1 = ram +1 = t -3-3 = tah
Or If you remove the T7C7 first:
r+2+2+1=t-2-2= ram tah
r+3+1+1=t-3-1= ram tah
Or it could.
eyketsoa
1+4+2+1-2-4
eto asy ke
1+5+1+1-3-3
eso aty ke
e+2+2+1=t-2-2= ekt sey oa
e+3+1+1=t-3-1= eet sky oa
What if the letters and numbers combined are meant to stay that way. T7 and C7 could be the XX-X T7-# and XX-X C7-#. It could simplify this fast if we can pull out numbers from a system coordinate.
T7, C7, H17, I7, L8, R2, H1, H4, T4, O0, I6, K4, P5.(13 capital letters and 13-14 numbers) That means we could be dealing with up to 11 system names.
RC, CD, MA, LT (2x4=8)and up to 4 via this logic. Assuming the letters can only be system names if they are already clumped together in the text.
How many of those combos can be a viable system name in game? 'RA'-X 'T7'-# etc. I think only so many letter combos exist don't they. Or are all four viable coordinates?
Also, Sum is in one of the words: Sum snkpe
And, if you take out the numbers and Capital letters I think you get 245 characters. 328-61-22=245... Is that the same amount of characters in the poem? I just counted 220-232. This is closer to the correct count. Some lower letters going with the capitals could account for this difference. 13-25 extra characters. One short of the alphabet.
How does a letter statistic count stack up now What letters should not be in there? The numbers count should give some idea as to which word counts are too high. I'm assuming at this point that the poem is in this list with extra stuff put in. I'm assuming we have to separate them and figure out the clues. I'm also assuming figuring out how the letters of the poem are rearanged or changed will also be a clue once seperated from the other characters potentially.
61 capital letters minus 22 leaves us with 39 capital letters outside of the poem. The capital letters in the poem do not match the capital letters in the list. This means a simple letter shift could be possible at this point. Maybe 13 shift or something simple. What shift amongst all capital letters would get the exact capital letters in the poem?
R, E, A, V, E, D, S, R, H, E, C, C, M, A, G, A, E, W, Q, F, R, F, R, C, V, E, Z, P, G, T, D, M, P, P, S, S, V, D, P. and T7, C7, H17, L8, R2, H1, H4, T4, O0, K4, P5.
13:
Poem contains:
SOLILOQUYTPWATBIIFDIIJC (23)
If that can be figured out then you can figure out which ones are not part of the poem and start to find how the poem was encrypted.
What is odd is that the word SOLILOQUY Does not exist in the native capital letters as it does in the poem. It also does not exist in any number shift of the capital letters. This means something more complicated must be going on. Or maybe the numbers need to be thrown in with the capital letters. Either way, SOLILOQUY being in all caps is probably the key to figuring this out. Find it and we will have a huge chunk of the puzzle out of the way. it allows us to work with a much smaller subset to find it and decrypt the puzzle.
My other question is if the entire poem and extra info were encrypted together or separately and then combined. There could be multiple ways to figure this out. Separate then decrypt. Or decrypt then separate.
There is also the possibility that the poem was encrypted but the extra data wasn't. Or it's encrypted in a seperate way. If we can find SOLILOQUY and potentially apply it to the entire text we migtht be able to find the poem characters and seperate them. At which point you can see if the extra characters make sense of they have to be reverted back to there original given form and decrytped or rearanged in a different manner.
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Or, we're overthinking it. Anytime I get long chains of letters/numbers I remember the movie Pi (by Aronofsky). Madness lies that way.
Great film that and rather dark!
If we assume I'm correct then we can assume how many numbers and letters there are for the non poem information.
*including punctuation characters
328 - 232* or 220 = 96* - 108 characters. 58 - 23 = 35 Capital Letters. And if we assume numbers are not translated into punctuation: 21 - 22 numbers. If we assume some are punctuation: (21 or 22) - 12 = 9 or 10 numbers.
If we assume 4 system names. That takes a minimum of 12 capital letters in the XX-X X Portion. If we assume numbers are clumped that uses 4-8 numbers. N0t sure if dashes would be needed or converted. If they are a minimum of 4. That also means there needs to be that many repeats. if it converts in simple manner.
That leaves at maximum 90 characters for the system names and any wording.. At minimum that leaves 66 and potentially too few numbers to convert to dashes/punctuation. That averages 90/4=22.5 and 66/4=16.5 which leaves too many for only system names. So, that means there must be some text involved.
If there is text and 4 system names that leave at most 19 capital letters outside of the coordinate part. 19/4 = 4.75 for sector name and left over numbers.. or if only starting letter is capital 19-4=15 maximum words besides sector names assuming 4. If we assume the larger amount of number from no punctuation conversion from numbers we can have something like:
XX #### Sector XX-X X#(-#)
XX #### Sector XX-X X#(-#)
XX #### Sector XX-X X#(-#)
XX #### Sector XX-X X#(-#)
35 - 21 = 14 capital letters/words
21 - 24 = -3 numbers
Note: If they are all special systems with no last number:
21 - 20 = 1 numbers remaining. This leaves 1 or two systems with a final number. Or a planet name.
108(96) - 20 = 88(76) lowercase characters potentially.
This could mean there are similarly up to 14 lines of text.(if one capital is at the start of each line.) So, no more than:
88 / 14 = 6.285714286 average lowercase characters per line or 88+14 = 102/14 = 7.285714286 average characters per line.
76 / 14 = 5.428571429 average lowercase characters per line or 76+14 = 90/14 = 6.428571429 average characters per line.
More if it's not consisting of those types of sector names. In which case what do you do with the extra numbers..
That is assuming a lot though.
This part can't be overthinking it as it's simpler than any potential cipher. And given he gave the poem out as a clue and the palimpsests word it's likely correct on some level.
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You don't think it's in regards to the initiative stuff going on. A palimpsests could be describing the clue. The blueprints could mean new or existing guardian tech.
Although with the it's stars are locked it would make me think something like col 70 sector. It says stars not star. Maybe we are looking for a description of locked systems. Maybe the name of the locked sectors.
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Is it possible the 4 system names(assuming) are the ones we got to choose in phase one of the initiative?! (NVM, there were 5 to choose from.)
It all fits potentially.
That is 20 digits total. Pretty close.
*including punctuation characters
328 - 232* or 220 = 96* - 108 characters. 58 - 23 = 35 Capital Letters. And if we assume numbers are not translated into punctuation: 21 - 22 numbers. If we assume some are punctuation: (21 or 22) - 12 = 9 or 10 numbers.
If we assume 4 system names. That takes a minimum of 12 capital letters in the XX-X X Portion. If we assume numbers are clumped that uses 4-8 numbers. N0t sure if dashes would be needed or converted. If they are a minimum of 4. That also means there needs to be that many repeats. if it converts in simple manner.
That leaves at maximum 90 characters for the system names and any wording.. At minimum that leaves 66 and potentially too few numbers to convert to dashes/punctuation. That averages 90/4=22.5 and 66/4=16.5 which leaves too many for only system names. So, that means there must be some text involved.
If there is text and 4 system names that leave at most 19 capital letters outside of the coordinate part. 19/4 = 4.75 for sector name and left over numbers.. or if only starting letter is capital 19-4=15 maximum words besides sector names assuming 4. If we assume the larger amount of number from no punctuation conversion from numbers we can have something like:
XX #### Sector XX-X X#(-#)
XX #### Sector XX-X X#(-#)
XX #### Sector XX-X X#(-#)
XX #### Sector XX-X X#(-#)
35 - 21 = 14 capital letters/words
21 - 24 = -3 numbers
Note: If they are all special systems with no last number:
21 - 20 = 1 numbers remaining. This leaves 1 or two systems with a final number. Or a planet name.
108(96) - 20 = 88(76) lowercase characters potentially.
This could mean there are similarly up to 14 lines of text.(if one capital is at the start of each line.) So, no more than:
88 / 14 = 6.285714286 average lowercase characters per line or 88+14 = 102/14 = 7.285714286 average characters per line.
76 / 14 = 5.428571429 average lowercase characters per line or 76+14 = 90/14 = 6.428571429 average characters per line.
More if it's not consisting of those types of sector names. In which case what do you do with the extra numbers..
That is assuming a lot though.
This part can't be overthinking it as it's simpler than any potential cipher. And given he gave the poem out as a clue and the palimpsests word it's likely correct on some level.
Definition of SOLILOQUY
the act of talking to oneself; a poem, discourse, or utterance of a character in a drama that has the form of a monologue or gives the illusion of being a series of unspoken reflections… See the full definition
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You don't think it's in regards to the initiative stuff going on. A palimpsests could be describing the clue. The blueprints could mean new or existing guardian tech.
Although with the it's stars are locked it would make me think something like col 70 sector. It says stars not star. Maybe we are looking for a description of locked systems. Maybe the name of the locked sectors.
Bridging the Gap - Phase One - Commencement
This weeks CG is actually live now - trade, not war this week - see the thread here for more details I just logged in aboard The Conduit with Krait MK2, my plan was to dabble around with the Krait and go to Pencil/ New Growth and call over some other ships incl Diamond Back Explorer Taxi. I...
Is it possible the 4 system names(assuming) are the ones we got to choose in phase one of the initiative?! (NVM, there were 5 to choose from.)
It all fits potentially.
- IC 2391 Sector FL-X b1-7
- Synuefe IL-N C23-19
- Synuefe EN-H d11-96
- Synuefe GT-H b43-1
- Synuefe PF-E b45-5
That is 20 digits total. Pretty close.
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Lol, wut?
Anyway, Mach10 allegedly solved the riddle, but on which stream it'll appear, who knows.
O7,
Lol, wut?
Anyway, Mach10 allegedly solved the riddle, but on which stream it'll appear, who knows.
O7,
Cool! Did he say anything about the nature of the solution? Or the answer? 8d
Two years today. Remember Salome - Text Cyphers
There are 2 things that keep bugging me about the Salome picture: 1) why the Cortazar quote? 2) why was the Rot13 part written like that? Cortazar is a great argentinian novelist and one of his best novels is called Hopscotch (Rayuela in original). The novel has 155 chapters and can be read in...
is all I know of. Perhaps RL got in-between.
O7,
You don't think it's in regards to the initiative stuff going on. A palimpsests could be describing the clue. The blueprints could mean new or existing guardian tech.
Although with the it's stars are locked it would make me think something like col 70 sector. It says stars not star. Maybe we are looking for a description of locked systems. Maybe the name of the locked sectors.
Bridging the Gap - Phase One - Commencement
This weeks CG is actually live now - trade, not war this week - see the thread here for more details I just logged in aboard The Conduit with Krait MK2, my plan was to dabble around with the Krait and go to Pencil/ New Growth and call over some other ships incl Diamond Back Explorer Taxi. I...
Is it possible the 4 system names(assuming) are the ones we got to choose in phase one of the initiative?! (NVM, there were 5 to choose from.)
It all fits potentially.
That is 20 digits total. Pretty close.
- IC 2391 Sector FL-X b1-7
- Synuefe IL-N C23-19
- Synuefe EN-H d11-96
- Synuefe GT-H b43-1
- Synuefe PF-E b45-5
Drew Wagar already mention that this had nothing to do with the initiative ( Bridging the Gap) in one of his tweets.
Source: https://twitter.com/drewwagar/status/1122892776952168448
I didn't think of that. What if the layering is based on fibonacci.
Here is the console output from my frequency analysis java class. It has character counts as well. Figured I share it because... Why not? [Apparently total characters was concatenated as a string, the answer is 585 not 24561
Yep, that was out of context somehow, but I couldn't make sense of it initially (had to look up Cortazar tbh) and later didn't return.
Anyway, as you were either smarter or more stubborn than us, any news on when and where you will share the results? So that we can put this case to rest, in awe ofc
O7,