Ships Type 8 worse for mining than the Python?

A bit late to mention this perhaps, but the modified Torval mining lasers can be got from the other Torval Mining megaships, House Ascendant in 21 Eridani and .. whatever it's called .. in Laguz, at least last time I checked, so the permit isn't required.
Interesting, thx for info. It was not hard to get that permit, but knowledge is always welcome
 
I am thinking about setting up a ship for Tritium mining far away from The Bubble / civilization. It will be deployed from a FC.

I already have a T-8 and I would like to use it for mining.
I think I can skip large shields. It currently has 5C Bi-Wave.

Edit: Something like that?

https://edsy.org/s/vTiQgWr

(Engineering was already done)
 
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I am thinking about setting up a ship for Tritium mining far away from The Bubble / civilization. It will be deployed from a FC.

I already have a T-8 and I would like to use it for mining.
I think I can skip large shields. It currently has 5C Bi-Wave.

7A Universal Multi limpet
2 x 6E cargo
5A Collector limpet controller
5H Guardian FSD (it's already installed)
5A Collector limpet controller
4A Refinery
1A Prospector limpet cotroller

HP :
M 2 Mining laser
S 1 mining laser
S 1 mining laser
S 1 mining laser
S 1 Abrasion blaster
S 1 Sub Surface Displacement Missile
The easiest way to find out is to try it, just find your nearest Pristine ice ring with a Tritium hotspot, you will also need to fit a Detailed Surface Scanner to be able to find and see hotspots.
 
I am thinking about setting up a ship for Tritium mining far away from The Bubble / civilization. It will be deployed from a FC.

I already have a T-8 and I would like to use it for mining.
I think I can skip large shields. It currently has 5C Bi-Wave.

Edit: Something like that?

https://edsy.org/s/vTiQgWr

(Engineering was already done)
Don't engineer E-rated modules - total waste. D-rate the life support and sensors.
No need for overcharged plant, you hae plenty of power with Armored, OC just makes you hot for no reason.
Are you married to the Type-8? Your build with just the mining lasers has a 13 second TTD (time to drain WEP), after which at least one will turn off, and then you will overheat and have to stop firing to avoid heat damage. If you had infinite regen then 1med3small will take you much longer than that at 83 seconds to drain a rock, according to IMU's math. This is most of why the Type-8 is such a bad laser miner: the tiny distributor, and the lack of medium hardpoints. So at least one of those smalls is an active detriment to your laser mining: drop one or two for best results.
You can of course use whatever you want, but I'd strongly encourage you to use something else for laser mining.
 
The easiest way to find out is to try it, just find your nearest Pristine ice ring with a Tritium hotspot, you will also need to fit a Detailed Surface Scanner to be able to find and see hotspots.
Is laser mining affected by points? Are there points that say tritium?
 
I wrote that he doesn't need a surface scanner to extract tritium.
You do not, you can just laser around in an ice ring and you will find SOME tritium, but if you want to mine Tritium efficiently then you need to mine it in a tritium hotspot. To find hotspots you need to have a DSS fitted.

That translator is not working very well, there are hotspots for tritium, when your post said "points" I thought you were referring to the power play points which I am not involved with.
 
You do not, you can just laser around in an ice ring and you will find SOME tritium, but if you want to mine Tritium efficiently then you need to mine it in a tritium hotspot. To find hotspots you need to have a DSS fitted.

That translator is not working very well, there are hotspots for tritium, when your post said "points" I thought you were referring to the power play points which I am not involved with.
I see your point, used to mine all the time without a DSS scanner, it wasn't in the game.
As far as I remember it appeared at the same time as core mining. So I always thought that for laser mining the type of ring, rich, etc. is important, and DSS doesn't affect it.

I will now look closely at the type of points and when I find a POINT named Tritium I will believe it affects it.

P.S. Strange, it turns out there are such points ...
 
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Is laser mining affected by points? Are there points that say tritium?
If by points you mean hot spots, then yes. You will find a higher occurrence of rocks with with hot spot named mineral than elsewhere. Last I knew there was some question over double, overlapping hot spots of the same name having an even higher occurrence, but that was a while ago and if it has been determined I do not know.
 
If by points you mean hot spots, then yes. You will find a higher occurrence of rocks with with hot spot named mineral than elsewhere. Last I knew there was some question over double, overlapping hot spots of the same name having an even higher occurrence, but that was a while ago and if it has been determined I do not know.
I used to collect opals in triple dots for FC, it was a long time ago.
 
I am thinking about setting up a ship for Tritium mining far away from The Bubble / civilization. It will be deployed from a FC.

I already have a T-8 and I would like to use it for mining.
I think I can skip large shields. It currently has 5C Bi-Wave.

Edit: Something like that?

https://edsy.org/s/vTiQgWr

(Engineering was already done)
I'm opting for a class 4 prismatic for my Type 8 for trading, I'd imagine that's suitable for mining as well and give you some more space to work with.
 
I see your point, used to mine all the time without a DSS scanner, it wasn't in the game.
As far as I remember it appeared at the same time as core mining. So I always thought that for laser mining the type of ring, rich, etc. is important, and DSS doesn't affect it.

I will now look closely at the type of points and when I find a POINT named Tritium I will believe it affects it.

P.S. Strange, it turns out there are such points ...
You don't need a DSS for mining in a resource extraction site; however, you only find them in the bubble, not in deep space.

A T8 is a complete waste of space for laser mining as its PD is too small. Sure, you can use any ship for any activity you want, but that doesn't mean it's good. Why not just use a Python, which is the champion in that size? People have bought the T8, now they want to find a use for it. Really?? Is that how the game works? I always thought it was better to choose a ship that's good for the job you want to do, but I'm a bit old school.
 
You don't need a DSS for mining in a resource extraction site; however, you only find them in the bubble, not in deep space.

A T8 is a complete waste of space for laser mining as its PD is too small. Sure, you can use any ship for any activity you want, but that doesn't mean it's good. Why not just use a Python, which is the champion in that size? People have bought the T8, now they want to find a use for it. Really?? Is that how the game works? I always thought it was better to choose a ship that's good for the job you want to do, but I'm a bit old school.
NPCs may also fly in at mining sites.
As for the T8, personally I just like the look of it.
 
NPCs may also fly in at mining sites.
As for the T8, personally I just like the look of it.
That's right, but they're pretty reasonable. They mainly leave you alone, and when they do come, they don't ask for much considering that you get 50% extra for mining there.

T8 looks downright weird to me. I guess we're all different; however, I don't care how weird any ship looks, if it does the job, I'd use it. After a lot of module juggling, I can get the T8 closer to the Python, but it involves grinding for the Torval Mining pre-engineered lasers, which aren't necessary on a Python. Even then, it still can't reach the Pythons mining speed (-17%) and collection speed (-12.5%). Everything else is about even, apart from the looks!

Here are the two builds i compared, where the T8's class 1 lasers are actually the half-power pre-engineered ones that aren't shown in Inara. I gave both full engineering for comparison purposes. the difference in mining speed would be greater without engineering:
 
That's right, but they're pretty reasonable. They mainly leave you alone, and when they do come, they don't ask for much considering that you get 50% extra for mining there.

T8 looks downright weird to me. I guess we're all different; however, I don't care how weird any ship looks, if it does the job, I'd use it. After a lot of module juggling, I can get the T8 closer to the Python, but it involves grinding for the Torval Mining pre-engineered lasers, which aren't necessary on a Python. Even then, it still can't reach the Pythons mining speed (-17%) and collection speed (-12.5%). Everything else is about even, apart from the looks!

Here are the two builds i compared, where the T8's class 1 lasers are actually the half-power pre-engineered ones that aren't shown in Inara. I gave both full engineering for comparison purposes. the difference in mining speed would be greater without engineering:
I fly the T8 for my own pleasure, I sometimes have to switch to Mandaday or P2 or Cutter for various missions, but after completing a mission I just go back to the T8, its engine sound, its camera shake, etc.
When I'm mining I do it for my own pleasure and it's mostly core mining, but four spears are good for me too.
It reminds me of the Corbelan from Romulus.
 
I fly the T8 for my own pleasure, I sometimes have to switch to Mandaday or P2 or Cutter for various missions, but after completing a mission I just go back to the T8, its engine sound, its camera shake, etc.
When I'm mining I do it for my own pleasure and it's mostly core mining, but four spears are good for me too.
It reminds me of the Corbelan from Romulus.
Don't use those mining lances. They sound like a good idea, but they're terrible. You need short range lasers not long range. When the range is too long, they knock fragments out when you're too far away, which makes them spread out. The limpets now have much further to travel, so the time to collect the fragments goes up exponentially with your distance from the rock. When laser mining, you should have your nose right next to the rock so that the fragments come out directly to the cargo hatch, where the limpets flick them in. You can mine how you like, but if you're going to do it, it sort of makes sense to do it efficiently.

The lances do have a use, and that's team mining, where you sit below and behind your partner, who has the collector limpets. He fires at the rock from a close distance to get the first quota of fragments, then you fire at it to bring out your quota, which he collects. The guy nearest the rocks needs a big ship with loads of cargo space. The other only needs firepower for the lasers. You get a bonus (5%?) when you sell the stuff from team mining. It's a bit of fun, but if you know what you're doing, you can mine faster on your own because less to organise.
 
Don't use those mining lances. They sound like a good idea, but they're terrible. You need short range lasers not long range. When the range is too long, they knock fragments out when you're too far away, which makes them spread out. The limpets now have much further to travel, so the time to collect the fragments goes up exponentially with your distance from the rock. When laser mining, you should have your nose right next to the rock so that the fragments come out directly to the cargo hatch, where the limpets flick them in. You can mine how you like, but if you're going to do it, it sort of makes sense to do it efficiently.

The lances do have a use, and that's team mining, where you sit below and behind your partner, who has the collector limpets. He fires at the rock from a close distance to get the first quota of fragments, then you fire at it to bring out your quota, which he collects. The guy nearest the rocks needs a big ship with loads of cargo space. The other only needs firepower for the lasers. You get a bonus (5%?) when you sell the stuff from team mining. It's a bit of fun, but if you know what you're doing, you can mine faster on your own because less to organise.
I already know all that. And if I want efficient laser mining I take Cutter, but I haven't done that in a while.

Why? No reason.
As for spears, their purpose in the game is to kill enemies. It's bad enough that they do it badly, but the developers don't want to fix it.
 
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