UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn

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Baelydon

Baelydon
Dommarraa said:
Oh the short attention span of youth.
There was a time not too long ago, where a scientist would invest 100 hours or more just to get a glimpse of a ua. Now when we have galnet telling us of 2 systems of interest, it seems that a few waits for a signal source is enough to convince everyone that there is nothing to see, wait for fd to offer it up on a plate.
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To whom are you referring? Me?



And has anyone come across a "Canister: Diplomatic Bag"? I destroyed one yesterday trying to scoop it and I can't find anything when searching for it online (other than someone asking how much various items are worth). I'm pretty sure it was in populated space though.
 
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DialBforBiscuit

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What do you guys think about the AEOs being a Stellar Engine?

Merope is an interesting star to point out, because it is a fantastic example of radiation pressure. The nebula near merope is currently (in 2015) being destroyed by the star's brightness. A stellar engine uses this principle to create work from starlight.

The AEOs have been appearing in a enlarging sphere around Pleiades. And at some point they all started turning round, facing the same direction. Like a tether's slack just ran out.

I'm not smart enough to know how extra-dimensional physics work. We have thousands of systems, and thousands more inside the bubble. If the AEOs are linked to witch space (and their distortions effect that), and if they are tethered to something -big- in witch space. The combined tugs of every AEO might drag something out into normal space.

Moving and disrupting them causes a snap back. Snapping them back into witch space. The distortion we see when they 'die'.

Thargoid theories abound, and I'm jumping on it. The Mycoid virus didn't effect just Thargoids, but also their technology. Yes there was a vaccine, but was it given to them in time? They aren't around. I assume not. Surviving buggies still live in witch space with their previous ways of exiting witch space -gone-. So they made something new. Something that was not only different in appearance, but function. Immune to the virus. A new design. Since there's no easy way to push something ship-sized or bigger they pushed as many tiny things through as possible.

There's so many, we can't stop what's coming.

MB said it wasn't a dyson sphere. Why did he only respond to that one theory out of the hundreds we've posted? The dyson sphere was the first megastructure mentioned. Maybe that was a hint, these make up a megastructure. A very very very large stellar engine. Its the only megastructure I've found that uses tiny points. The force required to tug something through a dimension must be HUGE, and we know a shell of 5000+ stars are all burning outwards, catching possibly hundreds of AEOs per system, maybe more.

So about our stations. We need to stop. They aren't going to burn, or explode, or just shut down. No. Something much worse will happen with thousands of AEOs all suddenly get tugged back into witch space... the station will go with them. Maybe tugging on our stations will only hasten that... thing coming into normal space.
 

Jmanis

Jmanis
tiger61378 said:
I'm not sure about fatal UA accidents...might be something to try in a sidewinder sometime, see what happens.
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For what it's worth (not sure if anyone mentioned this), this is no longer possible now that getting Powerplant to 0% doesn't cause ship death. UA's don't cause hull degradation, so something else will always trigger your death.

EDIT: Also, I've been staring at my navel the last few days, because shortly before Arietis 49 had issues, I sold one of the UA's I found (all the others I've used destructively, intentionally and inadvertently) to one of the closest stations to the Pleiades nebula that I could find. I know others have sold there, but I may too have sold at Arietis 49.

I've been hauling for the station CG (top 5% last I checked), but I might spend an evening shipping UA's to a secret station and just watch the news... EDIT: Ninja'ed. Still, more people doing it, would be interesting to see if things keep up.
 
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dubanator

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Just going to ask, has anyone used a collector limpet on the UA? what would happen if it expired when connected to the collector? keep the cargo bay doors closed so the limpet cannot finish.
What about the prospector limpet, can you attach that to the UA?
on another note, is there anything special about LP 413-18? it's description goes something like "as boring as it's dwarf star, nothing to see here", it seemed quite suspicious. the exploration data was available and nothing extra appeared when I scanned with an advanced scanner.
 

Ziljan

Ziljan
I had one in my hold for about 90 min. Or so I thought, because when I pulled up the station to sell it, it had vanished from my cargo bay. I didn't think they lost health in your hold? But maybe my cargo hatch malfunctioned and jettisoned the UA in SC or witchspace while I was busy having a very interesting conversation?
 

Schembri

Schembri
@ DialBforaBuiscuit, I bet on the same concept, (see post number 8417)whatever they are they will use the shell of UAs as anchors to teleport something huge, my bet a planet so they can bring their resources with them to wage the war. Also possibly the sphere within the shell will be a modified space that damages our technology. So we are always at a disadvantage fighting them at their home turf.
I still bet 50% they might not be the thargoids.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=175726&p=2971364&viewfull=1#post2971364
 
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RedWizzard

RedWizzard
Ziljan said:
I had one in my hold for about 90 min. Or so I thought, because when I pulled up the station to sell it, it had vanished from my cargo bay. I didn't think they lost health in your hold? But maybe my cargo hatch malfunctioned and jettisoned the UA in SC or witchspace while I was busy having a very interesting conversation?
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Your cargo hatch probably failed while you were in supercruise. It's happened to me before. They don't degrade while they are in your hold.
 
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Jmanis

Jmanis
Well, I just collected and dumped four of the blighters in my chosen station. Will try and dump some more later tonight (heading out now). Intentionally keeping where secret for now :p

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CMDR Sheehy

CMDR Sheehy
The fact that the know morse suggests a human intervention. Humans have used Alien tech in the past - remember the ECM? It was made from Thargoid tech.

These are INRA inventions. The same people who know how to bend space to hide planets (Raxxla.) This secret organisation who got people assassinated for getting too snoopy. Who are experimenting in the Pleiades Sector in Medical Transports marked unusually as "No Faction" (or something similar) in red instead of wanted. They are aware of an imminent incursion by Thargoids and have put these marker boys in SSS to attract Thargoids. When they see one, it will alert them and we will see one holy war started over this, with Humans standing on both sides.
 

Ziljan

Ziljan
RedWizzard said:
Your cargo hatch probably failed while you were in supercruise. It's happened to me before. They don't degrade while they are in your hold.
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Ah thanks! Any idea if leaving the cargo hatch on constant repair mode would solve the issue? Or does the hatch need to be powered to stay closed?
 

EAGLE 5

EAGLE 5
Just ran into another UA within a minute of jumping into Hyades Sector BV-Y C6

EDIT: a couple of observations and questions from my latest trip.

First and foremost I'm well on my way to supply an unnamed station with UAs to see if a change will happen. I'll be keeping an eye out in the news for developments.

Secondly I have a question regarding testing on the UAs.. has anyone let the UA corrode the ship's modules as long as possible by only repairing the cargo hatch? I've been doing this with 2 then 3 UAs in the hold and while flying and I noticed a very interesting message in the damage control panel... ENGINE STABILIZERS DISENGAGED.... what is that...??? I've seen toxic cargo warnings but that is the first time I see that now here's the best part... I don't recall being in hyperspace when that happened more like supercruising in the system but I could be wrong, however my screenshot of it shows me clearly in hyperspace.. It's late and I may be out of it but I don't think I was in hyperspace when I saw that... space madness is hitting me?

THEORY: not sure but the Antares but could SS1 have suffered a similar malfunctioned and ended very badly for them? I mean wasn't there something in the news about some safeties malfunctioning on SS1 causing the disappearance? Engine Stabilizers seem like the sort of safeties that would probably punt you into witchspace with a no return ticket.... I may be very lucky here.
 
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Jmanis

Jmanis
EAGLE 5 said:
Just ran into another UA within a minute of jumping into Hyades Sector BV-Y C6

EDIT: a couple of observations and questions from my latest trip.

First and foremost I'm well on my way to supply an unnamed station with UAs to see if a change will happen. I'll be keeping an eye out in the news for developments.

Secondly I have a question regarding testing on the UAs.. has anyone let the UA corrode the ship's modules as long as possible by only repairing the cargo hatch? I've been doing this with 2 then 3 UAs in the hold and while flying and I noticed a very interesting message in the damage control panel... ENGINE STABILIZERS DISENGAGED.... what is that...??? I've seen toxic cargo warnings but that is the first time I see that now here's the best part... I don't recall being in hyperspace when that happened more like supercruising in the system but I could be wrong, however my screenshot of it shows me clearly in hyperspace.. It's late and I may be out of it but I don't think I was in hyperspace when I saw that... space madness is hitting me?

THEORY: not sure but the Antares but could SS1 have suffered a similar malfunctioned and ended very badly for them? I mean wasn't there something in the news about some safeties malfunctioning on SS1 causing the disappearance? Engine Stabilizers seem like the sort of safeties that would probably punt you into witchspace with a no return ticket.... I may be very lucky here.
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Is it possible that the engine stabilizers are the 'flight assist' mode? Not wanting to try and dismiss it off the bat, just offering up a possible explanation. Definitely warrants more investigation :)
 

LordZoltan

LordZoltan
EAGLE 5 said:
Just ran into another UA within a minute of jumping into Hyades Sector BV-Y C6

EDIT: a couple of observations and questions from my latest trip.

First and foremost I'm well on my way to supply an unnamed station with UAs to see if a change will happen. I'll be keeping an eye out in the news for developments.
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Nice - certainly worth a shot - both you and @jmanis, if I can rep, I will - if not, take one of Nick's 'special' Ritz crackers, and Kyp's Viscounts :D

EAGLE 5 said:
Secondly I have a question regarding testing on the UAs.. has anyone let the UA corrode the ship's modules as long as possible by only repairing the cargo hatch? I've been doing this with 2 then 3 UAs in the hold and while flying and I noticed a very interesting message in the damage control panel... ENGINE STABILIZERS DISENGAGED.... what is that...??? I've seen toxic cargo warnings but that is the first time I see that now here's the best part... I don't recall being in hyperspace when that happened more like supercruising in the system but I could be wrong, however my screenshot of it shows me clearly in hyperspace.. It's late and I may be out of it but I don't think I was in hyperspace when I saw that... space madness is hitting me?

THEORY: not sure but the Antares but could SS1 have suffered a similar malfunctioned and ended very badly for them? I mean wasn't there something in the news about some safeties malfunctioning on SS1 causing the disappearance? Engine Stabilizers seem like the sort of safeties that would probably punt you into witchspace with a no return ticket.... I may be very lucky here.
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Personally, and I'm fully aware that it's just pure supposition and waffle on my part, the connection between UAs and the SS1 incident is just too convenient.

Based on what happened afterwards, story-wise, foul play or a secret 'jump' to somewhere (e.g. a currently unknown dark system/place between systems) feel more likely to me.

There is another agent in the Elite Dangerous universe that is yet to be seen in-game other than the Thargoids: INRA; and if they're still 'a thing', then SS1 is definitely the kind of thing they'd do. Sow the seeds of suspicion on the aliens at the same time, and you've covered up human involvement.

Either way, we've definitely got more mysteries here than just the UA, and we've all got a part to play in cracking them. I hope. ;)
 
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EAGLE 5

EAGLE 5
Jmanis said:
Is it possible that the engine stabilizers are the 'flight assist' mode? Not wanting to try and dismiss it off the bat, just offering up a possible explanation. Definitely warrants more investigation :)
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I thought that too so I dropped out of SC after seeing the message and tried flying about... ship flew as it should with assist on. didn't try assist off and I should have but I did notice (maybe because I hadn't played in a while) that it seemed to handle too good at first may just be me again not being familiar with it after not playing but yeah I thought it was a unique message I got.
 
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