UA Search re: Halsey, Galnet, Federation variables.

Great to see this thread resurrected!


Popov... regarding your mysterious PM from Agent 8; hard to say whether it is a role player having a go, or the story Gm's trying to prod the search in the proper direction.


1. In any case, how can we go about finding the Antares? I wonder if we should make the jump to Azaleach as the President did, with the UA in hold. I know we tried this in 1.3, but maybe the UA will act differently now that it scans.

2. What are the home-worlds/corporate HQ for Core Dynamics and Sirius corp? Maybe we should poke around there with a UA in the hold... see if any authorities react differently, or if any unique BB missions occur.



Lastly, for those catching up.. read the first post in this thread.. it has links to older Galnet articles. Popov did a great job summarizing the more recent articles. I firmly believe that the Galnet articles are an integral part of this mystery, as it is a key tool for the devs to communicate to us. MB reaffirmed this I believe.
 
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Sirius is the System. But the Antares could be floating everywhere in the System, just like the Voyagers in Sol... :(
 
I made some search in Sirius, in SSS - wreakage near the star, station, planet (Lucifer) and also near 1.000.000 sl and more. Still nothing for the moment.
I also think about something like voyager in SOL.

Stay in touch !
 
Lastly, for those catching up.. read the first post in this thread.. it has links to older Galnet articles.

Good advice, my post assumed people had read the early articles about Halsey's disappearance and the UAs, so I didn't link them. I will do so when I talk about the UA and its link with SS1.

1. In any case, how can we go about finding the Antares? I wonder if we should make the jump to Azaleach as the President did, with the UA in hold. I know we tried this in 1.3, but maybe the UA will act differently now that it scans.

2. What are the home-worlds/corporate HQ for Core Dynamics and Sirius corp? Maybe we should poke around there with a UA in the hold... see if any authorities react differently, or if any unique BB missions occur.

IMO, nothing will come out of dropping the UA in interesting systems. If I'm right about the UA being an INRA creation, they won't give you the ability to find SS1 and/or Antares with it, as it could possibly wreck their plans. The UA is a much "simpler" device (not in its technology, but its goal), created to build fear.

How can we go about finding the Antares? Vithia and riz@l answered that question, it's in Sirius systems: Sirius, Avik, Procyon, Luyten's Star, Te Kaha, HIP 8396, Takurua, Almagest, Robigo, Ceos, Sothis. A pretty big list. As riz@l stated, if we need to apply the same techniques we applied to find the Voyager probes, we may never find the Antares. At least if it's just the four of us. But if it's more, like 2000 people, happily smuggling illegal goods, and they bump into a strange signal...?

I don't know.
 
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Good advice, my post assumed people had read the early articles about Halsey's disappearance and the UAs, so I didn't link them. I will do so when I talk about the UA and its link with SS1.



IMO, nothing will come out of dropping the UA in interesting systems. If I'm right about the UA being an INRA creation, they won't give you the ability to find SS1 and/or Antares with it, as it could possibly wreck their plans. The UA is a much "simpler" device (not in its technology, but its goal), created to build fear.

How can we go about finding the Antares? Vithia and riz@l answered that question, it's in Sirius systems: Sirius, Avik, Procyon, Luyten's Star, Te Kaha, HIP 8396, Takurua, Almagest, Robigo, Ceos, Sothis. A pretty big list. As riz@l stated, if we need to apply the same techniques we applied to find the Voyager probes, we may never find the Antares. At least if it's just the four of us. But if it's more, like 2000 people, happily smuggling illegal goods, and they bump into a strange signal...?

I don't know.


I'm thinking that having a UA in hold in the right system, may trigger a specific mission in the BB... or an AI to message you, akin to the alternate mission offers. Heck, having a UA in within the right system, may trigger a witch space jump. I am essentially guessing, but I figure the devs would use in game mechanics to perpetuate the story. Galnet, Bulletin Boards, AI interaction, are several tools at their disposal.


I have my ship/s fueled and ready to go.. should I mope around Merope, or scour Sirius Corp space? I am open to ideas.
 
As a casual observer, I'd also like to add that what happens in the Federation is also happening in the Empire.
Both have had their Leaders removed and those in any way connected to these deaths are getting silenced.
It's quite possible we are dealing with one, yet unseen but kinda murderous entity who's basic agenda seems to be the destabilization of existing Power structures, promoting infighting between Human's everywhere.
Wasn't that one of the subplots in Harper's "And Here the Wheel"?
 
Need your opinion guys:

Has anyone, especially in the main UA thread, come across a odd sounding UA at the Merope star? A high pitched whirring and whining?

Situation:
I picked up a UA, and went to Merope, then found a salvageable wreck .24 ly from the star..pretty close imo.

Went in the wreckage site... its huge.. with 5 occupied pods floating there, amongst the largest wreckage I have seen. Usually, I can tell what type of ship was blown up, in this case, my best guess would be a battelship.. or Anatares? ooohh maybe the SS1?

Long story short, the UA gave off a very different tone when floating in ront of the Merope main star... amongst a massive wreckage.

See enclosed recording.

[video=youtube_share;1aGG9_FWXGo]https://youtu.be/1aGG9_FWXGo[/video]


btw.. something bad happened to the UA.. which means I have to go back and find another one. oops.

Share your thoughts, I am wondering if this scenario has been encountered and discussed before.


(Sorry for poor video, but is the whining sound/ high pitched whirring new?)
 
Need your opinion guys:

Has anyone, especially in the main UA thread, come across a odd sounding UA at the Merope star? A high pitched whirring and whining?

Situation:
I picked up a UA, and went to Merope, then found a salvageable wreck .24 ly from the star..pretty close imo.

Went in the wreckage site... its huge.. with 5 occupied pods floating there, amongst the largest wreckage I have seen. Usually, I can tell what type of ship was blown up, in this case, my best guess would be a battelship.. or Anatares? ooohh maybe the SS1?

Long story short, the UA gave off a very different tone when floating in ront of the Merope main star... amongst a massive wreckage.

See enclosed recording.

https://youtu.be/1aGG9_FWXGo


btw.. something bad happened to the UA.. which means I have to go back and find another one. oops.

Share your thoughts, I am wondering if this scenario has been encountered and discussed before.


(Sorry for poor video, but is the whining sound/ high pitched whirring new?)


Nevermind guys... the sound IS different, but due to proximity to a star.. any star.
 
Need your opinion guys:

Has anyone, especially in the main UA thread, come across a odd sounding UA at the Merope star? A high pitched whirring and whining?

Situation:
I picked up a UA, and went to Merope, then found a salvageable wreck .24 ly from the star..pretty close imo.

Went in the wreckage site... its huge.. with 5 occupied pods floating there, amongst the largest wreckage I have seen. Usually, I can tell what type of ship was blown up, in this case, my best guess would be a battelship.. or Anatares? ooohh maybe the SS1?

Long story short, the UA gave off a very different tone when floating in ront of the Merope main star... amongst a massive wreckage.

See enclosed recording.

https://youtu.be/1aGG9_FWXGo


btw.. something bad happened to the UA.. which means I have to go back and find another one. oops.

Share your thoughts, I am wondering if this scenario has been encountered and discussed before.


(Sorry for poor video, but is the whining sound/ high pitched whirring new?)

Wait. Are you telling me you went into a salvageable wreck signal that looked nothing like what you've encountered in the past? You might have bumped into Antares indeed. Did it look like a graveyard of lost ships (FFE:Journals)
[ Can't find the article on the page I linked? Let me help you. CTRL+F and copy/paste this: ANOTHER ALIEN RACE. ]​


0.24LY from the star pretty close? That's pretty far IMO. xD

Now if this is indeed the Antares, we might have found the truth: the UAs were inside the Antares and when it got sabotaged, they got released in deep space. It only took them fifty years to learn and evolve. (xD)
 
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I made some search in Sirius, in SSS - wreakage near the star, station, planet (Lucifer) and also near 1.000.000 sl and more. Still nothing for the moment.
I also think about something like voyager in SOL.

Stay in touch !

Well ... still nothing in Sirius. Maybe the antares pop in wreckage with 1% spawn rate ^^ or maybe he's just not here...
Sirius is the only track that I have currently i mean we know The Antares disappear after a jump from here (FSD FAIL).
I have 2 theories on it:

1st
The ship maybe exploded in witchspace and go back to Sirius (probably at x.000.000 SL)
2nd
The ship maybe exploded in witchspace and pop in another systeme in a sort of graveyard. Like a place where all the wrecks would be rejected from the witchspace
 
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Wait. Are you telling me you went into a salvageable wreck signal that looked nothing like what you've encountered in the past? You might have bumped into Antares indeed. Did it look like a graveyard of lost ships (FFE:Journals)
[ Can't find the article on the page I linked? Let me help you. CTRL+F and copy/paste this: ANOTHER ALIEN RACE. ]​


0.24LY from the star pretty close? That's pretty far IMO. xD

Now if this is indeed the Antares, we might have found the truth: the UAs were inside the Antares and when it got sabotaged, they got released in deep space. It only took them fifty years to learn and evolve. (xD)


My mistake.. I ment to say.24 ls.. probably even closer.

The wreckage I was in was huge, and I have a screenie... but it is failing to upload. Now keep in mind that I may of not seen all the wreckage types, as my play time has been sporadic as of recent. I can tell you that I could not determine what was blown up, usually there are identifying parts. I visually checked some of teh major pieces looking for any evidence or ship names on the hull, but couldn't find anything.

Was it a grave yard of ships? Probably not, more akin to 3 Captial ships popping... if you can imagine that debris field.

Lastly, the UA sound was significantly different to me, but further testing showed that anytime it is near a star, the UA sound changes. Not sure how significant of a revelation that is.

So in all, I was in a unique "imo" wreckage site, very close to a star "tried the voyager II search thing", with a crazy high pitched UA. I thought for a moment.. that the occupied space pods I scooped at the site was President Halsey and staff LOL.

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Well ... still nothing in Sirius. Maybe the antares pop in wreckage with 1% spawn rate ^^ or maybe he's just not here...
Sirius is the only track that I have currently i mean we know The Antares disappear after a jump from here (FSD FAIL).
I have 2 theories on it:

1st
The ship maybe exploded in witchspace and go back to Sirius (probably at x.000.000 SL)
2nd
The ship maybe exploded in witchspace and pop in another systeme in a sort of graveyard. Like a place where all the wrecks would be rejected from the witchspace


How do we know the ships exploded?

Also, didn;t the Antares launch from Sirius? I would think teh Anatares is 1000 ly + away from its point of origin.


Lastly, I can join you if you want, but maybe we should retrace SS1 route to Azaleach, right before it got lost... just for snorts & giggles. Let me know if you want a wingman. Currently, I am in Merope.
 
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I still think we're on to something, if you go REALLY close to a star while in SC, you may find unique or super rare SWSignals. I'd like to see the screens you took. I think the INRA is preventing you from doing it hence the failure to upload haha.
 
I still think we're on to something, if you go REALLY close to a star while in SC, you may find unique or super rare SWSignals. I'd like to see the screens you took. I think the INRA is preventing you from doing it hence the failure to upload haha.

Yes, a screenie would be awesome!

This is starting to get interesting :)
 
How do we know the ships exploded?

Also, didn;t the Antares launch from Sirius? I would think teh Anatares is 1000 ly + away from its point of origin.


Lastly, I can join you if you want, but maybe we should retrace SS1 route to Azaleach, right before it got lost... just for snorts & giggles. Let me know if you want a wingman. Currently, I am in Merope.

I'm at merope too, searching for some wreckage but sill nothing for the moment. Of course you can add me ingame with the same nick' i have in the Forum :)
Retrace SS1 could be a good idea, expecialy for Azaleach. I've already scour a bit ( i insist on the "a bit") at Azaleach.
 
OK, so I finally had time to finish going through all 671 news articles from FFE. (Yes I even went through all of the personal ads at the end for the sake of completness :p) In order to post some of the interesting stuff I found I first need to explain a problem with FFE. Just to warn you I am probably going to make a few post and this will be quite long so you may want to get yourself some biscuits and tea. So it turns out FFE was not completed when the game was launched. They seem to have written all of the story but they were not able to finish all of the coding to make all of the story workable. The player was supposed to have a choice of 3 possible outcomes for the main story of FFE. Instead the player can only complete the game in one way.

The way FFE actually plays out: The player gets the Argent's Quest, goes and meets the Thargoids. The Thargoids then send the player to acquire the Mycoid virus cure. The player gets the cure gives it to the Thargoids and the Thargoids then thank the player and give the player a Thargoid ship as thanks. That's pretty much it. For a bit more detail you can read through all of the story missions here. (http://www.jades.org/missions.htm)

From here on out I will be refering to FFE articles by both "Title" and #number. You can go to this page (http://www.dream-ware.co.uk/first-encounters/journals/all/) as pointed out by Popov and use ctrl+f to search for the title. Or you can go here (http://www.jades.org/download.htm) and download the "Decoded Journal Text" which is a zip file that contains all of the FFE news articles as individual numbered text files. I've checked and the 2 list are in the same order and contain the same info. I just figure some people will prefer a link where as others might want the download.

How it was supposed to go:

Option 1: Starts somewhere around FFE article "NEW COMMANDER STEPS INTO TURNER'S SHOES" #396 and runs to "DANASLOVS ACCUSED OF FRAUD" #510. This is the most detailed and drawn out of the options and overlaps with how the game actually plays out with some important additions. First the player was supposed to become wanted by both the Feds and Imps after meeting with the Thargoids and was supposed to have several fights with the INRA. After the cure has been given to the Thargoid, Meredith Argent commissions another Quest class ship to go meet and negotiate with the Thargoids. The Feds and Imps then band together and declare war on both the Alliance (AIS) and the Thargoids. Then after the player uses their one Thargoid ship to defeat lots of ships from both navies and the INRA the Feds and Imps finally decide to negotiate. After negotiations are complete everyone ceases fighting and they all sign a peace treaty with the Thargoids.

Option 2: Starts at "AN END TO THE FUTURE?" #511 and runs to "NEW QUESTS TO BE BUILT FOR ARGENT" #533. In this option the player decides to help the INRA and instead of taking the cure for the Mycoid virus the player actually takes a modified version of the virus which kills off the Thargoids entirely. You are named a hero to the Feds and Imps but an enemy to the Alliance (AIS) and Meredith Argent commissions several more quest ships to try and hunt you down.

Option 3: Starts at "QUEST' STILL MISSING" #534 and runs to "ARGENT'S QUEST - DESTRUCTION IMMINENT" #543. In this option the player basically takes the quest and decides to do whatever they want rather than doing the Quest missions like they were supposed to. Also in this option Meredith Argent commissions more Quest class ships to try and hunt you down. There are more articles that seem to relate to this particular option but they seem to be kinda spread out so it's hard to give article names and numbers. It seems eventually the player is forced to return the Argents Quest to Meredith. After the ship is returned it seems the Alliance (AIS) is forced into a treaty that basically prevents them from attempting to find the Thargoids any time soon. One example is this article "WHITHER THE THARGOIDS NOW?" #563.

There are more articles than what I pointed out that relate to each option but there is some overlap and a bunch of jumping around, the articles I listed that are in sequence give enough info to give you a general idea of what is going on.

So after reading all of this I was left with a problem. How was I supposed to know what was actually lore in regards to ED. It's pretty obvious that options 2 didn't happen as the devs have stated that Thargoids are in ED. I was personally inclined to think that maybe they were using option 3 which left the Thargoids basically as they were at the beginning of FFE. Turns out they actually went with option 1. In my daily reading of the main UA thread I came across this post (https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=175726&page=566&p=2974474&viewfull=1#post2974474). Baelydon has a link in his post to the Fiction Diaries created by MB. I had never personally seen them and seeing as I am very much interested in ED lore I decided to take a look and discovered something interesting in Diary number #3.

Here is a link to the video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDurmITXzRM&feature=youtu.be&t=145). In this Fiction Diary MB gives a synopsis of the state of the Galaxy for ED. Starting at around 2:27 he very briefly mentions the Thargoids and states that the peace between us (humans) and the Thargoids was short lived. I would say this very much supports the fact that options 1 is what is being considered as actual lore. So I now have a pretty good idea as to which FFE articles are valid and which ones aren't. Of course all of this is just my hypothesis and any articles I link to need to be taken with a grain of salt. I'll be creating at least one more post with some of the interesting articles I noticed as I was reading through them.
 
Me likes them long posts. Awesome job!
I like that theory. In my version, the INRA used A.I and Thargoid technology to repeat history: force the Thargoids to appear so that we start a war - again, and throw our money at Core Dynamics and other big ships manufacturers. What's 1.5 called again?

I just don't want to believe Thargoids are bad guys, even if they kill me eventually.
 
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