UA Search re: Halsey, Galnet, Federation variables.

I've tried researching Daurtu Jet Comms (on Google) and drawn a blank. The SS1 search seems to be the first thing they have done that has been reported outside their home system. I suspect they are being used as a front for someone that doesn't want their involvment known. Since Halsey is known to have met with Mahon before the accident perhaps he is sponsoring the search through DJC?
 
It's an interesting angle to investigate, he has been suspiciously quiet about the meeting as far as I know and has said nothing regarding this renewed search. Maybe he is pushing for it behind the scenes.
 
An interesting extra tidbit about the two factions searching for SS1. Read it and make your own tinfoil conclusions...

From newsletter 109:

Federal President Zachary Hudson has announced his intention to resume the search for Starship One, which disappeared en route to the Azaleach system in May 3301. A previous investigation into the ship’s disappearance was conducted, but the fate of the vessel and her crew, which included then-president Jasmina Halsey, could not be conclusively determined. The president made the following statement during a fund raising event held by Sirius Corp:
“Like many others, I was heartened by the Sirius Corporation’s success, and I found myself thinking that if the remains of a ship lost fifty years ago could be found, surely a ship lost less than a year ago could also be recovered. I am therefore offering generous reimbursements to pilots who deliver wreckage components to the Federal research outpost at Leoniceno Orbital in the Azaleach system. Once we have gathered enough material, we will analyse the debris to determine if any of it is from Starship One.”
But it appears President Hudson is not the only person eager to find the ship. In a strange turn of events, an organisation by the name of Daurtu Jet Comms PLC has also announced its intention to search for the missing presidential vessel. Virtually nothing is known about the organisation, but the fact that it is offering even larger rewards than the Federation may convince pilots to lend the company their support.
 
On anoher note that I forgot to add. When I first arrived in Daurtu there was a local news bulletin talking about how the citizens of Daurtu were enjoying a boost to their economy thanks to Panshin terminal recently becoming a central trade hub. Now the article has been removed, not sure if this is because it's the start of a new month? There are still local bulletins in Varati from November last year I think. But it was certainly there before. I was thinking more on this article last night and it occurred to me that we could potentially be nothing more than the victims of a cynical local government campaign to boost a flagging economy by cashing in on a tragedy.
Probably one of the least likely theories I'm aware, just looking for all the possible angle DJC could be approaching this from.
 
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On anoher note that I forgot to add. When I first arrived in Daurtu there was a local news bulletin talking about how the citizens of Daurtu were enjoying a boost to their economy thanks to Panshin terminal recently becoming a central trade hub. Now the article has been removed, not sure if this is because it's the start of a new month? There are still local bulletins in Varati from November last year I think. But it was certainly there before. I was thinking more on this article last night and it occurred to me that we could potentially be nothing more than the victims of a cynical local government campaign to boost a flagging economy by cashing in on a tragedy.
Probably one of the least likely theories I'm aware, just looking for all the possible angle DJC could be approaching this from.

Yesterday's patch included a change which deletes local news older than 30 days. A news item about a boom in early December is no longer showing in my home station.

IIRC both SS1 CG locations had news items reporting booms and another that Salvagable Wreckage was downtrending at the weekend. I think that's just the usual reaction of the BGS to a CG in system.
 
Yesterday's patch included a change which deletes local news older than 30 days. A news item about a boom in early December is no longer showing in my home station.

IIRC both SS1 CG locations had news items reporting booms and another that Salvagable Wreckage was downtrending at the weekend. I think that's just the usual reaction of the BGS to a CG in system.

Ya i really wish the patches would not wipe the local news threads all the time.. so much gets lost
 
Yesterday's patch included a change which deletes local news older than 30 days. A news item about a boom in early December is no longer showing in my home station.

IIRC both SS1 CG locations had news items reporting booms and another that Salvagable Wreckage was downtrending at the weekend. I think that's just the usual reaction of the BGS to a CG in system.

strange that the Varati ones are still there, I checked a few moments ago and the ones from last year are still accessible. Perhaps because they were player submitted?
 
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strange that the Varati ones are still there, I checked a few moments ago and the ones from last year are still accessible. Perhaps because they were player submitted?

interesting ! Ya i was going on past experience of hunting local news ... they usually seemed to be wiped by server updates.
 
Follow up Investigation

A little follow up to the news article. I noticed today when I was in Panshin Terminal that three separate news articles had been published, not all visible at the same time, but alternating.
All three talk about a significant drop in economic conditions in Panshin?Daurtu with emphasis on laying the blame at DJC, one states that DJC has unspecified plans to rejuvenate the system.

here are the screenies

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What I find most interesting is the last article which talks about DJC being an administration that no one seems to trust and the admonishment at the end to stay tuned.

Recalling what Irongut said about both systems having similar new items at the beginning of the CG I decided to take a trip to Azaleach to see if they were experiencing a similar economic downturn, but aside from seeing their cg mere millimetres from the final tier, there was only one news item, this one regarding a sudden outbreak of war.

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it seems odd to me that Daurtu would go from reporting thriving economic conditions to mass unemployment and poverty within the last few days, especially with the influx of trade one would expect from being a major hub in a large scale salvage operation.
I begin to wonder if this CG isn't the last time we'll have dealings with DJC
 
it seems odd to me that Daurtu would go from reporting thriving economic conditions to mass unemployment and poverty within the last few days, especially with the influx of trade one would expect from being a major hub in a large scale salvage operation.
I begin to wonder if this CG isn't the last time we'll have dealings with DJC

Remember that the patch removed stories older than 30 days so that Boom started at least 30 days ago, possibly many more than that. Without knowing the date on those stories it is impossible to say when. The maximum length for a Boom is 28 days so it may have been over a few days ago or months ago.

Unfortunately I don't have any examples of BGS Bust state stories to compare with, my home system has been going through repeated Booms recently. It is normal for an automated story to appear from different sources and with slightly different text like that though. I saw a Boom story change source in front of my eyes while looking at the services window recently.

From the BGS guide thread:
Bust: Bust is essentially the opposite of boom and "Seeking goods" sites for bust may pop up. Piracy increases bust, while exploration decreases it. Delivering to any seeking goods sites should help end the state.

Bust has a two day countdown before it activates then a 3 - 28 day duration (just like Boom). So based on the date of the Bust stories, conditions in Daurtu at the end of January have caused. As I understand it piracy, trading goods not in demand (or doing trade missions for them) and failing trade missions can cause Bust.

CGs can play havok on the BGS, in the past trade CGs have destroyed a faction's reputation but FD usually put blocks in place to stop that now. This CG involves selling stolen goods which is known to decrease a faction's influence and if they were not in demand could cause a Bust. We should definitely keep an eye on Daurtu and DJC but I don't think BGS states are particularly important here.
 
Remember that the patch removed stories older than 30 days so that Boom started at least 30 days ago, possibly many more than that. Without knowing the date on those stories it is impossible to say when. The maximum length for a Boom is 28 days so it may have been over a few days ago or months ago.

Unfortunately I don't have any examples of BGS Bust state stories to compare with, my home system has been going through repeated Booms recently. It is normal for an automated story to appear from different sources and with slightly different text like that though. I saw a Boom story change source in front of my eyes while looking at the services window recently.

From the BGS guide thread:


Bust has a two day countdown before it activates then a 3 - 28 day duration (just like Boom). So based on the date of the Bust stories, conditions in Daurtu at the end of January have caused. As I understand it piracy, trading goods not in demand (or doing trade missions for them) and failing trade missions can cause Bust.

CGs can play havok on the BGS, in the past trade CGs have destroyed a faction's reputation but FD usually put blocks in place to stop that now. This CG involves selling stolen goods which is known to decrease a faction's influence and if they were not in demand could cause a Bust. We should definitely keep an eye on Daurtu and DJC but I don't think BGS states are particularly important here.

ah ok, never seen multiple stories before so it seemed unusual to me especially given the current story, tied with some of the wording of the articles conflated it in my head. Good job this tinfoil is one size fits all. Out of rep to give so have a salute for the speedy, well explained response. o7
and an extra biscuit if you like.
 
Galactic News: Federation Begins Analysing Wreckage

Over the past week, hundreds of pilots have been searching for signs of Starship One, the Federal presidential vessel that disappeared in May 3301. Two factions had a stake in the search – the Azaleach Partnership, which was acting on behalf of Federal President Zachary Hudson, and the Daurtu Jet Comms PLC, an organisation about which very little is known.

Today, the Federation announced it had received a sizeable quantity of debris. In a statement, President Hudson expressed his satisfaction at the outcome:

"I would like to thank the galactic community for its enthusiastic participation in the search for Starship One. Thousands of tonnes of debris have been delivered to the Federal research outpost at Leoniceno Orbital, which we will now subject to comprehensive spectral analysis. As for Daurtu Jet Comms PLC, I do not know what interest it has in Starship One, but I would remind them that the Federation takes a dim view of those who meddle in its affairs."

Although Daurtu Jet Comms PLC offered larger rewards for wreckage than the Federation, it is understood to have received only a modest amount of space-borne debris. Given the failure of the organisation's appeal, we may never know why Daurtu Jet Comms PLC was looking for the lost presidential ship.

DJC's appeal was at tier 4 last time I looked which doesn't sound like failed to me but presumably FD made this a Feds vs Indy goal so whoever got higher wins. :( I'd still like to hear from both organisations but at least we should get an announcement from Hudson soon. Whether we believe him or not is another matter.
 
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DJC's appeal was at tier 4 last time I looked which doesn't sound like failed to me but presumably FD made this a Feds vs Indy goal so whoever got higher wins. :( I'd still like to hear from both organisations but at least we should get an announcement from Hudson soon. Whether we believe him or not is another matter.


I doubt I'll believe anything he says but as long as he says ALOT of something thats okay. If he doesn't I'm going to ineffectually shake my fist and yell at the computer... maybe even going as far as trying to submit a galnet article demanding/asking for more info.
 
Federation Report: https://community.elitedangerous.com/galnet/uid/56c1a75d9657ba6573fb9f0b

Despite examining every piece of available evidence, investigators could not find any proof that the ship was sabotaged. They ultimately concluded that the ship's destruction was the result of a complex, multi-stage engine failure.

And so we get the cover up we expected from Hudson. I would have liked to see the report from DJC but apparently that will not happen now. :(
 
Not surprising indeed. Sorry I've been away, I'm mostly lurking now but I'll try to catch up asap!

Ok, I've read the galnet articles so many times I can directly see copy/pasta. Have a look at this:

Galactic News: Starship One Destruction Linked to Mechanical Failure - 15 FEB 3302

A Federal investigation team has released the results of an official inquiry into the destruction of Starship One. The 600,000-word report confirms that the abnormal energy signature detected just before the ship made its last jump was almost certainly caused by mechanical failure. The report goes on to assert that the failure began with a power surge in the ship's central power plant – a relatively common occurrence in a high-capacity hydrogen reactor – which overloaded several other core systems.

Despite examining every piece of available evidence, investigators could not find any proof that the ship was sabotaged. They ultimately concluded that the ship's destruction was the result of a complex, multi-stage engine failure.

The Loss of Starship One Linked to Mechanical Failure - 02 JUN 3301

The Federal Navy has today released its official report into the disappearance of Starship One. As expected, the 600,000 word document provides a detailed analysis of the inner workings of Starship One.

The report confirms that the abnormal energy signature detected by Guardian Wing Alpha, immediately prior to Starship One’s last known jump, was almost certainly caused by mechanical failure. The report includes an in depth comparison with the failure of the Highliner Antares and concludes there were remarkable similarities in the unusual failure mode, and it is still unclear why the automatic shutdown systems did not operate (most of which were not present on the Antares). The failure began with a power surge in the central power plant – something not especially unusual in a high capacity hydrogen reactor – causing several other core systems to overload.

Despite going over hours of evidence, including video feeds detailing the last several days of life aboard all four ships of Starflight One, investigators were not able to identify any signs of foul play. In the end, the team has concluded that the cause of Starship One’s loss was a complex multi-stage engine failure.

In bold identical/similar sentences. It's probably been done before, in which case I'm sorry.

I'll just state: DON'T TAKE ME FOR A FOOL!

What I want is not a 600k word document of technical p on SS1, I want to know everything there is to know about Flight Engineer Nick Baron. What he liked, what he didn't like, his favourite song, if he had a girlfriend/boyfriend, his professional background and most importantly WHY HE RECEIVED MONEY FROM GEORGE FALLSIDE.
 
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What I want is not a 600k word document of technical p on SS1, I want to know everything there is to know about Flight Engineer Nick Baron. What he liked, what he didn't like, his favourite song, if he had a girlfriend/boyfriend, his professional background and most importantly WHY HE RECEIVED MONEY FROM GEORGE FALLSIDE.

Agreed. That payment sounds like 'signs of foul play' to me.

The almost identical wording of both reports leads me to believe that the same group is behind both cover ups and presumably both accidents. After we eventually discover the fate of Prof. Palin will we see the same hand acting behind the scenes?
 
Agreed. That payment sounds like 'signs of foul play' to me.

The almost identical wording of both reports leads me to believe that the same group is behind both cover ups and presumably both accidents. After we eventually discover the fate of Prof. Palin will we see the same hand acting behind the scenes?

Palin was just unlucky, he had a complex multi-stage engine failure.

Edit: Read this story if you want to know how to do this type of sabotage: http://www.dream-ware.co.uk/first-e...-of-life-on-the-frontier/a-business-proposal/
 
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Not surprising indeed. Sorry I've been away, I'm mostly lurking now but I'll try to catch up asap!

Ok, I've read the galnet articles so many times I can directly see copy/pasta. Have a look at this:





In bold identical/similar sentences. It's probably been done before, in which case I'm sorry.

I'll just state: DON'T TAKE ME FOR A FOOL!

What I want is not a 600k word document of technical p on SS1, I want to know everything there is to know about Flight Engineer Nick Baron. What he liked, what he didn't like, his favourite song, if he had a girlfriend/boyfriend, his professional background and most importantly WHY HE RECEIVED MONEY FROM GEORGE FALLSIDE.

We need a galnet article calling them out on this now! Pop, the honor is yours if you want to submit an article. If you don't want to type one up I'll put one together and give you credit/final say on what I type. Someone need to publically call the feds out on this, if we don't it's going to get burried.

Side note I'm sure lord zoltan would also help but I think he mentioned being out of town until Friday.
 
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