UAs, Barnacles & other mysteries Thread 7 - The Canonn

Ozric · Jul 24, 2016

Kaltern said:
I feel like probably a lot on here thinking 'too obscure, need more in-game clues'.

If a puzzle is too obscure, interest will wane. It happened with the barnacles, and it'll happen here.

Yep 7 threads and around 63,000 posts agree with you.

On an related note, we're getting close to critical mass on this thread and Riz is on holiday...

CookieJarviz · Jul 24, 2016

Turd Ferguson said:
...for all the pi theorists -

3.412 is NOT pi. 3.142 is the decimal approximation of pi. pi is actually 22/7. If thus message was about pi it would represent it as the ratio 22/7 rather than 3.142 which is "about" pi.

in a lot if calculations (especially ones done on a planetary of galactic scale) using 3.142 intead of the actual pi ratio would introduce WAY too much error.

therefore I dont think its pi.

Who fed you that load? Pi is 3.14159265359

Allant Doran · Jul 24, 2016

Kaltern said:
I feel like probably a lot on here thinking 'too obscure, need more in-game clues'.

If a puzzle is too obscure, interest will wane. It happened with the barnacles, and it'll happen here.

Yeah but the barnacles WERE found, meaning those who stuck with it felt rewarded.

Nobody ever said interest had to maintain for 98% of all those involved over this puzzle. It will still get cracked by the people who care deeply.

I do HOPE that everyone remains interested but it certainly isn't required for a solution to appear.

sernana · Jul 24, 2016

Colonel Kenney said:
The front was going at 140? Exactly? Can you provide a screen shot from your cockpit?

Also that would be backward because the coords are all backward - the real direction is around 320

" the coords are all backward" ... what is this referring to? cheers

HailVectron · Jul 24, 2016

Turd Ferguson said:
...for all the pi theorists -

3.412 is NOT pi. 3.142 is the decimal approximation of pi. pi is actually 22/7. If thus message was about pi it would represent it as the ratio 22/7 rather than 3.142 which is "about" pi.

in a lot if calculations (especially ones done on a planetary of galactic scale) using 3.142 intead of the actual pi ratio would introduce WAY too much error.

therefore I dont think its pi.

Um. 22/7 is closer to 3.143 actually

1adog1 · Jul 24, 2016

I've already tried wrapping the image around a sphere, cylinder, and cube in blender. Nothing really pops out.

walaykin · Jul 24, 2016

Turd Ferguson said:
pi is actually 22/7

You're going to get a lot of replies here but... no. Pi is not 22/7. That fraction is convenient approximation for mental arithmetic. Sorry.

Turd Ferguson · Jul 24, 2016

xuly said:
lolwhat

well...its not 22/7 either but its closer to the actual value. the point is 3.142 is not pi...its "about" pi.

Colonel Kenney · Jul 24, 2016

Better one

Cynaqq · Jul 24, 2016

CookieJarviz said:
Who fed you that load? Pi is 3.14159265359

It's actually 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091715364367892590360011330530548820466521384146951941511609... and goes ad infinitum as far as we know.

Turd Ferguson · Jul 24, 2016

walaykin said:
You're going to get a lot of replies here but... no. Pi is not 22/7. That fraction is convenient approximation for mental arithmetic. Sorry.

you're right. bad wording the point is 3.142 is not pi. so the "binary" code cant be pi.

Cynaqq · Jul 24, 2016

BTW, sad to say but the weekend came to an end and my 'Miller Indices' theory didn't come to fruition. I couldn't find a way to define the base lattice to fiddle with the indexing on.

DirkLarien · Jul 24, 2016

Turd Ferguson said:
...for all the pi theorists -

3.412 is NOT pi. 3.142 is the decimal approximation of pi. pi is actually 22/7. If thus message was about pi it would represent it as the ratio 22/7 rather than 3.142 which is "about" pi.

in a lot if calculations (especially ones done on a planetary of galactic scale) using 3.142 intead of the actual pi ratio would introduce WAY too much error.

therefore I dont think its pi.

You do realize that game is done by people for the people ?
You do realize that last time we got morse code ? (since when do aliens know morse code ? since when they know alphabet that is used in our languages ?)

I think people are projecting what they want it to be.

We all would love to see this to be really complex and awesome, but i highly doubt it will be.
Our imagination will always be better.

Remember we are looking at man made mystery. And the guys who made it are game devs not mathematicians nor astrophysicists. They might be good in it but they arent. Some of you might be lot more skilled to solve such mysteries then them.
And this is game for lot of different kinds of people. (they will most likely use something that can be figured out by somewhat ordinary person.... just from the business standpoint)
;-)

Colonel Kenney · Jul 24, 2016

Ozric said:
Yep 7 threads and around 63,000 posts agree with you.

On an related note, we're getting close to critical mass on this thread and Riz is on holiday...

Interest is waning for sure, they may need to filter more clues via proxy to keep this moving.

"a key" was a good clue though because it implies there are others out there to find.

Ozric · Jul 24, 2016

Cynaqq said:
BTW, sad to say but the weekend came to an end and my 'Miller Indices' theory didn't come to fruition. I couldn't find a way to define the base lattice to fiddle with the indexing on.

Alas

DirkLarien said:
You do realize that last time we got morse code ? (since when do aliens know morse code ? since when they know alphabet that is used in our languages ?)

Who said it's aliens?

Colonel Kenney said:
Interest is waning for sure, they may need to filter more clues via proxy to keep this moving.

"a key" was a good clue though because it implies there are others out there to find.

The current swell of interest is waning and we can get back to actually being able to read the threads.

Raisa · Jul 24, 2016

The image is all we got and that is it. Just wait till the new patch and then for 2.2

Unless Michael Brooks will come here and tell me that i am wrong

LordZoltan · Jul 24, 2016

Jack Dinn said:
I'm not an expert on this kind of steganography, but I'd imagine the reason why the Aperture image is clearer is illusory. It's a realist image, so we're mentally more forgiving in interpreting it. The UP image is an abstract, so the noise leaps out at us much more. Further, a fair amount of that noise has, it seems, been deliberately added. FD wanted a noisy image.

I believe it was also an SSTV image - not a spectrogram, no?

Omgzzwtf · Jul 24, 2016

DirkLarien said:
I got a idea:

step one = 3 - honk something perhaps with the probe or artefact or both?
step two = 1 - aim exactly in the center
step three = 4 - it will ignite (start changing)
step four = 2 - it will shine / change / become habitable / produce bananas

This makes about as much as sense as the underpants gnomes economics strategy.

Step 1: Collect Underpants

Step 2: ???

Step 3: PROFIT!

LordZoltan · Jul 24, 2016

Bungalo said:
And, strangely enough, they both work together and serve different functions. Having one and not the other leaves us poorer. The thread is a wonderful way to keep the door open and to compile results (Thanks to Riz's hard work). The discord is good to talk out theories and hash things out, not to mention meet up with people to raid convoys!

Very true

xcyber · Jul 24, 2016

Hi guys. I reupload audio to http://www.filedropper.com/showdownload.php/mixdown2 (mp3), and still thinks someone talking in background. If you cant hear it first time, try to loop file. For example in my interpretation I hear russian "11 151 Freya" (frey). Voice starts from left channel and pan to center.