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Ungulate Talk
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Southern Pudu
If we didn't get any more Latin American ungulates, I'd be ok with that even though I want more. I mean we have all the basics pretty much: Tapir, Peccary and not one but two camelids (even if they are domestic). And even if they aren't ungulates you can toss in the capybara and anteater as other large docile animals that commonly get mixed with them. Really the biggest gaps in this area aren't true ungulates but animals like the rhea.
With all that being said if we had extended support I'd like to see more, particularly I would want to see the wild camelids make it in as even though I can live with using the llama and alpaca as substitutes it would be nice to have the "proper" versions. Deer are the only group really missing and its not one I'm too bothered about since they are basically absent from zoos outside of their native ranges, I'd only like to see white-tailed deer because of the versatility or the pudu because more small ungulates is always great. I'm also open to the idea of a second peccary for variety sake just because I quite like them. As for the lowland tapir? Eh, I've grown to be more than fine with the Baird's but if we did get it I'd be pleased and probably end up using it more.
Anyway if I had to pick one SA ungulate to add I would pick the guanaco because Patagonia needs all the rep it can get.
With all that being said if we had extended support I'd like to see more, particularly I would want to see the wild camelids make it in as even though I can live with using the llama and alpaca as substitutes it would be nice to have the "proper" versions. Deer are the only group really missing and its not one I'm too bothered about since they are basically absent from zoos outside of their native ranges, I'd only like to see white-tailed deer because of the versatility or the pudu because more small ungulates is always great. I'm also open to the idea of a second peccary for variety sake just because I quite like them. As for the lowland tapir? Eh, I've grown to be more than fine with the Baird's but if we did get it I'd be pleased and probably end up using it more.
Anyway if I had to pick one SA ungulate to add I would pick the guanaco because Patagonia needs all the rep it can get.
Ungulates dont really feature heavily in ideas for SA/LATAM packs, which isnt really suprising for multiple reasons.
1. We have the majority of the prominent ones already in game
2. Most of the possible future inclusions are pretty similar to exisiting animals (lowland tapir, chacoan peccary, guanaco), so desire for these is generally lower
3. South america isnt particularly rich in ungulates in the first place in contrast to something like africa where they have a very strong presence both in nature and zoos.
Still, i think it would be foolish to expect a pack focused on south america to skip over ungulates completely. So i think atleast one being there is pretty much inevitable, and atleast two is probably more than likely. If i had to make a guess its gonna be the pudu and either lowland tapir or one of the camelids
1. We have the majority of the prominent ones already in game
2. Most of the possible future inclusions are pretty similar to exisiting animals (lowland tapir, chacoan peccary, guanaco), so desire for these is generally lower
3. South america isnt particularly rich in ungulates in the first place in contrast to something like africa where they have a very strong presence both in nature and zoos.
Still, i think it would be foolish to expect a pack focused on south america to skip over ungulates completely. So i think atleast one being there is pretty much inevitable, and atleast two is probably more than likely. If i had to make a guess its gonna be the pudu and either lowland tapir or one of the camelids
Idk I think if it is Latin America then no ungulates is more likely. I could definitely see one being added though
I have been to a good number of zoos where they might have a Latin America section and no ungulates. And as @Marvinb said most of the big ticket ungulates are already in game. Not to mention the big draw of South America are the birds, monkeys, fish, reptiles, amphibians, invertebrates. All of the major megafauna outside of a few are already in game.
I still think it would be good to get at least one to two ungulates in the next pack. Personally if it had to be a Central to South America ungulate I would want a pudu or the tapir. I’ll admit I’m partial to a new tapir species.
I would be shocked if there isnt any tbh. I guess we have to wait and see
Maybe the agouti/mara could take the ungulate spot. I know they are rodents and not ungulates, but they kind of look "similar" to ungulates in the sense of being terrestrial herbivores (you know what I mean).
I think South America could use a couple deer species to round things out. There's a fair number of options too:
- "Large Deer" - White-Tailed Deer, Marsh Deer, Southern Huemul, Pampas Deer
- "Small Deer" - Southern Pudu, Gray Brocket, Amazon Brown Brocket, American Red Brocket
I would absolutelly be on board for a South american deer or the Brazilian tapir for a potential Latin America, however i'm still more interested in other animals, for example, i woud much prefer that frontier use the effort to make an Marsh deer on the greather rhea, red legged seriema or red footed tortoise.
in other words i woudn't mind another ungulate, but if i could make a chooice i would pick something else.
in other words i woudn't mind another ungulate, but if i could make a chooice i would pick something else.
Which tbh would still be two fine choices.
The pudu is a genuinly great animal to have to expand on the small ungulate roster and represent the temperate region of south america, while both brazillian tapir and a wild camelid are not just very common zoo animals but both got their own little upsides , most importantly the cool wild vs domesticated dynamic for the camlids and the tapir could hopefully bring a diving update for the tapirs, which would be pretty neat. Is that cooler then a monkey? No but it defenetly does elevate them above filler carnivoran tier like bush dogs. The pack most likly would be in best case 3 slots for monkeys or birds, 2 carnivorans and 2 ungulates so something like coati, ocelot, pudu and either guanaco/vicunja or brazillian tapir would be a decent roster for those fillers, aslong as the 3 other picks slap
I just noticed that theres no Mara in this pack and while i dislike that it does feel like what frontier would do sadly
What I want: Southern pudu
What I think we'll get: elk (wapiti)
Huemul is a really cool pick that isn't talked about much
So your vote is elk?
Yes
Well in an ideal world a latin America pack won't contain a single ungulate although I think we might end up getting the Southern Pudu
2 to 3 species:
Cold:Musk ox/Kiang
Temperate: PD deer/Sika deer
Subtropics:Tufted deer/Muntjac
Savanna:Blackbuck/Gaint eland
Tropical:Gaur/Lowland anoa
Cold:Musk ox/Kiang
Temperate: PD deer/Sika deer
Subtropics:Tufted deer/Muntjac
Savanna:Blackbuck/Gaint eland
Tropical:Gaur/Lowland anoa
If you had to pick one what would your vote go to for most likely to appear in the next pack?
